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Thank you, Ohio cops and lawyers, for bringing this to our attention.
Having had my house raided, I love this. Police incompetence should be exposed at all opportunities with the hope that it makes some small amount of difference to future competence.
In the end, justice and freedom of expression seems to have prevailed, so doesn't really matter what the judge think/thought in the end.
That said, going on stand when your opponent has proven they can and will use your words and actions against you in the court of public opinion is a... bold strategy.
People keep throwing around 'cuck' as an insult, but if trained officers of the law familiar with application of deadly force when necessary can be severely traumatized by the notion of another man sleeping with their wife... Maybe the cucks have been the brave ones all along?
Yeah, it was from "My City Was Gone," which isn't a pleasant song about the state, but pfft, it works here.
That said, I don't disagree with outcome.
Of course this is just based on my anecdotes, but LEOs have some of the thinnest skin imaginable. The first time I fought a grown man was when I was 13 and I had to fight my mother's fourth husband. He was a Deputy Sheriff and combat veteran and that dude had the emotional strength of a 12 year old girl who didn't get asked to the winter dance.
What video is that?
Love me some freedom, sweet soulful music, and pie in the face of bad cops.
Dang/Tom, please don't downrank this. America needs this win.
He beat a civil defamation suit; these cops still know where he lives. Do you think the events of today made them less angry at him?
Separately: saying something shitty or unpopular that you disagree with isn’t someone abusing their rights to free expression. Expressing unpopular viewpoints that others consider abusive is exactly the point of such rights.
There’s a REALLY BIG reason it isn’t “freedom of expression, except for expressing racial hatred”, and it’s not because we like racism. Germany sometimes bans entire political parties that they declare unconstitutional. Now imagine that power in the hands of Trump. You can see what Putin did to Navalny for a preview.
He says, well that was for my protection because they came to my house with AR-15's and turned off the cameras. "I didn't want to get beat up or Epstein'd".
And the lawyer is trying to make that out to be unreasonable, that a black man in the US shouldn't be scared of the police. Afroman just continues to assert that of course he was scared.
I’m not suggesting suspicion has merit, but given all the idiocy I’m wondering what other forms of chicanery may have taken place to get a warrant.
looofooo0•1h ago
This is the video in question, police again falling trap to the Streisand effect.
Mashimo•1h ago
He also has other videos where he calls one of them a pedofile, questioning their gender (Licc'm low lisa) and more.
walletdrainer•57m ago
arianvanp•45m ago
Mashimo•39m ago
yread•21m ago
apparently, the deputy in question has a brother who was a deputy as well but was fired and charged with a sexual misdemeanor against minors.
Afroman also said he steals money during traffic stops and he was accused of that multiple times.
Of course that's not bulletproof evidence but a reasonable person might assume these rumours are not completely unfounded
embedding-shape•15m ago
From all the claims Afroman made, it seems the cop sued because of the whole "He claimed he had sex with my wife, which reflects poorly on me", presumably because he only has a chance to win the suit if there is actual lies. The same video seems to have texts about how he crashed into civilians, stealing pills/money and more, but none of that was brought up in the suit, only the cheating part.
ceejayoz•1h ago
embedding-shape•48m ago
If they never did the raid in the first place, no music video, no "embarrassment". They could have cut their losses, and not made a big deal about it and probably way less people (including myself) would have ever heard about it.
Instead they decided to sue, which made even bigger news. Here they could again have chosen "You know what, maybe this is counter-productive, lets settle/cancel it", and again probably people would have cared way less about it.
Instead, they go to court, make a bunch of exaggerated and outrageous claims, one officer apparently cried as well, all in a public court room that is being recorded, again making it a bigger thing.
Finally, Afroman wins the case, leading to this now seemingly making international news, and the videos continue racking up views.
I know cops aren't known for being smart, but I have to wonder who made them act like this, don't cops have lawyers who can inform them about what is a smart move vs not? Seems they almost purposefully and intentionally tried to help Afroman, since they basically made the "wrong move" at every chance they got.
lenerdenator•42m ago
Generally, municipalities have at least some sort of attorney on retainer for this sort of thing.
Generally. I don't know if that's the case where he lives.
Either way, the police have to be smart enough to listen to that attorney, and have to be given a consequence for not doing so. If you can brush off everything as qualified immunity and say you were acting under color of law while a part of a union that would raise absolute hell for any sort of corrective action taken against you, you might not be introduced to said consequence.
SpaceL10n•33m ago
cucumber3732842•13m ago
Which basically boils down to "when the men with the guns and the violence (or their string pullers)" set down a path nobody is going to say "that's fucking stupid, you're stupid, good luck with that". It's gonna be a bunch of tepid "well the odds are long but here's how you could prevail" type criticism that lets them thing their path of action is fine.
cucumber3732842•31m ago
sneak•19m ago
thinkingtoilet•40m ago
Even worse. Police departments can actively reject you for being smart.
https://abcnews.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story...
(granted this is a one off case, but it is astonishing and speaks to the larger issue)
delecti•31m ago
mwigdahl•29m ago
johannes1234321•19m ago
In this case however the story currently is two times(!) on the front page of haackernews (which isn't a music celebrity gossip site), bringing a musician into spotlight who's career was far from its peak. Hardly any better Marketing campaign one could imagine.
embedding-shape•25m ago
JoshTriplett•23m ago
When you observe someone acting in a way that seems obviously against their self-interest, it is always worth considering the possibility that there's some interest you don't understand...but it's also worth considering the possibility that they're doing a bad job of considering their own interests.
embedding-shape•17m ago
JoshTriplett•11m ago
They assumed they were going to win, and thus enact punishment for questioning their authority.
shadowgovt•5m ago
JoshTriplett•23m ago
One of many aspects of improving law enforcement would be pointedly training out and averting any perception of being "above" people. "Public servant" is a phrase for a reason.
ryandrake•15m ago
macNchz•17m ago
Many states in the US have laws to try to limit them by making them easier to dismiss etc.
delecti•11m ago
echelon_musk•29m ago
I think the never here is a typo.
embedding-shape•24m ago
lukan•16m ago
plagiarist•14m ago
mmooss•3m ago
Was it the raid the choice of the people who carried it out?
> I know cops aren't known for being smart
Not very smart itself. How sad to reduce the whole thing to ignorant stereotypes. Possibly someone in the sheriff's department used similar stereotypes about Afroman, and that's how it all started.
milkshakes•39m ago
embedding-shape•36m ago
No, that video seems to be from 4 days ago, the verdict of the jury came yesterday.
milkshakes•31m ago
hedora•19m ago
They’re facing charges too, right?
Right?
cryptonym•10m ago
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olalonde•4m ago