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New York City hospitals drop Palantir as controversial AI firm expands in UK

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/26/new-york-hospitals-palantir-ai
129•chrisjj•2h ago

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tombert•1h ago
It seems like letting a company like Palantir anywhere near private medical data is a pretty bad idea. I am happy NYC is doing this.
Manuel_D•26m ago
Palantir builds software that customers use to work with their own data. Custody of the data remains with the customer.

This is like saying a hospital that uses Excel is handing over data to Microsoft.

gullies•23m ago
I heard that they lock data by using proprietary formats. MSFT does not do that.
easterncalculus•18m ago
They literally did. XLS was proprietary until Microsoft completely cornered the spreadsheet software market.
vovavili•18m ago
Locking users behind proprietary data formats is _literally_ the sole point of Microsoft Office.
crimsoneer•5m ago
They very much do not, you can import/export in pretty much any format you want and they've got a well documented sdk.

https://www.palantir.com/docs/foundry/ontology-sdk/python-os...

pvtmert•23m ago
while I understand the meaning here, modern Excel does handover data to Microsoft (via Copilot)...
OJFord•10m ago
And 365 (I'm sure there is an on-premises version, but when not).
Manuel_D•10m ago
Users choose whether to use Copilot, and are free to decline it's use.
guywithahat•17m ago
In some regards I'd almost rather Palantir runs it, since the DoW would force them to implement very strict data isolation features which hospitals could then get for free. I wouldn't imagine Epic Healthcare Systems would be forced to isolate data so aggressively.

That said I also recognize the moral dilemma and understand why they'd pull out. Frankly I'm surprised they did much work with hospitals at all

nradov•12m ago
Most Epic products aggressively isolate data. The majority of instances are run on-premises, and even those hosted on cloud platforms are single-tenant. They have a good record for data security and privacy; afaik all Epic data breaches were actually caused by infiltration of other customer systems.
foxes•7m ago
Do you work for palantir?
willis936•46m ago
Why are so many entities dealing with Palantir? They are a poison pill for customers.
0x3f•35m ago
They don't have in-house talent to implement what they want. The same reasons they used to hire Deloitte/EY/KPMG/PwC. Palantir is one rung up from those places when it comes to talent/ability to deliver.
senkora•9m ago
+1. Think of it like a consulting shop that can deliver customized software instead of just slide decks and excel workbooks.
paxys•20m ago
Palantir is a glorified IT consulting company. You tell them "I want a system to manage patient records" and they will dispatch a team of engineers fresh out of college to build it for you while charging top dollar. They are able to get government & military contracts because of lobbying and influence, but generally everything you see about them online is marketing.
OJFord•5m ago
Cambridge Analytica was a political consulting company...
nradov•10m ago
Which customers? Outside of the HN bubble, very few consumers know or care which entities are using Palantir.
varispeed•38m ago
"controversial"

Everyone knows what's going on, but also everyone is too afraid to stand up for some reason.

Manuel_D•28m ago
What is going on?
user3939382•32m ago
NYC schools just passed some AI guidelines as well. No training on student PII data, no final grades, etc. Unfortunately that's a pinprick for the behemoth.
payphonefiend•30m ago
Their main product is just consulting and PowerBI but for government. So much hysteria online!
danny_codes•13m ago
Their CEO is a crazy person who seemingly wants to tear down democracy
newfriend•4m ago
Wants to tear down democracy = "doesn't support my chosen political party"
llm_nerd•7m ago
Hysteria? Have you listened to Karp? Palantir pushes some pretty shit-tier BI noise to clueless executives (it's actually uproarious the mythology that has built around that company), and this weird creep talks like they're the masters of the universe.

Thiel is another incredibly bizarre creep, and he sits as the chairman of the board. Both are very tightly associated with the Trump crime syndicate and the US government, which increasingly is the world's #1 threat, and should be treated as equally dangerous.

infinitewars•26m ago
J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel's Palantir is reportedly getting the software contract for control of Golden Dome, an orbital weapon system built by Elon Musk.

A weapon system capable of targeting any person on Earth controlled by a mass surveillance company. Wonderful.

paxys•17m ago
I'd be concerned if any of the parties involved were halfway competent. This is a grift for taxpayer dollars, nothing more.
nottorp•17m ago
Palantir is an AI firm now? Thought it was a data collection/spyware firm.
easterncalculus•11m ago

  spyware
Why is Palantir a spyware company, but Snowflake or Databricks are not? "Spyware" has an actual definition, and there are real companies that sell it, like Pegasus. It's not some catch-all term for what people call "evil".
natebc•5m ago
If they're not a spyware company then they really super duper picked the wrong name. Maybe they were just going for evil, in which case ... well I'm glad NYC hospitals have dropped them and I hope many, many more companies and organizations choose the same path.

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