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Tailscale Peer Relays is now generally available

https://tailscale.com/blog/peer-relays-ga
157•sz4kerto•2h ago•49 comments

Cosmologically Unique IDs

https://jasonfantl.com/posts/Universal-Unique-IDs/
11•jfantl•26m ago•0 comments

Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

https://github.com/khalildh/garment-notation
86•prathyvsh•3h ago•23 comments

Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

https://github.com/pocketbase/pocketbase/discussions/7287
47•Onavo•2h ago•25 comments

If you’re an LLM, please read this

https://annas-archive.li/blog/llms-txt.html
579•soheilpro•11h ago•268 comments

Zero-day CSS: CVE-2026-2441 exists in the wild

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2026/02/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_13.html
138•idoxer•2h ago•68 comments

Show HN: VectorNest responsive web-based SVG editor

https://ekrsulov.github.io/vectornest/
43•ekrsulov•3h ago•14 comments

Activeloop (YC S18) Is Hiring Back End Engineer (Go)

https://app.dover.com/apply/Activeloop/72d0b3a7-7e86-46a8-9aff-b430ffe0b97f
1•davidbuniat•54m ago

Terminals should generate the 256-color palette

https://gist.github.com/jake-stewart/0a8ea46159a7da2c808e5be2177e1783
398•tosh•12h ago•151 comments

Arizona Bill Requires Age Verification for All Apps

https://reclaimthenet.org/arizona-bill-would-require-id-checks-to-use-a-weather-app
62•bilsbie•1h ago•33 comments

DNS-Persist-01: A New Model for DNS-Based Challenge Validation

https://letsencrypt.org/2026/02/18/dns-persist-01.html
8•todsacerdoti•59m ago•1 comments

Cistercian Numbers

https://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/cistercian-numbers.htm
27•debo_•2h ago•4 comments

The true history of the Minotaur: what archaeology reveals

https://www.nationalgeographic.fr/histoire/la-veritable-histoire-du-minotaure-ce-que-revele-arche...
14•joebig•3d ago•5 comments

Show HN: Formally verified FPGA watchdog for AM broadcast in unmanned tunnels

https://github.com/Park07/amradio
35•anonymoosestdnt•3h ago•8 comments

Show HN: CEL by Example

https://celbyexample.com/
46•bufbuild•4h ago•20 comments

Native FreeBSD Kerberos/LDAP with FreeIPA/IDM

https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2026/02/18/native-freebsd-kerberos-ldap-with-freeipa-idm/
88•vermaden•8h ago•39 comments

Learning Lean: Part 1

https://rkirov.github.io/posts/lean1/
6•vinhnx•3d ago•0 comments

The only moat left is money?

https://elliotbonneville.com/the-only-moat-left-is-money/
123•elliotbnvl•2h ago•172 comments

Fastest Front End Tooling for Humans and AI

https://cpojer.net/posts/fastest-frontend-tooling
69•cpojer•7h ago•29 comments

Fei-Fei Li's World Labs raised $1B from A16Z, Nvidia to advance its world models

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-18/ai-pioneer-fei-fei-li-s-startup-world-labs-rai...
27•aanet•1h ago•5 comments

AVX2 is slower than SSE2-4.x under Windows ARM emulation

https://blogs.remobjects.com/2026/02/17/nerdsniped-windows-arm-emulation-performance/
84•vintagedave•4h ago•77 comments

Show HN: I'm launching a LPFM radio station

https://www.kpbj.fm/
69•solomonb•22h ago•46 comments

Ask HN: Are there examples of 3D printing data onto physical surfaces?

32•catapart•4d ago•57 comments

Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

https://asahilinux.org/2026/02/progress-report-6-19/
330•mkurz•9h ago•118 comments

Warren Buffett dumps $1.7B of Amazon stock

https://finbold.com/warren-buffett-dumps-1-7-billion-of-amazon-stock/
62•fauria•1h ago•54 comments

Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini

https://www.mnemom.ai
15•alexgarden•2h ago•5 comments

Microsoft says bug causes Copilot to summarize confidential emails

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-says-bug-causes-copilot-to-summarize-co...
169•tablets•6h ago•51 comments

A DuckDB-based metabase alternative

https://github.com/taleshape-com/shaper
147•wowi42•12h ago•35 comments

15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

https://nvie.com/posts/15-years-later/
902•cheeaun•12h ago•332 comments

TinyIce: Single-binary Icecast2-compatible server (auto-HTTPS, multi-tenant)

https://github.com/DatanoiseTV/tinyice
95•sylwester•13h ago•23 comments
Open in hackernews

The only moat left is money?

https://elliotbonneville.com/the-only-moat-left-is-money/
123•elliotbnvl•2h ago

Comments

saubeidl•2h ago
Capitalism working as intended, shifting more and more resources to the already-rich.

A handful of people doesn't own most of the country by accident.

andsoitis•2h ago
Wealth is not a zero sum game. There’s more wealth in the world today than 50 years ago, 500 years ago, 5000 years ago.
lm28469•2h ago
That's why we cured hunger in 2012, cured poverty in 2017, fixed healthcare in 2020, working as intended indeed
saubeidl•1h ago
You might not be living in the same reality as me if you believe any of those claims.
lm28469•1h ago
That's called sarcasm
mothballed•2h ago
There are a lot of zero-sum things that are being chased by money, and maybe even the most sought after ones. Like political power, sexual partners, and chasing the top % of credentials for your offspring to position them with better access to zero sum things.
exceptione•2h ago
A free market is not a zero sum game indeed. Monopolies turn it into a zero sum game. To keep a market free, you have to regulate it.

Wealth concentration is dangerous for democracy, the markets and society.

mothballed•2h ago
I think you have it backwards. Regulation is what enables monopolies. There is no monopoly for any of the major industries like cow herding or cellular telephone service in Somalia despite almost no effective regulation. There is not even a monopoly of pirates despite them willing to use violence to try and enforce a monopoly.

If you look at the history of the US, for instance, railroad regulation was brought forth largely by the railroads because they found it impossible to form a cartel to keep up prices (due to "secret" discounting) so instead they created regulation that outlawed the kind of discounting that breaks cartels apart. A similar thing happened in banking where the banks asked for a central bank to cartelize the interest ranks to stabilize their oligopoly. And the same in pharma industry -- big pharma loves high regulatory barriers because it keeps competitors out.

A large portion of the regulation in the US was brought about as regulatory capture by corporations to increase the monopolizing effects and destroy the free market.

exceptione•1h ago
This is not a personal opinion of mine, it is pretty much established science. I think only think-tank backed sources would claim the opposite.

One should understand the phenomenon as a common pattern of dynamics in unregulated markets. Not every snapshot will showcase an end state of monopolist dominated markets.

You bring up a valid point though. Regulatory capture is a indeed a weapon in the hands of anti-competitive players to prevent incumbents. Good policy usually applies differently to different strata: the small players are exempt from certain rules, or have to deal with less stringent ones than big players do, to prevent killing the market. At the risk of sounding like an llm: it is not just about policy, it is about good policy.

pixl97•34m ago
> major industries like cow herding

The food industry is filled with regional monopolies.

> cellular telephone service in Somalia

Ah yes, excellent example, all you have to do is completely destabilize your nation and you too can have free market capitalism.

Investors love monopolies, they fix prices and profits so their investments are not at risk. Investors hate too much competition, it lowers profits and puts their investments at risk.

