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Tell HN: Apple development certificate server seems down?

60•strongpigeon•5h ago
I don't see anything on https://developer.apple.com/system-status/, but I haven't been able to install apps for development on my own devices starting at 11AM PDT.

Other people on Reddit seem to be hitting this too [0]. Anyone knows anything about it?

[0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSProgramming/comments/1rq4uxl

Edit: Now getting intermittent 502s from https://ppq.apple.com/. Something is definitely going on.

Comments

xutopia•5h ago
For those wondering why this is a big deal it means that every developers attempting to run a development version of an iPhone, iPad or MacOS app cannot run their apps right now.

This is worse than Github being down and Apple Developers who pay 99$ a year for the privilege of writing software on this ecosystem aren't event getting a status page update: https://developer.apple.com/system-status/

ToucanLoucan•4h ago
Can confirm. Spent over an hour trying to figure out why I couldn't build to devices just to get frustrated, browse to HN, and here we are.

I'm looking for a job shoveling pig shit as we speak.

What genuinely pisses me off is that this isn't noted on their status page, nor is it indicated at all when you, I dunno, revoke and generate certs repeatedly trying to solve a problem you didn't fucking cause.

shagie•2m ago
[delayed]
andyvanosdale•1h ago
It's definitely not worse than GitHub being down...
_heimdall•54m ago
Depends on your priorities. Many developers don't pay for github access, and no one pays github 15-30% of gross sales.
Brian_K_White•30m ago
And a lot more people use github for something at all and don't use Apple for anything at all.

The entire Apple universe is smaller than the world or even just the github part of the world, and the Apple developer universe is a tiny fraction of even just the Apple universe.

cyberax•2m ago
You can still work locally if GH is down. You can even send patches by (gasp!) email for review if you want to do something ASAP.

Apple's servers being down makes it impossible to test your code on your _own_ devices.

strongpigeon•5h ago
I'm getting invalid certificates from https://ppq.apple.com. I think that's probably the root cause?
gt565k•5h ago
Hilarious... their provisioning profile query server has an expired SSL certificate?

Are you serious Apple?

strongpigeon•5h ago
It doesn't look expired per se:

  Issued On Wednesday, January 21, 2026 at 9:47:41 AM
  Expires On Wednesday, February 17, 2027 at 10:28:16 AM
What I get is: net::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID
gt565k•5h ago
Has some undisclosed error.

Says cannot be trusted when validating via SSL checker

https://decoder.link/sslchecker/ppq.apple.com/443

gt565k•5h ago
SSL Error: Verify return code: 34 (unhandled critical extension)
xutopia•5h ago
OMG my app just got rejected because I didn't have the right screenshots to their liking... an app specifically made to remember stuff like this LOL the irony!
astrostl•5h ago
Invalid certs according to what? Quoth Claude Code:

OpenSSL can't validate the cert because it contains a critical extension it doesn't recognize — specifically 1.2.840.113635.100.6.27.3.2, which is an Apple-proprietary OID marked as critical. Per X.509 rules, if a client encounters an unrecognized critical extension, it must reject the cert.

That said, this is likely intentional on Apple's part — browsers and Apple's own TLS stack (SecureTransport/Network.framework) almost certainly know how to handle this extension. It's a private Apple CA (Apple Server Authentication CA) signing an Apple-internal service endpoint, so it's designed to work within Apple's ecosystem rather than with generic OpenSSL.

In practice:

  - Works fine in Apple clients (Safari, curl on macOS using the system TLS stack, iOS apps)                                                          
  - Fails with raw OpenSSL or other non-Apple TLS implementations                                                                                     
  - Not a misconfiguration — it's Apple intentionally using a proprietary critical extension on their private PKI
strongpigeon•5h ago
That's fair. I've never attempted to reach this before so I can't compare and the explanation makes sense.

The intermittent 502s on the other hand are an issue.

gt565k•5h ago
Enterprise apps distributed via MDM & signed using in-house distribution certificates are dead in the water too with the error message "Unable to Verify App" showing on start-up.

Apple's status page is showing no problems (all green).

This is a really bad look for Apple.

ynac•4h ago
Any other services down for anyone? I've had a credit service portal fail for hours today with a notice of server issues. As well as a credit union login with a similar message. These are all first times for me. Some big black cape / hat pressure testing?

[edit] And FreeUSATax portal. Solar cone today?

semtra•4h ago
Bro im tryin to sideload and everytime i try to verify my app it doesnt let me what is even going on like i need my spotify back when will the certificates be back up what else can i use to sideload
erkanerol•4h ago
Why is all green in the status page? Really really annoying.
colinbartlett•1h ago
The Apple status pages (both of them) are some of the worst of the big league offenders, perhaps second only to Microsoft.

Full disclosure, I operate a product that compares official outage acknowledgment to actual outage impact times. (Which I won't mention to avoid self-promotion.)

For this specific incident, I saw the alert come across my Slack at 19:02 UTC. We received over 100 reports of this outage before the official acknowledgement was posted by Apple on their status page at 21:37 UTC.

Shortly after their acknowledgment, the reports fizzled out and then Apple marked the incident as resolved about 20 minute later.

The whole outage lasted about 4 hours from first report to last and wasn't acknowledged by Apple until 3.5 hours into it.

tariksune•3h ago
updated that there was an outage on app store connect https://developer.apple.com/system-status/

edit: working now

avicado0o•3h ago
Finally WORKING!!
strongpigeon•3h ago
Confirmed! Damn that was annoying.
ollin•1h ago
Here was the developer thread https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/818403 I found with lots of other reports of "Unable to Verify App - An internet connection is required to verify the trust of the developer".

Although https://developer.apple.com/system-status/ was green for most of the 3-4 hour outage, the page now at least acknowledges two minutes of downtime:

    App Store Connect - Resolved Outage
    Today, 12:04 AM - 12:06 AM
    All users were affected
    Users experienced a problem with this service.
Not a great developer experience.
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