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Running Tesla Model 3's computer on my desk using parts from crashed cars

https://bugs.xdavidhu.me/tesla/2026/03/23/running-tesla-model-3s-computer-on-my-desk-using-parts-from-crashed-cars/
183•driesdep•2h ago

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owenthejumper•1h ago
Could 'lb' be load balancer?!
trsohmers•1h ago
It actually stands for "lizard brain"... it is (or at least was) an Infineon Aurix control and monitoring microcontroller, they may have changed to a newer one.
LikeBeans•1h ago
Very cool. Over a year and a half ago I installed a towing brake controller in my Tesla Model Y. Found the location of the plug, how to access and the pinout online (confirmed via a voltmeter..) so the car's side felt straight forward. But then I needed to find a brake controller that can work with the higher voltage (14.4v vs the normal 12v). Then built a cable from the brake controller to the connector that plugs into the car that I found on eBay. I velcro'd the controller under the dashboard. It works pretty well. I towed my small camper several times with it last year with no issues. Yay! However my little project is nothing compared to this post. Love people hacking away. So cool.
ferongr•1h ago
>then I needed to find a brake controller that can work with the higher voltage (14.4v vs the normal 12v)

Put a voltmeter on the battery terminals of a regular car at 2000rpm and note the voltage. You'd be surpised (the alternator can produce as high as 15V on some cars).

AlotOfReading•47m ago
Automotive transients can be wild. I did a bringup with a board that had specified 100+v range specified for transients and finicky quality requirements on the output. The power supplies took up most of the (very large) board.
silisili•1h ago
> But then I needed to find a brake controller that can work with the higher voltage (14.4v vs the normal 12v)

Not understanding this sentence. Most running ICE vehicles product closer to that 14.4 than 12v. I think a standard controller would have worked fine?

serf•1h ago
you're correct. a '12v ICE' alternator generates up to 14.8-15.2v. Most automotive stuff can operate between 9ish-16ish-v , of course totally depending on the product.

of course this is just a modern interpretation. older stuff runs at 6v and some weirdo offbeat cars have a 24v/48v rail sitting around somewhere. Cop cars often had alternators that put out weird voltage ranges for certain equipment, or dual 12v for high amperage output.

londons_explore•1h ago
Whilst cranking, an ICE car will drop to around 6 volts (then maximum power is extracted according to thevenim's theorem).

That means all computers etc will work at 6v.

toast0•45m ago
> Whilst cranking, an ICE car will drop to around 6 volts (then maximum power is extracted according to thevenim's theorem).

> That means all computers etc will work at 6v.

Not necessarily all of them. Plenty of stuff will drop out while cranking; hopefully not the computers that run the fuel injection and ignition, though.

bluGill•34m ago
The specs say no less than 6volts. In the real world when the temperature drops down to -70F or colder and batteries get old the voltage goes well below that: deal with it.
kube-system•20m ago
Even just a "12v" automotive battery itself is mostly dead if if actually reads 12.0V. Fully charged is around 12.6 or 12.7. If a car had an electrical system that actually ran at 12 volts, the battery would always be dead.

"12v" in reference to anything automotive is very much a nominal reference.

LikeBeans•32m ago
You are probably right. Surprisingly the first controller I tried didn't work. I assumed the voltage was too high since it worked in my other (much older) car. I found a reference online of people that tried a particular brand/model and that's what I went for. Thankfully my car isn't the model with the internal 18v battery.
anigbrowl•1h ago
I have no wheels and I must drift
MengerSponge•1h ago
Fun linguistic quirk: Americans tend to call it a "wiring harness", whereas Brits prefer "loom"
Dan_-•51m ago
So what do you call the tubing around the wire bundle? That’s what we call “loom”.
stackghost•12m ago
In Canada we generally call it the sleeve, or the wrap.
MengerSponge•6m ago
I'd understand either of those, but I'd go with "tubing"

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/c/electrical/wire-cable/tubing...

girvo•1h ago
It's funny to hear LVDS be described as an "automotive" cable when all of my run-ins with it are for connecting laptop displays to their main-boards! (though that has a very different connector on it, and its a very general term for the signalling protocol from what I remember)
inamberclad•54m ago
SpaceWire is also just LVDS with an uber-minimal routing protocol. It runs on a lot of satellites.
slfnflctd•51m ago
Not saying there's anything wrong with your perspective (lots of terms get in muddied waters, it's common and not a problem if everyone is on the same page), but this is what I just found on Wikipedia:

"Early on, the notebook computer and LCD vendors commonly used the term LVDS instead of FPD-Link when referring to their protocol, and the term LVDS has mistakenly become synonymous with Flat Panel Display Link in the video-display engineering vocabulary."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-voltage_differential_signa...