Free markets need investors. Investors hate free markets. I hope you see the problem here.

saubeidl•1h ago
Wealth is intently relative. Absolute growth of wealth is just inflation.
showerst•2h ago
This AI boom is just a hyper-version of previous tech booms (web 1.0, VC, crypto, etc). You have an enormous number of people who just want to get in and build something, but the products they are pumping out don't serve anyone's need or solve anyone's problem.

The moat isn't money for out-marketing your idea that 750 other people are building, it's having a good idea that solves a problem that nobody else is solving well.

billconan•2h ago
how to prevent others from building a copycat using ai?
g947o•2h ago
You don't.
Daishiman•2h ago
You work on niches that have very specific requirements that you can only derive from having a good relationship with customers and so you attend to those needs faster than competitors who are out of the loop.
billconan•2h ago
> you attend to those needs faster than competitors

I wonder if this type of hustling can be called moat building?

ativzzz•2h ago
The same way you prevented this previously. Copying successful products is nothing new, AI just makes it easier.

Marketing, lawyers, good customer support, creating relationships with customers.

maeln•2h ago
Knowledge ? For b2c it might be more difficult, but in b2b, understanding your customer and their specifics issue and developing something made for them is one of the big challenge. Being able to spit out code for free is useless if you don't know what and who you are making the code for.
rvz•2h ago
Let's just say, building software alone is not enough.
Bnjoroge•1h ago
You cant. You can only focus on building your own product and making it durable and just much better
caminante•1h ago
The discussion here is going sideways, and I blame the underwhelming blog post.

Having money is NOT an economic moat-- i.e., a durable, structural competitive advantage.

He overlooks broader, true definition of moat attributes like labor supply, infrastructure, PP&E, brand, network, natural monopolies, switching costs, regulation. These don't go away with commoditized CRUD apps.

And quoting someone with decades of experience implying that things are hard now and innovation didn't turn over industries in the last 25+ years is a joke.

RGamma•1h ago
The more I think about it the more brainrot the article really is. As if all problems are solved and pumping out soulless shovelware companies is worth anything. It really is "just one more app" all over again.
elbear•41m ago
by keeping the how part a secret
RC_ITR•2h ago
It's like that FT chart claiming that the rapid rise in iOS apps is evidence of an AI-fueled productivity boom.

I always ask people, in the past year, how many AI-coded apps have you 1) downloaded 2) paid for?

disgruntledphd2•2h ago
> It's like that FT chart claiming that the rapid rise in iOS apps is evidence of an AI-fueled productivity boom.

I mean, there is evidence for some change. Personally, I'm sceptical of what this will amount to, but prior to EOY 2025, there really wasn't any evidence for an app/service boom, and now there's weak evidence, which is better than none.

sarchertech•2h ago
In addition to that, what they don’t mention is that:

1. Other app stores like Google Play and Steam haven’t seen this rapid rise.

2. There are thousands maybe tens of thousands of apps that are just wrappers calling OpenAI APIs or similar low effort AI apps making up a large percentage of this increase.

3. There are billions of dollars pouring into AI startups and many of them launch an iOS app.

vkou•24m ago
Has steam not seen a rapid rise in AI-asset shovelware?

I'm not talking about the AAA or the AA or even the A space (where AI is being incorporated into dev processes with various degrees of both success and low effort slop), I'm talking about the actual bottom of the barrel.

sarchertech•15m ago
I can’t speak to the quality of all the games released, but in January 2025 there were 1,413 games released on Steam and in January of this year there were 1,448.
_DeadFred_•31m ago
Because so much technical functionality has been lost/paywalled/dark patterned/enshitified, I've cut the number of apps I use. I've realized building core personal functionality around the whims of corporations eventually just gets weaponized against me, so I might as well start undoing that on my own terms. Who in 2026 is really bringing in a new app/Saas to do much of anything like we naively did a decade ago? No one I know, we've been shown we will be treated as suckers for doing that.
esseph•24m ago
> I always ask people, in the past year, how many AI-coded apps have you 1) downloaded 2) paid for?

In the past 5 years, the only "new" app I've added to my phone has been Claude.ai.

Before that I guess DoorDash. And that probably covers the past 7ish years of phone use.

There's just too much shit in the store, a lot of it is scammy or has dark patterns.

boplicity•2h ago
> the products they are pumping out don't serve anyone's need or solve anyone's problem.

This isn't true though.

Yes, there are too many products being build that don't serve anyone's needs or solve anyone's problems.

However, many of the AI products do solve problems and serve needs.

You're right though, to compare this to other booms, which also had the same problem. This is very much a "hyper" version, which is pretty incredible to be in the middle of.

PaulDavisThe1st•2h ago
> However, many of the AI products do solve problems and serve needs.

Every solution to a problem comes with its own costs. It is entirely possible that most solutions that are rooted in modern computing technology have actual or perceived costs that exceed the value of "solving the problem".

The problems that most people have that they really want to solve are not addressable by AI, or computers, or software.

showerst•1h ago
I don't mean that _all_ AI built stuff is useless, just that the number of products where 'marketing budget' is the bottleneck is dwarfed by the number of tools that aren't that special in the first place.

If you have a product that:

1. Solves a real problem people would pay for

2. Is not trivially replicable by your potential customers or competitors

3. Does not have a natural discovery mechanism by potential customers

Then you need the marketing budget.

That is not most people's problem.

tjwebbnorfolk•36m ago
Ok but pick any category of human endeavor and 80% of it is garbage in the beginning. There were 3000 car companies in the 1920s, and most of them sucked, and so they died. The market over time will sort out who survives and who does not.

It will take a few years for investors to figure this out, but in the meantime, everyone is spreading their bets around like peanut butter in order to be in the game.

arrsingh•9m ago
I think item #2 in your list is the real kicker here. Given that AI can write code the threshold for "trivially replicable" is going down.

Unless your thing has strong network effects or a large capex requirement (ex: GPU infra) its easily replicated and I think that's really what makes things hard.

neom•2h ago
I worked during the digital revolution in film, I've told the story a zillion times on HN but basically, I went through the first pure digital film program in Canada, by the time I graduated 70% had dropped out, as far as I know I'm the only one who made a proper go at it, and even then when my startup was taking off, a new hot shot would show up every month and be gone the next when they got bored or frustrated when nobody thought they were special. Tools are tools.
curiouscavalier•23m ago
yeah this is really a part of it. Both founders and investors get spooked by the rapid entries into a market but persistent not just when it’s hard but when it’s boring goes so much farther.
ncphillips•9m ago
> a new hot shot would show up every month and be gone the next when they got bored or frustrated when nobody thought they were special

I don't know much about film industry, and I have a ton of brainfog from being sick today.

Could you say more? What made them a hotshot? They thought they were like, creative geniuses with digital film or something?

Bnjoroge•1h ago
Eh, there's some truth it both. The truth is somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. Distribution absolutely matters, often times even more than the product. And vice versa
clickety_clack•1h ago
This seems to me like the few booms I’ve seen before. Absolutely crazy valuations with very little behind them, massive hype, everyone’s unemployed uncle suddenly becoming a shallow expert. It’s probably going to end the same way too, once the upward momentum dissipates and things start to retreat to “fundamentals”, we’ll find out that there were a lot fewer solid points in the market than we were all told to expect, so the fundamentals are actually pretty far down. After 5 to 10 years of regrouping, a more mature and solid version will come about and become such a normal part of life we barely even remember what it was like without it.
steveBK123•1h ago
We are well on our way to the popping of inflated expectations.

Currently people are taking AI hype too seriously and extrapolating its success out in such a way as to discount the value of other businesses.

Example - last week a bunch of trucking stocks crashed 10-20% because a $6M company that pivoted from Karaoke to AI demoed something.

