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What's Missing in the 'Agentic' Story

https://www.mnot.net/blog/2026/04/24/agents_as_collective_bargains
43•ingve•1h ago

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cramsession•59m ago
> You bought a laptop or desktop with an operating system, and it did what it said on the tin: it ran programs and stored files.

I feel like people may be viewing the past with rose colored glasses. Computing in the 90s meant hitting ctrl-s every 5 seconds because you never knew when the application you were using was going to crash. Most things didn't "just work", but required extensive tweaking to configure your ram, sound card... to work at all.

amelius•54m ago
This is not just the past. I still have headaches configuring my video card to work with the right CUDA drivers, etc.

The tower of abstractions we're building has reached a height that actually makes everything more fragile, even if the individual pieces are more robust.

kirubakaran•52m ago
We just need one more layer of abstraction to fix that, and everything will be fine
willmadden•28m ago
I'm vibe coding this presently. Update soon.
hnav•54m ago
Quality issues are a different vertical within the space of software/user misalignment. The sort of issue the author talks about is more like the malware of the 90-00s era: the software deliberately does something to screw the user.
6keZbCECT2uB•50m ago
I remember when the computer crashed and the user hadn't saved recently, we blamed the user.
Groxx•17m ago
It's sad, but they should've compulsively hit save after every few letters - it's documented very clearly on page 404 of the manual. It's a real shame that such things couldn't be done automatically until recently, early-2000-era CPUs just weren't sophisticated enough to run advanced, reactive logic like that.
jjmarr•9m ago
My parents indoctrinated me as a child to constantly hit save because they grew up with that. It was a part of our cultural expectations for "basic life skills to teach children".
echelon•49m ago
> Computing in the 90s meant hitting ctrl-s every 5 seconds because you never knew when the application you were using was going to crash.

THIS.

I lost so much work in the 90s and 00s. I was a kid, so I had patience and it didn't cost me any money. I can't imagine people losing actual work presentations or projects.

Every piece of software was like this. It was either the app crashing or Windows crashing. I lost Flash projects, websites, PHP code.

Sometimes software would write a blank buffer to file too, so you needed copies.

Version control was one of my favorite discoveries. I clung to SVN for the few years after I found it.

My final major loss was when Open Office on Ubuntu deleted my 30 page undergrad biochem thesis I'd spent a month on. I've never used it since.

algoth1•29m ago
Open Office on Ubuntu 11.10 user here. I can confirm it froze frequently and you would lose everything. it was incredibly frustrating
borski•40m ago
Wait, I literally still hit Ctrl-S constantly, usually a few times in a row.

Have people outgrown this unnecessary habit? Haha

algoth1•34m ago
Manually editing config files thanks to an obscure thread so that your printer can actually be recognized by the OS
mikert89•23m ago
alot of software engineering, especially in complex systems, is still just tweaking retries, alarms, edge cases etc. it might take 3 days to even figure out what went wrong
justinclift•20m ago
> Computing in the 90s meant hitting ctrl-s every 5 seconds because you never knew when the application you were using was going to crash.

That was in the Windows world. Maybe in the Mac world too?

No so much in the *nix world.

Windows seems to have improved its (crash) reliability since then though, which I suppose is nice. :)

jrm4•19m ago
Still though -- once you got a workflow, no matter how terrible, it strongly tended to continue to work that way, and it was still much easier to diagnose, fix, and just generally not have unexpected behavior.

This is the issue; agents introduce more unexpected behavior, at least for now.

My gut is that always on "agents who can do things unexpectedly" are a dead-end, but what AI can do is get you to a nice AND predictable "workflow" easier.

e.g. for now I don't like AI for dealing with my info, but I love AI helping me make more and better bash scripts, that deal with my info.

moralestapia•15m ago
Hmm ... no?

