Juggalo Makeup Blocks Facial Recognition Technology (2019)

https://consequence.net/2019/07/juggalo-makeup-facial-recognition/

95•speckx•2h ago

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pgporada•2h ago

Whoop whoop

schmeichel•1h ago

Where my Juggalos at??

NickC25•1h ago

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, sitting behind the resolute desk. That person wears more makeup than some of the performers on RuPaul's Drag Race.

nathan_compton•1h ago

Don't sully the good name of Juggalos this way.

soopypoos•1h ago

I wonder if I'm more likely to get denied entry wearing juggalo face or classic camo paint

QuantumNomad_•1h ago

Depends. Are you attending an ICP concert, or a military reenactment convention, or something else entirely?

bigfishrunning•1h ago

Miracles all around us

Forgeties79•1h ago

You could throw on the SNL skit or the real video and frankly I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference

refulgentis•1h ago

Clickbait, it’s a couple tweets microwaved and the 3rd paragraph is “well, except for modern facial recognition”

everdrive•1h ago

This feels like the real-life equivalent of that old Family Guy joke where Peter is with a squad of dudes in Vietnam but is dressed like a clown. He says something to the effect of "You guys are stupid. They're going to be looking for army guys." Outside of the absurdity of the situation, the joke is that the guy dressed as a clown obviously stands out even more.

Juggalo makeup might block some facial recognition tech, but you also paint a huge target on yourself.

fer•1h ago

>covering features impacts accuracy of feature-based classifiers

More new at 9. Plus it's from 2019.

Findecanor•1h ago

(2019) ... but sadly increasingly relevant.

ChrisMarshallNY•1h ago

I guess LiveNation won't be running ICP concerts, then...

world2vec•40m ago

They'll just charge an additional makeup fee...

echelon_musk•1h ago

Shamelessly hijacking this story to recommend The Private Eye digital comic [0]. Set in a future where everyone has normalised the wearing of masks in public to preserve their anonymity. The protagonist refuses to get a driving license because he wouldn't want a photo of himself in a database.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Private_Eye

lucasay•1h ago

I’m more curious about how robust this is against modern systems. A lot of newer facial recognition models are trained on occlusions, masks, and heavy makeup — so this might be less effective than people assume.

saalweachter•1h ago

It's not actually an oversight or training failure; as one of the six societies which secretly rule the world, the Juggalos simply demand to be exempt from facial recognition.

atomicnumber3•50m ago

Juggalos, bronies, 9th doctor fans, billionaires, royals (baseball team), and royals (landed nobility)?

stackghost•43m ago

It's likely that e.g. wifi-based gait analysis can be deployed to defeat this.

The only saving grace is you can't run that against video surveillance footage.

mcv•1h ago

Not surprising at all. It's a form of dazzle camouflage that has previously been shown to confuse facial recognition[0]. It's probably possible to design it to be more effective yet less intrusive than juggalo makeup.

I would have actually expected it to be more popular by now.

[0] https://adam.harvey.studio/cvdazzle/

yacin•1h ago

maybe it's just from being covered in Faygo?

alexjplant•40m ago

Faygo is unironically delicious. They used to sell them for $1 a pop (Midwestern pun intended) on the East Coast in gas stations. Diet varieties of Orange, Moon Mist, and Root Beer were personal favorites.

No idea whether this is still the case as I haven't seen them in years.

hackitup7•42m ago

I'll make sure to wear my Juggalo makeup the next time I visit China to avoid their face scanning technology. That'll surely help me blend into the background.

Larrikin•40m ago

In 2018 it was already common knowledge that gait analysis was more accurate than facial recognition at the time. This would have been defeatable then.

beepbooptheory•31m ago

How are everyone's gaits being collected? Is there gait databases at the NSA? Not being skeptical! Honestly very interesting.

nemomarx•14m ago

You could compare gaits between footage of a crime and footage of you in another public place, probably?

I don't think I've heard of it being used though.

a2tech•13m ago

We only have discussions of the Chinese rolling out gait tracking widely. Basically you use existing facial databases to match ids to people in observed areas and capture their gait as they pass observed areas. Then it goes into the database. Using partial matching (non ideal observation of gait or face) allows for greater positive matching in non-ideal circumstances.

water-data-dude•10m ago

Gait recognition is also easier to defeat. All you need is to put something like a few pebbles or coins in one of your shoes

glenstein•9m ago

I think dazzle camouflage is best understood as having limited scope of application as pertains to face recognition. It shouldn't be regarded as failing within its intended scope on account of gait analysis. Everyone knows you have to learn the juggalo dance moves to go along with the face paint.

throwawaypath•14m ago

Did I accidentally sleep in a time machine? Front page of HN right now has articles on Juggalos and Afroman.

oceansky•7m ago

The early 2000s are back baby

gethwhunter34•10m ago

counterpoint: this assumes everyone has the same constraints. not always true

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