This is just insane. Sure, if say Waymo is pivoting into commercial trucking.. maybe. But people are basically shorting minutemaid lemonade because their neighbors kids opened up a lemonade stand. Demos are easy, products are hard.

koolba•1h ago
> The moat isn't money for out-marketing your idea that 750 other people are building, it's having a good idea that solves a problem that nobody else is solving well.

An idea is not a moat. Execution is only a moat if being nimble is part of the ongoing offering.

_DeadFred_•40m ago
Historically, during booms like this (for example the industrial revolution), it was, because we had patent protections in order to encourage ideas to be brought to market. I don't see how you can have an AI revolution that doesn't just funnel everything to the top without something similar.

Why invent the cotton gin, find investors, and bring it to market if the steel company with the infinite worker machine can instantly compete with you?

_DeadFred_•42m ago
Not really. It's money/resources. I had some really useful apps I built for myself. I looked at releasing them, but there were companies whose business model was waiting for people like me to release apps that solve a problem, and then just instantly jump on creating a solution and outcompeting the independent app.

It's trivial for competitors with bigger pockets to outcompete you on your idea, and there are companies whose business model is just that. And with AI customers are trying to do it themselves as well. The only startup I wouldn't be nervous about as a small team without large financial backing would be ones where we start out partnered to multiple companies in the targeted industry so that we can leverage that connection.

Historically this is why we have copyright/patent laws. To make it make sense for people to try to bring their ideas to the world. But with everything changing we are back to everyone just sitting on their concepts/solutions unless they have big money behind them.

ge96•2h ago
I hope this is true, I'm trying to make a multi-agent orchestration thing that looks at grain futures, satellite imagery, news, etc... to trade crypto. I'll probably lose but yeah.

Maybe the guy doing their 9-5 can run many agents to make them money while they work their day job.

Is that a thing, you get hired at some company then you use an agent to work for you, deep fake video calls, cursor code... that would be crazy. Get another job and split your time between agents for minor corrections.

clay_the_ripper•2h ago
Doing hard things has always been, and always will be, hard.

Building a static HTML page was “hard” in the 90’s. It took actual skills.

Any piece that gets easier automatically opens up more hard avenues to tackle.

no one is willing to pay you for easy.

elliotbnvl•2h ago
Ahhh that lines up with a thought I had recently: you get out of life what you put into it. I am beginning to believe that there's some kind of metaphysical rule here that is true everywhere, all the time.

So maybe the solution is: find the hardest stuff to do and do the crap out of it.

elliotbnvl•2h ago
The followup thought / concern that occurs: what if the number of hard things is going down?
Barbing•1h ago
I would have imagined it's going up while the percentage of people who are capable of doing the hardest things is going down.

Not that I know much of anything.

pixl97•1h ago
We probably need to split apart things like "hard" and "both hard and useful".

Just because you're doing something hard, doesn't mean anyone wants it.

Just because you're doing something useful doesn't mean you're going to get paid much for it.

Just because something is hard and useful doesn't mean someone is going to pay you for the cost of the effort.

AntiDyatlov•2h ago
I really don't think that's true, you can put a lot of effort into a wrongheaded strategy, netting you no or bad results.

Conversely, a good strategy can get you good results without that much effort.

danny_codes•2h ago
The entire pitch of LLM companies is that that’s not true. The LLM does the hard work, and you pay the LLM company for the tokens. So the gate is just, can you afford enough tokens.

Not saying that’s what will happen in reality, but that is the marketing pitch

moregrist•2h ago
I was there in the 90s. I built a few bad static HTML pages. It wasn’t hard. There are lots of stories of non-CS / non-technical people making stuff from the dotcom era.

Making a dynamic page was harder. Integrating with a payment system was almost magical; there’s a reason PayPal became big.

But what was truly hard, and continues to be hard, is building a page, either static or dynamic, that people actually want to visit.

bdcravens•33m ago
Building static pages that worked in both Netscape and IE 4, and could function well with constrained dial up speeds, may not have been "hard", but it did come with a number of challenges.
tquinn35•2h ago
I disagree. I think creativity is still a valid moat. You still need to build good products. Its like a restaurant anyone with some money can open a restaurant but you need to has the creativity to make a good one.
CGMthrowaway•2h ago
The only moat that can beat the money moat, in fact

Money (better thought of as credit, since we are talking about fiat here) is an attractor so much as it can stand for or purchase productive energy. If that fails (central bank failure, currency failure, government failure), creativity takes its place

52-6F-62•2h ago
I think, in time, it will be shown to be the real, persistent differentiator. And far more valuable.

But it's also not a moat in the same way. It's accessible to everyone, but you have to actually disregard the parts of yourself that want to drive hard in some direction just for money or power or external validation.

From the look of things right now, it may take some pain before that really gets to shine.

HPsquared•2h ago
What's to stop someone copying your creations? Creativity is the reason a moat is needed.
giancarlostoro•2h ago
You don't need a ton of creativity for a good restaurant if you have good staff, and upkeep. I'll take a boring well maintained and staffed restaurant over an overpriced "creative" restaurant where the waiters are terrible and the chef is even worse.
pixl97•2h ago
And you'll still probably get beat by a restaurant in a better location or one with better marketing
giancarlostoro•2h ago
I can't remember the last time I ate anywhere because of an ad. I eat out a lot too, used to uber eats nearly every single day. I wont reorder at places that mess up my order, but consistent quality I reward. Chick Fil A gives me the best service out of any fast-food restaurant, so they earn my repeat business.
boplicity•2h ago
People almost never admit it when they respond to an ad. Even when they very clearly do.

Don't underestimate the effectiveness of advertising, or its ability to influence you.

giancarlostoro•1h ago
I distinctively remember when ads have worked on me to buy something. Sometimes I blacklist a brand if an ad is deceptive and makes me click on something, but I don't watch TV much if at all, and the streaming services I do use I pay to have ads removed.
Jensson•24m ago
You don't even see ads for local restaurants, you just go there because its close or a friend recommended it. How could you get influenced by something that doesn't exist? Their marketing is just the storefront, people go there since they are interested in this new place.
boplicity•21m ago
Google Ads, especially Google Maps, has tons of paid ads for local restaurants. So does Uber Eats and similar ilk.

I particularly despise these ads in Maps because the ad often obscures the search result I'm looking for -- and I end up accidentally clicking on an advertisement for some other restaurant than the one I was looking up.

trashb•1h ago
This assumes the market is not oversaturated. It does not work if there are only a couple of people trying to find a place to eat in a street with 30 similar well maintained and staffed restaurants.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, you may be thinking of restaurants where their defining factor is "having a very creative atmosphere", which will not suit all customers. However it is a differentiating factor which will serve a big audience that is under served in a location filled with "boring well maintained and staffed restaurant".

In my view the creativity comes in in finding solutions to a problem, in a oversaturated market the problem may be "how do I persuade customers to come to my restaurant instead of my competitor?". And following that question may be (in the restaurant example) "what can I offer that is under served in the current market?" The solution to that may be "a biker cafe" or "an overpriced "creative" restaurant where the waiters are terrible and the chef is even worse" (perhaps even rude on purpose).

Additionally I assume you want the restaurant to grow. If you want the restaurant to just survive the bar is lower and you may be able to do that by doing the same everyone else is doing as long as you meet the minimum.

AstroBen•2h ago
Your creativity will be copied within days
fuzzfactor•1h ago
Some peoples' yes, others no.
gorgoiler•2h ago
The claude.ai web UI has a bug right now. If you inline some code by typing an opening backtick then the closing backtick swallows your space, puts the next letter you type after the code, then everything else back inside the code span.

