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Why developers using AI are working longer hours

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-developers-using-ai-are-working-longer-hours/
48•birdculture•2h ago

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furyofantares•1h ago
> Software engineering was supposed to be artificial intelligence’s easiest win.

At what point in time? Did anyone foresee coding being one of the best and soonest applications of this stuff?

antonvs•1h ago
They're probably talking about some point after the capabilities of LLMs started to become clear.

It's why Codex, Claude Code, Gemini CLI etc. were developed at all - it was clear that if you wanted a concrete application of LLMs with clear productivity benefits, coding was low-hanging fruit, so all the AI vendors jumped on that and started hyping it.

furyofantares•1h ago
Sure, but jumping from its amazing these things work for code at all to software engineering is solved is something only grifters or those drunk on the kool-aid did.

I do agree that it was thought that these llm-agents would be extremely useful and that is why they were developed, and I happen to believe they in fact are extremely useful (without disagreeing that much of the stuff in the article definitely does happen.)

I just sort of resent the setup that it was supposed to be X but actually it failed, when not only is there only minor evidence that it failed, but it was only a brief period in time when it was supposed to be X.

throwaway314155•6m ago
No one saw it coming.
SoftTalker•1h ago
No silver bullet. We've known this since at least the 1980s. The fact that the authors of the code might not be human doesn't change this.
antonvs•1h ago
I can't deny that this might be a trend in practice, but at companies with reasonably self-aware practices, it isn't, or doesn't need to be.

There's this weird thing that happens with new tools where people seem to surrender their autonomy to them, e.g. "welp, I just get pings from [Slack|my phone|etc] all the time, nothing I can do than just be interrupted constantly." More recently, it's "this failed because Claude chose..." No, Claude didn't choose, the person who submitted the PR chose to accept it.

It's possible to use tools responsibly and effectively. It's also possible to encourage and mentor employees to do that. The idea that a dev has to be effectively on call because they're pushing AI slop is just wrong on so many levels.

cejast•26m ago
> More recently, it's "this failed because Claude chose..." No, Claude didn't choose, the person who submitted the PR chose to accept it.

I can relate to this, unfortunately these tools are becoming a very convenient way to offload any kind of responsibility when something goes wrong.

fnimick•11m ago
> It's possible to use tools responsibly and effectively. It's also possible to encourage and mentor employees to do that.

It's not in the company's interest to stop employees from overworking. Having people overwork for the same pay under pressure is the desired outcome, actually.

diavelguru•1h ago
This is a real thing. I spent all of January doing Greenfield development using Claude (I finished the requirements) and all I can say is thank goodness I had the Max 5x plan and not the 20x as I got breaks once the tokens were used up till the next cycle. I was forced to get up and do something else. That something else was biking, rowing, walking. My productivity had never been higher but at what cost? My health no thanks. So I'm glad I'm using the time till token reset for my health. I time it perfectly. I do a walk, row, bike for 1 hour then as I arrive back the tokens are reset. I get like 3 hours nonstop use per token batch with the 5x plan. I've been thinking about going 20x but am scared...
unshavedyak•1h ago
I don’t get this tbh, I use Claude too and my issue is the opposite - too many small breaks. Every time I hit enter my brain wants to checkout because the agent just spins while it creates thousands of tokens and churns on the subject. Even if it’s only 2m, that’s 2m where my mind has nothing to work on.

Hard to stay in flow and engaged.

Feels weirdly similar to being interrupted over slack.

androiddrew•1h ago
I have never been in a flow state with an agent running. I use agents, but that isn’t flow.
diavelguru•57m ago
yes agreed. I'm running 3-5 parallel Claude at once with requirements as the input. My prompt is say work on section 5.1 or something very specific. Then I'm monitoring the work across all instances.
diavelguru•53m ago
and flow state is a luxury in 2026 with AI swarm most likely to be found sparingly if all. Good luck all!
diavelguru•56m ago
you are correct flow is not achieved as this is not programming more like system design, architecture, QA, Product Owner work. It's using the swarm as your own dev team.
LoganDark•16m ago
But it's also programming as you have to study outputs to ensure they're correct. Some (it seems many) don't do this, and then their outputs usually aren't correct.
haliskerbas•9m ago
That’s what my teammates are for, I pipe slack and jira to Claude and the asker and teammates tell me if there’s a bug
DrewADesign•9m ago
Sounds more like code-level QA to me.
MattGaiser•25m ago
Are you a single agent user?

At least in my case, flow is gone. It’s all context switching now.

arjie•12m ago
I have similar problem but I have to switch contexts and it makes the work a lot more intense.
TheAceOfHearts•19m ago
Hypothesis: limiting usage / tokens could have a positive effect on project quality, since it forces the developer to think more carefully about the problems they're working on. When you're forced to stop and slow down, you try to be more deliberate with token usage. But if you have unlimited tokens you can just keep generating infinite lines of code without thinking as hard about the problem.

I've seen people on social media bragging about how they're able to produce a mountain of code as if this was praiseworthy.

DrewADesign•10m ago
One might wonder if the trend holds when limiting token use to… zero?
cpncrunch•17m ago
Does a person review all the AI generated code?
DrewADesign•5m ago
Not at all unless they’re a) competently b) making something worth anything at all that c) isn’t a proof-of-concept or the like.
Fordec•1h ago
Selection bias? The early adopters that are motivated to adopt tools to deliver more, typically also were working more to start with and may have already been struggling with their rate of output?
dworks•40m ago
thouroughly reviewing and especially testing is faster than skipping manual review and tests
cpncrunch•15m ago
I'm just curious how much of this AI generated code is reviewed by humans at all, and if that is factored into the productivity gains.
ausbah•36m ago
two unthought out thoughts:

1. llms allow devs to be more productive, so more free time is seen as opportunity for more work. ppl overshoot and just work more

2. generalized tooling makes devs seem more replaceable putting downward pressure on job security (ie work harder or we’ll get someone who will, oh and for less money)

3. llms allow for more “multitasking” (debatable) via many running background tasks, so more opportunities to “just finish one more thing”

poink•17m ago
Personally, I make a lot more "out of hour" commits than I used to because I'll batch up low priority tasks throughout the day and let the computer chug on them at night when I'm elsewhere. Commits are coming in at all hours, but I'm not actually looking at them until the next morning.
rglover•15m ago
I use it every day and I'm taking off weekends for the first time in a decade. It's done wonders for my mental health. I think teams should pay more attention to the value of pumping the brakes vs. incessant redlining. We may actually be able to have a healthy relationship with AI then.

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