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Mark Zuckerberg Grilled on Usage Goals and Underage Users at California Trial

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/meta-mark-zuckerberg-social-media-trial-0e9a7fa0
56•1vuio0pswjnm7•3h ago

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davidee•2h ago
https://archive.is/20260218225234/https://www.wsj.com/us-new...
hinkley•1h ago
> In sworn testimony, Zuckerberg said Meta’s growth targets reflect an aim to give users something useful, not addict them, and that the company doesn’t seek to attract children as users.

That’s a perjury.

I suppose getting more ad revenue is useful to someone, but not the user.

Of course some of us warned that project management by A/B testing would lead to amoral if not outright immoral outcomes but wtf do we know about human nature? Turns out putting a badly made android in charge of a large chunk of culture leads to the near collapse of civilization, which I don’t think any of us would have predicted.

jjtheblunt•1h ago
> which I don’t think any of us would have predicted.

Skynet from Terminator probably would have been referenced by almost everyone, though, as an analogy?

hdgs76•1h ago
Wall Street has been rewarding morally detached leadership for decades using the language of rationality, math and science. Ask them what their source of morality is and their textbook answer is its mathematically inefficient.
Psillisp•1h ago
Capitalism's existence is actively turning the screws on humanity. The screws of Meta are a lot more refined than the ones used by the Slave Trade Monopoly of the Dutch West India Company but the screws persist.
2OEH8eoCRo0•1m ago
Their source of morality is only bound by law and money.
throwaway27448•1h ago
> Turns out putting a badly made android in charge of a large chunk of culture leads to the near collapse of civilization, which I don’t think any of us would have predicted.

I can't tell if this is supposed to be commentary on Zuckerberg or capitalism/free-market-based economies itself.

klik99•1h ago
I and others (but not as many as I would have thought) recognized the switch to algorithmic feed in 2006 was a fundamental shift in what social media was. But back then I predicted it would destroy Facebook, which was so wrong - really it ended up (partly) destroying western civilization.

I think people are good at sensing that things are changing but not how it’d play out. It’s very easy to see it in hindsight and even recognize it’s bad, I don’t think anyone saw how bad it would get. I just hope we don’t lose the ideals of free speech and the early promise of the internet with regulating platforms.

fusslo•1h ago
The whole article reads like a puff piece for Zuckerberg/meta.

They had him on the stand and these were the most interesting questions and answers? I feel like the WSJ is trying to convince me facebook is a good company trying its best and Zuckerberg is a reasonable empathetic person.

reactordev•1h ago
That’s exactly the lens they were hoping for
hisfraudulency•1h ago
There's an incredible cultural contempt for social media, everyone recognizes the harms, but we collectively spend more and more time on social media apps.

Wat mean?

fullshark•1h ago
It means it's addictive
estimator7292•27m ago
Ask yourself the same question but replace "social media" with "tobacco"
ThrowawayTestr•9m ago
Have you ever tried quitting smoking?
halestock•33m ago
Some alternative reporting:

https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-testifies-social...

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mark-zucke...

latchkey•18m ago
@dang at least the RS story vs. paywall please.
CobrastanJorji•4m ago
Fascinating how differently Musk's testimony is portrayed in the WSJ vs by Rolling Stone.
cadamsdotcom•23m ago
Oh wow they’re really holding him to account by asking some interesting questions then letting him get back to it.

/s

readams•19m ago
The concept of addiction seems be quite diluted at this point. Does it really make sense to say that, because you're trying to make a product that people like, that this means you're addicting them (intentionally or otherwise) to your product?

Food should not taste good? Books should not be entertaining? Don't try to make your video game fun, or some people may become addicted.

scottious•10m ago
this feels like a false equivalence and slippery slope fallacy.

Clearly things like cigarettes and hard drugs are bad and need very heavy regulations if not outright banned. There are lots of gray areas, for sure, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take things on a case-by-case basis and impose reasonable restrictions on things that produce measurable harm.

Whether or not social media does produce that measurable harm is not my area of expertise, but that doesn't mean we can't study it and figure it out.

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