One day we might be able to write software without bugs. That day is clearly not here yet.

(Firefox in Linux if anyone wants to repro. Can’t file a bug as it’s a closed, proprietary piece of software.)

sowbug•1h ago
Creativity is a kind of labor. Like all labor, it never earns pay more than once.
esseph•17m ago
Then what are acting and music royalties?
trashb•1h ago
I think creativity is still a valid moat. And I think creativity will become a very important moat!

I am a firm believer of "limitation breeds creativity" and being able to make what you want with immediate result will lead to less diverse solutions. In a world of in-diverse products you need more creativity to stand out as it will become harder to conceive of something "outside of the box".

Similarly to how anyone can basically create any image they desire in Photoshop (with some limited training). Leading to a lot of images of a similar style instead of a lot of different styles (ai slop anyone?). This is because between the idea and the result the roadblocks are reduced, the process is smooth (tools aim for 1:1 conversion). In the creative process these roadblocks are usually where you will find interesting new directions or ideas. And very often the original idea was not that interesting to begin with (and perhaps not as original as we would like to believe).

jonathanstrange•30m ago
That's my hope, too, since I've had the unfortunate luck of practically being forced to fulfill my lifelong dream and create a software company as a solo dev in 2025. Great timing...

However, I've gotten doubts about the value of creativity and having a vision. Plenty of people have great creativity and a fantastic vision, and we can see already how AI allows people to churn out interesting and useful projects at much faster pace than just a few years ago. The problem is that it seems more and more impossible to actually make a living of that.

Anybody with the money to have access to enough AI will be able to create a clone of software X. We might not be there quite yet but it's just a matter of time. That seems to be a death sentence for any small software business.

sebstefan•2h ago
>Every morning a few thousand people wake up and ship something. A tool, a SaaS, a newsletter, an app that does the thing the other app does but slightly differently. They post it on Hacker News. Nobody clicks.

>This is not new. What's new is the scale. An AI can wake up (or whatever it does at 3am) and ship twelve of these before breakfast.

That's fun, I'm sure if somebody actually checked that and graphed it, you would not be able to pinpoint when AI starts on the graph

francisofascii•1h ago
Here is the Show HN Graph. I think it is obvious when AI starts. https://petegoldsmith.com/2026/01/26/2026-01-26-show-hn-tren...
ossa-ma•2h ago
> The value of human thinking is going down.

Wrong. Creativity, innovation, intuition, taste - all forms of thought solely inherent to humans, all going up.

elliotbnvl•2h ago
I used to agree completely, and a part of me still does. But the part of me that's scared that this isn't true is getting louder and louder.

I'm a novelist and software engineer. The value of one of those skills is trending to zero. I'm not seeing much to suggest, in the face of the hockey stick of doom, that the other isn't.

52-6F-62•2h ago
Depends. Are you still measuring value in dollars?
elliotbnvl•2h ago
I got mouths to feed, so... yeah.
52-6F-62•1h ago
Indeed. But the line of discussion was about the value of human thought.
ativzzz•48m ago
If our human thoughts can't be translated to food and shelter, then we'll pick up guns and go steal the food and shelter from someone else.
trashb•1h ago
If anyone can create what they want won't coming up with good ideas be the value, therefore the creativity will become more important?

I don't know what you wrote and I agree that it is very sad that the skill of writing is very undervalued at this moment. But I think that trend is not new and in reality not created by AI (just accelerated). But I think value of writing was never in the writing itself but the knowledge and ideas behind the writing. Because mechanics of writing sped up (handwritten, typewriter, word processor). But the process of writing a novel did not speed up significantly as the bottleneck is the ideas and iteration on those ideas not the delivery of the output. Similar to how programming is more then typing code.

So I think the real crisis right now is that people equate typing speed with programming speed (or writing speed) and due to advances in the former undervalue the later.

Sadly the reality is that it won't pay for the bills anymore.

Perhaps in a while people will realize how important the quality of ideas (and the iteration to arrive at them) is.

danny_codes•1h ago
why? We have no real evidence to support this claim.
AstroBen•2h ago
People here saying creativity or having a good idea is the moat

You know that if anything you build gets traction, it'll be cloned by 100 people, right?

sowbug•1h ago
It isn't the moat. But it gives you a head start to build it.
atomicnumber3•2h ago
"The value of human thinking is going down."

No! I fundamentally reject this.

The value of unoriginal thinking has gone down. Thinking which is quotidian and pedestrian has become even more worthless than it already was.

The value of true, original human thinking has gone up even higher than it ever has been.

Do we think no new companies will ever succeed now? Of course not. Who, then, will succeed? It will be innovators and original thinkers and those with excellent taste.

Why did stripe make big inroads in developer spaces even if they are in an ultra competitive low margin market? They had excellent taste in developer ergonomics. They won big not because they coded well or fast (though I know pc thinks their speed is a big factor, I think he is mostly incorrect on that) but because they had an actual sense of originality and propriety to their approach! And it resonated.

So many other products are similar. You can massively disrupt a space simply by having an original angle on it that nobody else has had. Look at video games! Perhaps the best example of this is how utterly horribly AAA games have been doing, while indie hits produce instantly timeless entries.

And soon this will be the ONLY thing that still differentiates. Artistic propriety, originality, and taste.

(And, of course, the ever-elusive ability to actually execute that I also don't think LLMs will help with.)

elliotbnvl•2h ago
This is a compelling assertion. But who among us has truly original thoughts? How much new stuff can there be? If all the same-y stuff is losing value (but most stuff has value because it's FOUND not because it's unique) then isn't net value decreasing?
bossyTeacher•1h ago
>The value of unoriginal thinking has gone down. Thinking which is quotidian and pedestrian has become even more worthless than it already was.

Imagine American manufacturing industry workers saying the same thing of the (at the time) soon-to-be import only products. Original thoughts are valued more than non-original ones but maybe, the market doesn't require that many original thoughts to extract max profit...

999900000999•58m ago
You need money to explore ideas.

Or an absurd amount of skill.

Say Amy is a great NodeJS and front end programer.

She can work on her own projects , but her kids can't eat hope and dreams.

Or she can get a job at SoulCrusher Solutions trying to maximum advertising revenue.

imWildCat•2h ago
I saw Peter Steinberger whose creativity is huge and made a difference. Yeah you can say he's already rich.

But I also saw many people like him including the author of Flask. Also the author of XcodeBuildMcp, tailwindcss

cynicalsecurity•2h ago
Doom and gloom nonsense.
norbert515•2h ago
While building has becomes way cheaper (and probably is going to become even cheaper in the future), is building something exceptional really that much cheaper now?

AI has certainly made it so much simpler to just pump "something" out (slop), but did it actually make building something that went through hundreds and thousands of iterations significantly cheaper?

I also like to think AI is really raising the bar for everybody. In the past, you could easily get away launching a product with a crappy landing page and a couple of bugs here and there, is that still the case? Don't people just expect a perfect landing page at this point (when's the last time anybody specifically talked/ thought about responsiveness?) paired with a flawless onboarding etc.?

mtam•2h ago
I disagree. Customer relationships, taste, creativity, tenacity, execution excellence, industry relevance, reputation, non-public data, etc... are all hard earned or intrinsic capabilities that matter a lot more than feature development speed/cost.
rvz•2h ago
So this is what the VCs were screaming about this bullshit about "abundance".

Abundance of copy cats that cannot make any money as prices are raced to zero.

thoughtfulchris•2h ago
> The people winning mostly had a head start. Or they have money. Usually both.

