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Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

https://github.com/pocketbase/pocketbase/discussions/7287
47•Onavo•2h ago

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giancarlostoro•1h ago
That's a shame, would love to know if "FLOSS fun" is legit or not. Seems like a mess.
murillians•1h ago
I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"
BoredPositron•49m ago
It's a wire transfer not your medical records. Use escrow if you are paranoid.
DiabloD3•48m ago
I think it shouldn't.

The funding source was dropped by Github, and the terms Pocketbase accepted for funding include being paid through Github by FLOSS Fund. FLOSS Fund refused to follow the regulatory requirements to continue funding projects through Github, and Github dropped them as a funding source.

What the Pocketbase maintainer decided was to drop FLOSS Fund after they tried to renegotiate the contract in dangerous and unethical ways. FLOSS Fund chose to not follow regulatory requirements that Github required.

bawolff•30m ago
Its a contract where they give money in exchange for basically nothing.

It may be reasonable for pocketbase to refuse, but i have trouble seeing floss fund being unethical or in the wrong when we're talking about giving away money for nothing. Especially when the ask is just fill out the paperwork for a wire transfer, the world standard for sending money internationally.

Onavo•26m ago
Don't think escrow is possible because of KYC requirements, then again the regulations in India might be different.
sreekanth850•23m ago
Are you saying sending money via Wire transfer is unethical? Its a standard way to send money in cross boarder transactions. Please do note that India is highly regulated for financial transaction that go outside the country so, please don't spread something like they are doing it illegally. Zerodha is a well known firm they are open about this funding. 1 Million every year just because they used many oss project. That is not un ethical.
DiabloD3•8m ago
From what I can tell, no, they weren't just asking for wire details. They were were asking for multiple forms of identification.

If I was in his place, I don't think I'd send everything required to steal my identity to some company in a foreign country that I have no legal recourse in.

rvnx•8m ago
Unethical ? "they want to issue a wire transfer, but I don't feel comfortable giving my IBAN"
abtinf•1h ago
There are so many projects I could use pocketbase for, if only it supported Postgres.

I get the philosophical reasons behind why it doesn’t and why it’s SQLite only.

It’s just that in a corporate environment, I could trivially deliver full production ready applications because there is a team that handles all the Postgres replication/failover/ha/dr/backups/recovery for me. Pocketbase with pg would be super simple to deploy to a pod, getting 95% of production readiness done.

giancarlostoro•1h ago
> There are so many projects I could use pocketbase for, if only it supported Postgres.

So... you want Supabase? which is what Pocketbase is inspired by.

Onavo•23m ago
It's not single binary, you need to spin up a dozen or so containers and have a full DevOps team on standby if self hosting.
giancarlostoro•6m ago
Well yeah, that's the nature of using something like Supabase it is designed to scale and be flexible to develop on top of.
mtct88•1h ago
Supabase? https://supabase.com/
born-jre•50m ago
I am also building similar product but with different approach And just using SQLite for now but plan on adding Postgres support ( orm I am using supports it ) … but nowhere near production ready. Due to buzz around products like litestream I feel like just SQLite is also viable nowadays. I also have own cdc based replication thing wip but yeah just having fun stage

https://github.com/blue-monads/potatoverse

slopinthebag•22m ago
like others have said, try sup abase

https://supabase.com/docs/guides/self-hosting/docker

i havent tried self hosting but it doesn't look too tricky

embedding-shape•53m ago
Back in 2024, FLOSS/fund was described like this on HN:

> To apply, the project must place a funding.json in their public code repository or at a well-known uri location on their domain [...] That's already 10x more simpler than the 20 page document some of these other orgs have you fill. - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41857032

But the author of the issue for Pocketbase writes:

> due to some unforeseen regulatory constraints their partnership with GitHub didn't seem to work out. Instead they want to issue a wire transfer from India requiring several cross-jurisdictional paperwork but I don't feel comfortable doing that

It's a shame that it didn't seem like they could work out how to keep it as simple, I wonder if basing it in a different country could have made a difference.

sreekanth850•21m ago
India have a strict process for sending and receiving money from outside as investment. Its mainly to avoid black money i guess.
a456463•18m ago
Indians are to blame for this. The indian goverment is dictatorial and has no expectations or respect of privacy or human rights
samalander•52m ago
Pocketbase is such a smooth and easy-to-use database - great for people starting with web dev. I'm disappointed that it's not going to get the continued funding that it deserves.
embedding-shape•51m ago
> it's not going to get the continued funding that it deserves

I don't think they ever saw that funding in the first place, if I'm reading "not waiting for the disbursal before making big announcements" correctly. I guess you need to be disappointed about them never receiving it in the first place, although it doesn't seem like the project owner would necessarily agree with you.

bogzz•48m ago
Such a shame. I so love Pocketbase, used it when I was trying out HTMX for a side project.

I get the sense that ganigeorgiev is feeling the thanklessness of open source work, and I so wish that he had an easier time of it.

That said, it's a shame that a FLOSS fund being based in India is reason enough for it to be avoided. Like, I understand that Indians might be overrepresented in the scam space right now, but avoiding funding because of it involving "sharing data with the Indian government" is very silly in my opinion. And insulting to India.

a456463•18m ago
The Indian Govt is dictatorial and segregational. It is a valid concern. Freedom of speech and privacy are not something the government cares about upholding.
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