I used computers back then and many things just worked fine. I found Windows XP way more predictable and stable than any of its successors.

nacozarina•14m ago
lol be honest that lunacy was unique to Microsoft, never had to do that with FrameMaker on SunOS
_puk•4m ago
And then having to learn ctrl-q the minute you started working in the shell..

Muscle memory is a bitch!

cyanydeez•51m ago
i think whats missing is the raison detre of the Agents isnt a new usecase, its a context prune for the same limitations LLMs provide. LLM as Agent is a subset, where the goal of the agent is set by the parent and is suppose to return a pruned context.

if you dont recognize the technical limitations that produced agents youre wearing rose tinted glasses. LLMs arent approaching singularity. theyre topping out in power and agents are an attempt to exentend useful context.

The sigmoid approacheth and anyone of merit should be figuring out how the harness spits out agents, intelligently prunes context then returns the best operational bits, alongside building the garden of tools.

Its like agents are the muscles, the bones are the harness and the brain is the root parent.

ryandrake•37m ago
The thing I don’t like about “agents” is that I consider my computer a tool that I use and control. I don’t want it doing things for me: I want to do things through it. I want to be in the driver’s seat. “Notifications” and “Assistants” and now “Agents” break this philosophy. Now there are these things doing “stuff” on my computer for me and I’m just a passenger along for the ride. A computer should be that “bicycle for the mind” as Jobs put it, not some autonomous information-chauffeur, spooning output into my mouth.
aykutseker•32m ago
been building on claude code for a while. the post's framing is right.

mcp gives you open standards on the tool layer but the harness (claude code, cursor) is still proprietary. your product is one anthropic decision away from breaking.

the user agent role the post calls for needs open harnesses, not just open standards. otherwise we end up rebuilding mobile under a new name.

phillc73•22m ago
These are already available. Mistral’s Vibe CLI[1] is open source. Tools like goose[2]are API agnostic.

[1] https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe

[2] https://goose-docs.ai/

aeon_ai•15m ago
The most important thing we can do for AI to be a net positive to society is to ensure that its loyalty is to the user, and not the state.

There is no legitimate intermediate position - The skew will go one way or the other.

ArielTM•14m ago
The browser analogy holds because publishers wanted browsers. Sites lived with User-Agent and robots.txt because the click paid for it.

AI agents are the destination. No return click to bargain with. That's why Cloudflare just went default-block + 402 Payment Required instead of waiting on a standards body.

Open standards on the agent side are the easy half. Getting sites to show up is the part W3C can't fix alone.

tpurves•13m ago
The conceptual problem is that we keep wanting to compare AI behavior to that of traditional computers. The proper comparison is comparing AI, and how we trust or delegate to it, to the concept of delegating to other humans or even to domestic animal. Employees can be trained and given very specific skills and guidelines but still have agency and non-deterministic behavior. A seeing eye dog, a pack mule or chariot horse will often, but not necessarily always do what you ask of them. We've only been delegating to deterministic programmable machines for very short part of human history. But ad human societies, we've been collectively delegating a lot of useful activities to non-perfectly-dependable agents (ie each other) for a very long time. As as humans we've gotten done more that a few notable things in the last several millennia with this method. However, humans as delegates or as delegators have also done a lot of horrific things at scale to, both by accident or by design. And meanwhile (gestures broadly around everywhere) maybe humans actually aren't doing such an optimal job of running and governing everything important in the world?

When compared to how human make a mess of things like in the real world, how high does the bar really need to be for trusting AI agents. Even far shy from perfect, AI could still be a step function improvement over trusting ourselves.

givemeethekeys•2m ago
A very talented junior employee that you can't trust with the keys.
zby•11m ago
I like how the author notices that it really got a start with cloud computing.

Niri 26.04 was just released (scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor)

https://github.com/niri-wm/niri/releases/tag/v26.04
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What's Missing in the 'Agentic' Story

https://www.mnot.net/blog/2026/04/24/agents_as_collective_bargains
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