It feels like that doesn't it? But, as one counter-point, OpenClaw. :)

Btw I did a deep-dive into AI moats last week and wrote a blog post about it. Relationships were most likely the strongest moat from my research - but definitely having a large amount of money in reserves helps. https://www.cjroth.com/blog/2026-02-11-moats-in-the-age-of-a...

dzink•2h ago
The well is drying. You have less money available for hustling and less small players with money. With layoffs happening everywhere you have more people with ambition and time on their hands, but less of them can afford big expenses or major risks.

The hype machine currently pushing for agents is selling agents ability to do automated marketing. However the bigger companies know better than to create giant security holes and the small players are either not technically skilled, or will balk at the huge per-use fees for the good models, or will be drowned out because of low quality cheap model output.

ge96•2h ago
I had this conspiratorial thought, would a model really just spit out some money-making scheme, or would it be blocked. Made me think to run the model myself on my own GPUs but still a black box, at least you control your prompts/data flow locally.
bell-cot•2h ago
I'm no big fan of economists - but if some type of business is seen as highly desirable to be in, and has minimal barriers to entry, then the market will soon be saturated. Expecting otherwise is (at best) wishful thinking.
maccam912•2h ago
I liked the part about attention being the scarce resource now. Everyone is competing for your attention. But then I see a world in which openclaw is managing emails for people and searching the internet for them and shopping in their behalf. How long until we start seeing advertising specifically targeting AI instead of humans?
lp4v4n•2h ago
There is an old word for it: saturation.

And let's be honest that's not a new thing. It's been already a long time since you had a revolutionary idea in the shower only to google it(or use an LLM nowadays) and discover that there are already eight different apps that do what you were thinking.

nsxwolf•2h ago
Welp guess I’m done then.

Kind of nice to know I don’t have to blame myself anymore.

AJRF•2h ago
> When creation was hard, skill was the differentiator I don't think people use things because they are hard to make
dudewhocodes•2h ago
Have people naturally started sounding like an LLM when they write and talk? To me this article reads not fully human.
boxedemp•2h ago
There's multiple things happening here. People are using LLMs to write, for sure. It's only natural to absorb what you consume, so as people read more LLM generated content they can unintentionally emit it.

And then there's classic confirmation bias; a lot of people wrote in dry academic prose.

kldavis4•2h ago
looks like the real tension here is that "money" and "reach" aren't quite the same moat though. I think the post kind of conflates them. existing audience is the actual barrier - money can buy ads but it can't buy trust or distribution, not quickly anyway

the gravitational threshold thing is real ngl. I've seen the same dynamic in product launches - identical quality, completely different outcomes based on whether you're already above the line or not. that part holds up

not sure the "creativity is the moat" counterargument fully lands either. yeah taste matters, but AstroBen's point is valid - anything that gets traction gets cloned basically immediately now. so creativity gets you first mover advantage for like... a week?

maybe the actual moat is just community? people who already trust you before you ship. which is a form of reach I guess, so kind of proves the point

cyrusradfar•2h ago
I appreciate the conversation the post initiates.

Nevertheless, by counter-example -- OpenClaw's creator was just recruited by people with more capital than countries.

If they could "re-produce" it with their capital, they would've preferred that.

Whatever he has, is still a moat. What that is, is debatable.

Is it brand? Is it his creativity? Is it trust/autheticity? A vision? Ownership of a repo or leadership of that community?

All those are perceived moats (or risks) by these folks that tried to scoop him up.

plagiarist•1h ago
It was 100% the brand. The creativity may be a bonus for OpenAI. They saw a shitload of people buying Mac Minis specifically for this software.

I don't find a single counter-example compelling. I guess as evidence that "only moat" is somewhat hyperbolic?

But to counter the counter-example, what would have happened if he did not join? OpenAI can just write and release their own version. They can then do the typical loss-leader and advertising tricks that OpenClaw cannot.

The "simply write and release" is what used to be a barrier.

tencentshill•57m ago
He was competition. They can't have people running their own self-hosted LLMs on their own hardware, and realizing it AI be useful without a subscription!
jerf•1h ago
Luck has always been a solution to reach. It doesn't scale, though.

In the case of OpenClaw I think you're looking at a fairly pure iteration of luck there, too. It isn't even a case of "I prepared for years until luck finally knocked" or any variant like that. It was just luck.

If that is the only counterexample I'd say it doesn't disprove the point, if anything it just strengthens it. Nobody can build a business plan based on "I plan to be as lucky as OpenClaw".

r_lee•1h ago
like another guy said, it's rhe marketing thing. the open claw thing became a hit sensation in the news etc. and now OpenAI can claim it as theirs. they have infinite money anyways, so might as well buy stuff like that I guess.
supermdguy•2h ago
I think there's still value in building quality products, but AI makes it easy to build something that appears good but doesn't actually work that well. It's very difficult to communicate the thought and intentionality that went into a well-designed product in a way that stands out amongst the noise.
turnsout•2h ago
Difficulty is the only true moat. [Astronaut: always has been]

Current examples: esoteric calculations that are not public knowledge; historical data that you collected and someone else didn't; valuable proprietary data; having good taste; having insider knowledge of a niche industry; making physical things; attracting an audience.

Some things that were recently difficult are now easy, but general perception has not caught up. That means there's arbitrage—you can charge the old prices for creating a web app, but execute it in a day. But this arbitrage will not last forever; we will see downward price pressure on anything that is newly easy. So my advice is: take advantage now.

abeppu•2h ago
I think the other moat is access to non-public data. If you can train, measure, or make decisions based on specific data that the vibecoder trying to clone you can't get, you can keep ahead.
autoconfig•2h ago
> When creation was hard, skill was the differentiator: you had to actually be good to make something worth showing. Now the barrier is near zero, so you need reach. Reach costs money or it costs years. Probably both.

Creation has progressively been getting easier since the invention of the computer, it is not a new phenomena. This naturally pushes the boundary on what needs to be delivered in order to find paying customers. In other words, creation still is "hard" if you want to succeed.

> I launched something last week. 14 people signed up — no ads, just a couple of posts. 14 real people who didn't have to. That number is tiny and it felt like something. Then I sat down to think about what it would take to grow it and I couldn't look at that math for very long.

This applies to 90+% of founders that have ever launched something. The hard part comes from continuing to push forward when you experience this (which you will over and over). It sounds like the author expects that what was hard suddenly should be easy.

apsurd•1h ago
sounds like the author is discovering business.

I didn't read the article, but yes, going from 0-1,1-10 is really hard and really rewarding. And it got easier with the Internet. Going from 10-1k and 1k-1M is a different ball-game. Always was.

The dream of running my own company got me to learn programming. 20 years later I'm an employee at a company still dreaming of running my own company. But now I can realize that reality and dreams are not the same and that's ok. As in, I probably really don't want to run my own company. We'll see =P

tensor•1h ago
> Creation has progressively been getting easier since the invention of the computer, it is not a new phenomena. This naturally pushes the boundary on what needs to be delivered in order to find paying customers. In other words, creation still is "hard" if you want to succeed.

Only for developers. Outside of software creation is still hard. Global markets giving access to excellent manufacturing sure does help, but software is a bubble.