girvo•42m ago
Yeah I saw that too which is why I posted my comment, it's surprising to me :) LVDS for display cables was an incredibly term in that context. Even still is sometimes despite them mostly being eDP (embedded-DisplayPort) now, which is quite incorrect hah
dogman1050•1h ago
I love that it has a standard RJ45 ethernet connector.
bombcar•58m ago
I thought I saw an HDMI connector, but maybe I was wrong.
inventor7777•54m ago
Ha! Reading this comment made me curious, so I went back and looked at the article and there does seem to be a full sized HDMI connector. I wonder if it is enabled, or just for Tesla internal testing?
flutas•17m ago
It's only a debug port and not actually HDMI signaling, unfortunately.
wds•33m ago
How many PoE adapters would it take to charge a Tesla?
MBCook•7m ago
Mostly depends on how fast you want to charge.
kube-system•59m ago
> Turns out that actual cars don’t have individual cables. Instead they have these big “looms”, which bundle many cables from a nearby area into a single harness. This is the reason why I could not find the individual cable earlier. They simply don’t manufacture it.

I was really surprised to read this at the end of the article -- how could someone be this deep into a project of this depth and not realize this?! Not only because all cars (...er... all vehicles) are wired this way, but also because the documentation they were referencing has plenty of detail to show this... there's even a whole picture of it (and to Tesla's credit they have amazing free docs): https://service.tesla.com/docs/Model3/ServiceManual/2024/en-...

entropie•11m ago
> how could someone be this deep into a project of this depth and not realize this

I think this is a software guy who occasionally dips into hardware things (to hunt bugs).

kube-system•8m ago
That's what I figure -- but it was wild to read that after reading the part about component-level PCB repair lol
MBCook•8m ago
I will say I’m surprised how far apart the two boxes are in the car. I guess they’re not where I thought. I would assume they’re both up near the dash.
caycep•31m ago
Granted, I think it would be valuable to look at all sorts of automotive ECUs. I always wonder how the tuning industry does their thing; I shudder to think they're just sitting there flipping hex codes directly in running software...
bluGill•29m ago
I used to work for a company that made third party scan tools. We had racks of ecus disconnected from the car with just a diagnostic connector and power. nothing got to a real car without first trying it on the rack. I remember on time we figured out a bmw (pre obdii) had the bytes offset from the standard documentation (it was a semi-standard protocol that some other cars used at the time), we went from we communicate but nothing is wrong to a very long list of dtcs on that controller. (All our competitors also showed nothing wrong, but the official bmw tool showed dtcs)
kotaKat•25m ago
I'm amused reading the terms and requirements the author mentions in the bug bounty program for researchers gaining root access (under 'Vehicle Targets') - https://bugcrowd.com/engagements/tesla

"To promote further security research, Tesla offers security researchers the opportunity to retain root access on their infotainment system even after their reported vulnerability has been patched. In order to qualify, a researcher must send in a valid report describing a novel way to gain root access on a Tesla infotainment system. Upon confirmation, Tesla will instruct the researcher on how to use their existing root access to enable the researcher SSH feature, along with an SSH certificate for the researcher's public key (tailored to their specific hardware ID). The certificate restricts SSH access to the local diagnostic ethernet link. Tesla may renew the certificate as long as the researcher continues reporting vulnerabilities."

Very neat.

denysvitali•13m ago
You can run QtCar (the Qt-based app that Tesla uses for their UIs) on QEMU - if you have the firmware.

https://x.com/i/status/1722717318009041104

DM me if interested

rconti•9m ago
I _do_ find it weird that the LCDs from crashed cars are so expensive. I wonder if newer models have better screens, so people with older cars upgrade? Or if they're a common failure point?

I have a Model 3, but I can't say I follow the forums.. but I've never heard of screens failing -- I'm sure it happens but I think if it was common problem I'd have heard of it.

kube-system•6m ago
I'd guess they fail not on their own, but because they are human interface devices and take the brunt of abuse... e.g. iPhone screens are a popular repair despite being reliable components.
denysvitali•3m ago
Some newer models have better (bigger) screens, and some are incompatible since they've slightly changed the connector. Old models (pre highland/ jupiter facelift) have used the same display shown in the article for a very long time across M3 and MY. What usually happens is that they physically break because people are not that careful, so the touch screen ends up breaking - although you really have to put a lot of force to break that display.
a-dub•8m ago
i wish the ui on those things was more visually appealing. between the cheap looking gloss finish on the display itself and the unextraordinary ui, it's just kinda blah. one can have a debate about to screen or not to screen or whether to use vfd displays or whatever and i get the importance of cost control but it should look good and it really doesn't. the graphic of the car looks like a cartoon.
0xbadcafebee•3m ago
[delayed]

Running Tesla Model 3's computer on my desk using parts from crashed cars

https://bugs.xdavidhu.me/tesla/2026/03/23/running-tesla-model-3s-computer-on-my-desk-using-parts-...
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