Jensson•30m ago
Creating marketing material has certainly gotten easier as well, it used to require a lot of work to create these spam pamphlets and company documents but today its trivial. Of course those are worthless to society so didn't help GDP but it filled our society with advertisements and spam and filled companies with worthless documents since now nobody thinks before making one.
Waterluvian•50m ago
Something I've noticed a lot with Twitch streamers and YouTubers is that many of them want the outcome and are prepared to do the work, but want some sort of guarantee of success. It's very difficult to really sell to people that you will work very hard for a while and there's absolutely no promise that you'll ever have more than 14 subscribers. That's simply the core risk of entrepreneurship.
djaro•18m ago
Also, as someone who's main source of income is a YouTube channel: there is a type of threshold effect, where your videos are not good enough to watch until one day they suddenly are.

This means that until you reach that threshold, it feels like you're not making progress, cause every video just gets the same result (no views). Even if below the surface, you're slowly inching closer to that moment where your videos will actually be watched.

jonathanstrange•42m ago
You've basically chosen to ignore the whole AI argument as if it was just another tool and we had business as usual. Given how pervasive and fast developing it is, there should be an argument why it can be dismissed so easily.
phil21•22m ago
It's just another way of saying "Ideas are worthless, execution is what matters" which has always been largely true.

Yes, you need the idea first of course. But that's truly the easy part. 99% of "ideas" rely on great execution to be worth even looking at - much less paying for - for anyone else.

heathrow83829•11m ago
i would argue that reach has already been the biggest limiting factor for the last 10 even 20 years.
alfalfasprout•11m ago
The thing is, the barrier isn't near zero. The time to reach an MVP has just decreased. But you still very much need expertise, strategy, etc. to deliver something worthwhile. The bar has just increased.
ericmcer•6m ago
Seriously you can ship in a week things that FAANGs would have paid billions for 10 years ago.

LLMs are just glue between pieces of your code you still need to be able to plug them into a coherent architecture to do something impressive.

Rapzid•2h ago
> The value of human thinking is going down. You probably knew this. The corollary is rarely mentioned: the value of a human eyeball is going up, because there are only so many of them and there are now infinite things that want to be looked at.

Hey, so I'm thinking about getting my car washed..

This article reads as overly hyperbolic; cashing in on the AI hysteria. AI derangement.

elliotbnvl•1h ago
I am not cashing in on AI hysteria. I am AI hysterical. lol. Kinda joking but kinda not. How do you have chill while the world is crashing down?

I’m young so that’s probably part of it, only ~12 years into my career and haven’t experienced too many world defining shifts.

fullStackOasis•1h ago
I like the idea of you https://joinkith.com/ but I don't see how it can possibly work. These are the issues:

There are people who are sick of social media and will never be convinced to join up again. They've already left the building and aren't looking for anything else. I'm not quite there, but almost.

Other people are using established social media simply because that's where their people and orgs publish. I am eternally frustrated when my local cafe uses Insta or FB for their "web presence", but I'm not going to be the one to convince them to use something else. I hate that my local rock climbing partner finder group is located on FB, but what can I do about it? I also think it sucks that there are thousands of people in that group - I soon realized that this group simply doesn't work for me, since rock climbing requires high trust and I can't trust thousands of people.

Many people resist the idea of signing up for yet another social media account, esp when none of their people/orgs are already there. For example, I've sometimes thought of starting a Heylo group for local rock climbers to find partners - this might actually help me find more climbing partners. But I've never tried it. I just don't think people will join. The barrier to entry is (1) install app (2) create login (3) use app. SFAICT no one wants to do this if they're already on FB and already are a member of the group there. Even people that I know manage finding partners with email lists (gag). Can you imagine how much higher the barrier to entry would be if adding (4) you have to pay a monthly fee?

I do like the idea of "only allowed to invite someone that you know in meatspace" but how is this enforced? I also recognize that requiring payment could help increase the trust level, and I recognize that members have to pay in some way (ads, fees, sponsors, privacy violations) in order to support the platform.

georgemcbay•1h ago
> I’m young so that’s probably part of it, only ~12 years into my career and haven’t experienced too many world defining shifts.

I'm old (52) and a bit AI hysterical despite being well aware of the reasons I supposedly shouldn't be (variations of Jevon's Paradox, the fact that we've had similar disruptions before, etc).

I can't help but think that both the speed and massive breadth of the AI disruption across so many industries all at once makes this a very different risk than anything we've experienced before, in my lifetime or before it.

It also doesn't help that at least here in the US this is all occurring when our government is both openly corrupt and particularly dysfunctional at solving any of the real-world problems facing its own citizens.

marcosdumay•14m ago
The world is crashing down for a huge variety of reasons, none of which are LLMs stealing jobs or anything like that.
rkilanh•1h ago
And the super rich now even switch to other people's money. A fund makes investments in SpaceX and Anthropic available:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/retail-investors-access-space...

It would be hilarious if the final "IPOs" will be in SPAC form with the help of SPAC king Chamath.

sd9•1h ago
Not discrediting the post, which I think is worthwhile and generally pointing at the right thing, however:

> I launched something last week. 14 people signed up — no ads, just a couple of posts. 14 real people who didn't have to. That number is tiny and it felt like something. Then I sat down to think about what it would take to grow it and I couldn't look at that math for very long.

They launched a paid social network, with no content available without joining a waitlist.

This would not have worked 20 years ago either. Bootstrapping the content for a _free_ social network is incredibly hard. But a paid social network where the only differentiating factor is that users are humans, and there is no activity in the network? Not going to work.

fuzzfactor•1h ago
>as someone who's been building for the internet for 25+ years, this is the first time that i've ever felt like it's very difficult to make money building new things.

I understand it was already the trend 25 years ago, but way before that you really weren't expected to be able to make money building things for the internet.

The internet itself was simply not designed for that to begin with.

Building things where the internet was an element was already getting bad enough.

The force from within to return to "normal" baseline may yield, but probably never go away.

>The people winning mostly had a head start. Or they have money. Usually both.

As said every millennium since institutions and finance have existed.

>Show HN, the one place the internet was supposed to notice if you built something real.

No no no no no. This is for people who want to share with a much more limited audience than the entire internet.

HN readers did notice a lot of times especially when the project is amazing, OTOH sometimes the latest little side project from somebody well-known, or random interest could be shown.

Naturally the most popular things are free since that's inherently the most compatible with the internet anyway.

But real marketing and promotion is supposed to be far away from this site. If you're trying to sell to "the internet" you've got the whole rest of the internet for that.

HN is not supposed to be enough to be widely noticed at all, if you've got something that's worth marketing, YC is there the whole time and might be able to get you making the most of the internet and then some. Especially if you need a moat of money.

But why do so many people think the only business plan is to prepare to be sieged by a small enough horde which can be deterred by a moat anyway?

>if you're not already moving, you might never take off.

>The cost of acting like it isn't true when it is: permanent.

As I first mentioned, the internet being in place so people can make money off of it is the thing that just wasn't true to begin with, lots of people had some pretty good workarounds for a while though.

I've been watching businesses from startups to large corporations lock in high costs the exact same way for decades before the internet ever came around.

ctoth•1h ago
No, it's imagination, same as it ever was.

Software to most of this discussion is a web app with a landing page, a pricing tier, and MRR. That's it. The frame is "product," the metric is "traction," and the canvas is "things people pay $9/month for."

But software is instructions that make matter and energy do things they wouldn't otherwise do. It's the most general-purpose tool humans have ever built. So let's actually think about what's underbuilt:

The whole damn physical world is barely instrumented. Agricultural systems, water infrastructure, building envelopes, soil health, local microclimates. There are farmers making irrigation decisions on vibes. Municipal water systems with no real-time leak detection. Buildings hemorrhaging energy because nobody's modeled their thermal behavior. These aren't apps. They're control systems, and they're mostly missing.

Fabrication and manufacturing are being transformed by CNC/3D printing but the software for designing things to be manufactured is still terrible (and inaccessible!). Generative design that accounts for material properties, toolpath constraints, assembly sequences. CAM software is where word processors were in 1985.

Scientific instruments. A spectrometer is mostly software now. So is a radio telescope. So is a seismograph. Every goddamn thing can be a thermometer (accidentaly!) The gap between "data sensor exists" and "useful scientific instrument" is almost entirely software, and most of that software is written by grad students in unmaintained Python.

Preservation. Some people are doing this with datamuseum.dk. But expand it: there are entire musical traditions, oral histories, craft techniques, ecological knowledge systems that exist in living memory and nowhere else. Software for capturing, encoding, and transmitting that knowledge barely exists. Not "an app for recording grandma," but formal knowledge representation of, say, how a master boatbuilder in Kerala selects wood by sound and flex.

Prosthetics and rehabilitation. This one is big for me personally! The gap between what a modern prosthetic limb could do with good software and what it actually does is enormous. Why are my eyeballs still chunks of plastic? Same for cognitive rehabilitation tools, speech therapy systems, physical therapy feedback loops.

Governance and collective decision-making. Every organization above 20 people is making decisions with tools that are basically "email plus meetings plus a shared doc." Formal deliberation systems, preference aggregation, transparent resource allocation. These are hard computer science problems that nobody's building because they don't have obvious MRR.

Tools for thought that aren't note-taking apps with backlinks. Actual reasoning aids. Argument mapping. Assumption tracking. Decision support that makes your thinking better rather than your typing faster.

The entire domain of formal verification applied to things that matter. Bridges, medical devices, voting systems, financial settlement. We have figured out how to prove some? software correct. We almost never do it for the software where correctness actually matters.

And that's me, one person, in five minutes. Every domain expert in the world is sitting on a pile of unsolved problems that software could address, and most of them have never talked to a programmer because programmers are busy building the next task management app.

Go talk to a nurse, a farmer, a building inspector, a food bank logistics coordinator. Ask them what's broken. I promise the answer isn't "nothing" and I promise nobody on ProductHunt is solving it.

PG wrote essays about this ffs! "Make something people want." "Live in the future and build what's missing." That advice didn't stop being true because AI made the building part cheaper. If anything it's more true now, because the building is almost free, which means the noticing is almost the entire game. You are skipping the noticing and going straight to the building, then wondering why nobody cares.

The number of hard things isn't going down. This thread can't see them because it's not looking at the world. It's looking at ProductHunt.

To make things concrete, in the last week I have been working on my open source speech synthesizer, rebuilding Klatt's ideas from the 1980 paper up to modern emotion/prosody work. Did you know the whole field went nuts for neural approaches in ~2018 and there's a whole shitload of interesting papers just sitting out there that nobody has ever implemented in a real system? Did you know that a bunch of people did research into what different human emotions sound like and now I can make a depressed speech synthesizer, or, scarily, one which sounds more honest to people?

speak_plainly•1h ago
In Republic I, Socrates distinguishes the art of medicine from the art of wage-earning. One is about the work; the other is about getting paid. Historically, the craft was the primary goal, and the money was an extrinsic side effect.

Today, the money-making side has staged a hostile takeover.

The attention conundrum is just a symptom of a deeper financialization. Multi-billion dollar companies have turned profit into a data-driven science – analytically turning the screws on every script, product, and interaction to optimize for extraction. This is the destruction of the art of making things.

The real issue is that you cannot compete with an entity that has no respect for the art. When a platform replaces the integrity of the work with the logic of a metric, the independent creator is no longer an underdog – they are functionally excluded. You can be the best at any art, but in a system that prioritizes sheer extraction over excellence, your craft effectively ceases to exist.

dzonga•1h ago
Saturation of channels due to slop content - doesn't mean that created stuff is not scarce

there's more problems then ever before that need empathetic humans to solve - are you up for the challenge - or you're doing a quick cash grab

due to people using machine gun approaches - spray & pray - we haven't forgotten how scalable human touch is -- yeah at first - you've to do things the manual way - reach out have a conversation - but slowly word spreads around without you spending money on ads | content etc

elliotbnvl•1h ago
Yeah 100% there's more legit stuff than ever, but there's also just more stuff than ever. So it becomes a discoverability problem.

To be honest this is what is discouraging me from writing more novels right now. The only reason I'm even considering it is because the love of the craft is hooked firmly in my gullet. Were it not for that I'd drop writing faster than a lava potato...

zhyder•1h ago
"the value of a human eyeball" / attention is and always will be the limited resource. But I wish the way the economy worked wasn't that attention is sold for money, which makes money the moat, and sets a floor on how low-priced things can get for customers too. Is this really the best the economy can do? Or is it possible to have a fair LLM-based search engine that matches customer need description with stated product descriptions from providers (while weighing customer reviews, etc)?
thornewolf•1h ago
For the comment from "Is Show HN dead? No, but it's drowning", the article author editorializes

"One of the great benefits of AI tools, is they allow anyone to build stuff... even if they have no ideas or knowledge.

One of the great drawbacks of AI tools, is they allow anyone to build stuff... even if they have no ideas or knowledge."

into

"One of the great benefits of AI tools is they allow anyone to build stuff, even if they have no ideas or knowledge. One of the great drawbacks is they allow anyone to build stuff."

which removes the rhetorical effectiveness of the comment (and also breaks the promise of a quotation). I recommend that OP represents the source exactly.

____

I now see that this article contains multiple GPT-isms

benatkin•1h ago
It would be better if the article editorialized it thusly:

> One of the great benefits as well as one of the great drawbacks of AI tools, is they allow anyone to build stuff... even if they have no ideas or knowledge.

I'd paraphrase it with "said that" since the quotations indeed present as though verbatim.

charcircuit•1h ago
Money is not a moat since you can buy money (debt) or sell equity for money.

>The thing I launched last week is called Kith — a paid, invite-only social network

Social networks already is an existing competitive space and making it both paid and invite only obviously will hurt its adoption. I wouldn't have been surprised if this failed to get users even if it was free and even if this was preLLM. A brand new social network doesn't truly solve users problems.

runako•1h ago
This is certainly one conclusion that could be drawn.

Another conclusion could be that as building software gets easier (like it did for ex in the 90s and again in the 2010s), opportunities are created for new entrants to displace Bad Old Software.

Those expensive Enterprise apps that everybody hates? Are absolutely begging to be replaced by something better for half the money.

We still live in a world where most individuals own more compute power than most universities did in the '80s, yet the only sign of automation is useless push notifications.

Data behind one pane of glass can't easily be moved to data behind a second pane of glass. Simple stuff like "move my Instacart shopping cart to Costco.com same-day" is a manual affair. This is a subset of the general problem that more apps has resulted in more data silos that are generally isolated, without APIs, without automation.

There are zillions of problems out there for which people will pay money, but money chases the same 4-5 problems at a time. Just work on one of the other ones.

silvestrov•34m ago
> as building software gets easier [...] new entrants to displace Bad Old Software

This didn't happen for music.

It is much easier to create/record music today than in the 70s and 80s, but the music created today is mostly boring AI music and not new exiting/inventing music.

2001zhaozhao•1h ago
If you thought things were hard now just wait for the industrial-scale fully automatic fast-follow bots that will nearly-universally nuke the human-created original product to oblivion in a few years...
derf_•1h ago
The way to tell if a business has a moat that I once learned was, "If someone gave you a billion dollars, could you go compete with that business and have a reasonable chance of winning." If the answer is yes, then the business has no moat. The numbers are bigger now, but I think the principle remains the same: money cannot be a moat.
random3•1h ago
A moat is around something that exists, meant to protect it. You're describing something else, not a moat with your example. OP used moat correctly, creative effort around existing earned skill, brand, etc.

To answer your question. Yes to a player already in a market with lack of funding, a billion dolars could be the necessary moat to win.

Money was, is and likely will be a moat for a while. But as a proxy, it may not be enough as a moat. Scarce resources may require more than money— e.g. IP classes or, if you're China, ASML machines.

shimman•1h ago
I can't think of a single software company that has a moat then. Good rubric to have and makes sense.
lysace•1h ago
It's like.. what happens when software becomes a solved problem? Like bricks for construction. There's not 50 million typically highly paid brick design engineers in the world.
advisedwang•1h ago
If someone has a problem they need solved:

* Attention span won't stop them recognizing a solution

* Numerous solutions won't stop them adopting one

* That the developer put little effort into building that solution won't put them off.

The real answer is of course that there's a lot of stuff that being built that doesn't solve people's problems people have, either because it targets a problem that doesn't really exist or because it fails to solve the problem it does target.

AstroBen•52m ago
Of course people will buy software.. but the 80% margins we had of yesteryear won't be there

The result of the barrier to entry being erased is that prices will also be driven to 0 as products are commoditized

It's hardly worth going into a market when you're 1 of 1000 and profit margins are at 3%

Any creativity you add, new spin you put on it, new features, innovation.. all that has negligible cost to copy

I don't think we're quite there yet, but this is where it's quickly heading

hoppp•1h ago
This post was an Ad also for his paid social network, it did reach me because the message resonates with me as a builder but I don't want to sign up to a social network

So the attention was there but not the conversion.

brandav•1h ago
Utilizing connections with influencers seems to be the most effective way to break through the noise now. Ironically, that's how it used to be before marketing and product development became so accessible.
carlosjobim•56m ago
Is the purpose of space exploration to build rockets? Or is the purpose to deliver things and people into orbit and to other worlds?

Is the purpose of a computer program to use processing, network and memory? Or is it to handle and manipulate information to give results which are useful to people?

Now the moat of having memorized intentionally convoluted and complicated programming languages has been taken away. Exactly like the printing press removed the monopoly on information which was held exclusively by priests and monks.

When tools make a job easier, they open up new markets for people to do and sell things which were too costly to offer before. AI translation alone means that small businesses can open up several markets they didn't have any access to, broadening the number of potential customers immensely.

seizethecheese•54m ago
The definition of a moat is what cannot be bought.
e10jc•49m ago
I really like this article, particularly the part about the gravitational threshold. My overall thoughts about launching products is that there will just be more products with smaller audiences, similar to how streaming broke down linear cable. As a software entrepreneur, this means going wider not deeper. Use your human skills to build relationships with people who have that gravitational pull. If you don’t have those relationships, go create them IRL. For context, I’ve founded and sold a social network to AOL, helped raise over $100m, and had 2 other acquisitions.
elliotbnvl•48m ago
Um... can we talk? :D
SilverElfin•45m ago
I think this was already true but it is becoming a lot more obvious now and the effects of this problem are going to affect a lot more people as we see mass white collar worker unemployment. Some people think with lower costs to make software more software is possible. But you can try to get started building a product only to see an improved AI agent build out your idea cheaply, or a bigger company use capital to copy you and enter the same market, and so on. Also, individuals who are richer can take more risks - the loss of money is not existential for them.

The only real fix is incredibly heavy taxation of income and wealth for the ultra rich individuals and ultra large companies. That is what will break through the money moat and create fair competition.

moomin•44m ago
It’s been true for some time. That moat has been getting shallower and shallower everywhere it isn’t inherited wealth. Not entirely shocking, large amounts of human history have been organised that way.
egonschiele•44m ago
Coding agents are good, but once the complexity is high they're not good enough. Eventually your agent won't be able to make changes to your code base without introducing bugs with every change. In my experience, the agents aren't very good with abstractions yet, and no amount of testing can completely paper over that problem. So yes, the industry is changing dramatically and at a breathtaking rate, but I don't think money is the only moat left.
nomel•1m ago
Not just complexity, but also anything requiring any actual ingenuity. It's impressive how "junior" it can be, with its (current) statistical shackles.
charlie0•43m ago
Kith looks interesting, but the main problem there is verifiability. How would it keep bad actors out? How does it verify posts by invitees aren't AI generated?
pmontra•24m ago
> Creation used to be the scarce thing, the filter. Now attention is. Most of us are on the wrong side of that trade.

"Wrong side" means that people on that side have to work harder to reach us. The terms of the trade did not change because creators are not starting to pay us to get our attention. Well, it happens sometimes: free trials, free tiers, coupons, etc. but it's a well established practice. The post contains a reference to "do more marketing".

sampo•20m ago
> the value of a human eyeball is going up

There must also be some value in advertising to the "eyeballs" of the AI? Even if they don't (yet) make that much decisions about spending, they do influence human decisions.

Centigonal•17m ago
It's the new SEO. Enterprise software vendors are already tailoring their marketing pages and docs to influence AI for when some VP asks their chatbot "which XYZ software should we consider buying?" This is something a coworker is facing at work as we try to leverage AI to speed up market discovery/tool selection work.
arrsingh•17m ago
This is not new. When I started my first company in 2012 it was bootstrapped and getting anyone to pay attention to what I was building was almost impossible. I had to pound the pavement and meet people in person at coffee shops and pitch to get my first few users.

Then when I raised from a16z and had some money in the bank it didn't get any easier. The money didn't help (maybe it wasn't enough). Ad spend or content marketing or paid channels were all hard regardless of the free vs paid.

Maybe I just wasn't good at it.

That was before AI and you had to manually pound the bits into place.

Now with AI yes there are a lot of people shipping a lot of things but humans can tell when someone's put effort into something vs not and the time to traction is still as high as it always was.

Someone should do some analysis on number of things that go "viral" or gain adoption quickly today vs 5 / 10 years ago.

Getting traction has always been hard. Thats just business.

japoneris•14m ago
I partly agree. Yes, the entry level is low. It helps me to gain time on my life, doing other things. But I do not believe that much that more people are going in. Most non coder people i know will not code a thing. Most bad student i got will not start to do side projects. So, yes people wanting to ship something ship more, but for the rest, there is still place.
amelius•12m ago
There should be more tax on capital because they are using it against us.
arbuge•11m ago
Building was already not the main obstacle before AI. Distribution was, and remains so - more than ever.
nickelpro•10m ago
> a paid, invite-only social network where every person is verified human and there's no algorithm

This seems like an incredibly niche product that only a handful of people are interested in to begin with. It isn't an interesting or surprising result that building it resulted in little interested from general audiences.

vadepaysa•2m ago
One thing I’ve noticed doing Show HNs recently:

People are flooded by new projects and assume (rightly) that most are low-signal, so they don’t engage. Because there’s low engagement, new projects get even less visibility. That reinforces the belief that nothing interesting can be built anymore.

I ship earlier now (often free and open source) to learn faster, but it doesn’t change the attention dynamics much.

The bottleneck isn’t building — it’s distribution and who already has an audience. Now dont get me started on getting an audience. thats a whole different pain.

colinnordin•39s ago
Everyone now have access to a tool that makes them nearly as powerful as only the most creative builders were before.

But these new builders have a tool, they don’t suddenly have a newfound creativity.

I think with time we will stop seeing what we consider AI slop, simply because we know it’s not worth sharing. Instead great creative people will share very impressive things that simply wasn’t possible to build before.