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OpenAI CEO's Identity Verification Company Announced Fake Bruno Mars Partnership

https://www.vice.com/en/article/openai-ceo-identity-verification-company-fake-bruno-mars-partnership-mistaken-identity/
137•BoggleOhYeah•1h ago

Comments

_verandaguy•1h ago
An outstanding move for a company claiming to sell trust as a service.
2ndorderthought•1h ago
The issue I have with it is it's completely unsurprising. They just don't care and are testing the waters with the consequences or the lack thereof for these types of lies. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
3form•1h ago
Reminds me of bunch of cases of high-profile people testing the waters of the low-quality Twitter posting.

Turned out you can ride far not only despite it, but also thanks to it.

abirch•1h ago
Offtopic but you've triggered my rant

What is frustrating to me is the IRS was scammed. They sent my refund to some identity thief. This from an institution that if I owed them 10 cents, they could track down all of my financial accounts but they decide to deposit in some rando's account.

2ndorderthought•1h ago
Sorry that happened to you, but these verifiers won't solve that problem. It's pretty easy to get a picture of someone's face and irises. Especially once a few more data bases inevitably leak so the government can get the data for free use.
jonhohle•8m ago
Maybe that’s not a good way to verify someone’s identity then…
ectospheno•1h ago
Owing tax each year instead of overpaying solves this problem. As long as it’s less than $1000 you won’t pay any interest or fees.
ralph84•43m ago
That doesn't solve anything when the fraudster is filing a fake return. They are under no obligation to include all of your carefully chosen income and deductions that get you to $1000 owed.
dylan604•10m ago
What? In order to get a refund, that means you have to overpaid what you owe. It's pretty simple. If you are not putting in enough, the fraudster cannot get a refund as you still owe. Like, where is the break down? They would have to know how much you have paid, and then file so many deductions that it'd probably trigger an audit. If you file that many audits not with an account signing off of them, I could only imagine that would trigger an audit as well. Then again, the IRS has been beaten so badly that they barely have enough employees to function.
Mashimo•47m ago
> They sent my refund to some identity thief.

How does that currently work?

In DK they just send it to your "nem konto", the same bank account that also gets your wages. More or less a sym link, so even if you move bank it will follow. Makes life easy.

nemomarx•29m ago
when you file your tax paperwork each year you have to tell them which bank account to send the refund to.

if someone else can file for you they can put in whatever info they like, so.

ryandrake•7m ago
In a sane world, this would just be a case of fraud between the IRS and the fraudster, and the person whose information was used would have nothing to do with it. It's unfortunate that we have this need to call it "identity theft" in order to try to shift the responsibility to some unrelated third party.
hvb2•34m ago
I mean, the US is the country that doesn't want a national id.

So instead the defacto ID is your SSN. This was never designed with that in mind, lacks all security mechanisms/checksums and all.

And if you were born before a certain time, all digits except the last few were determined by where you were born. And those last digits are the ones they frequently ask for...

This is all just choices guys.

mentalgear•1h ago
Sam Altman: the CEO of companies selling 'Intelligence' and 'Trust' (... me Bro) as a service.
camillomiller•1h ago
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is Sam Altman’s unfettered attention to quality and details. This one is up there with Palantir in the list of companies that I hope will soon fail miserably and painfully.
sumeno•1h ago
Hopefully Sam follows in the tradition of other transformational tech figures, like Sam Bankman-Fried and Elizabeth Holmes
blitzar•1h ago
Palantir are a lot of things, incompetent they are not.
sjsdaiuasgdia•1h ago
Yes, they're fascist. Or at least Alex Karp is.
tyre•1h ago
People I’ve spoken to in DoD strongly disagree with you there.
amuradbegovic•53m ago
What are their complaints?
Lionga•1h ago
Scam Altman doing Scam Altman things
chaostheory•1h ago
They didn’t get scammed. The CEO just didn’t know the difference between 30 seconds to Mars and Bruno Mars.
sigmoid10•1h ago
TL;DR: Some random marketing writers confused Bruno Mars with Thirty Seconds to Mars (with whom they actually have a deal).

Still hilarious given the company's mission, but the comments here make fun of the wrong technological aspect.

throwatdem12311•1h ago
lol a mixup with Jared Lego’s band “30 Seconds to Mars”

> “You’re right, I got these two artists mixed up because of the name. I’m really sorry” — ChatGPT

dylan604•9m ago
Damn, I guess I've always been confused. I didn't realize the toy building blocks company was called Letos.
benwad•5m ago
Seconds later:

> OpenAI CEO's company announces partnership with The Mars Volta

steve1977•1h ago
Hallucinated a partnership...
renegade-otter•33m ago
That may be true. If they use LLms to write up all of their internal documents, it may have just pulled a "partnership" out of thin air, and no one bothered to check. "I guess we have one!"

Brought to you by - Looks Good To Me(tm).

Mashimo•1h ago
> Tools For Humanity is actually partnering with Thirty Seconds to Mars on their 2027 European tour. While TFH has not disclosed the actual reason for the false Bruno Mars announcement, it looks a bit like a case of mistaken identity. Pretty ironic, since the company’s whole shtick is supposedly verifying human identities.

:)

semiquaver•1h ago
How could this mixup possibly lead to the head of product announcing a Bruno Mars collaboration on stage???

I’m trying to imagine the series of events that could lead to this happening and I’m coming up woefully short.

mattas•1h ago
This really sounds like an AI voice agent transcribed "Thirty Seconds to Mars" to "30 seconds for Bruno Mars" and then no one actually proof-read the thing.
Mashimo•50m ago
Probably like the children game "Broken Telephone" or "Gossip" where after a long chain of word of mouth input does no longer match output. Sprinkle communication between different companies on top of that.

Thirty Seconds to Mars -> "The Mars band" -> ?? -> Bruno Mars

konschubert•47m ago
Four Seasons Total Landscaping.
cowsandmilk•43m ago
I routinely have to correct product managers repeatedly on key details of how their products work and how their customers operate so this doesn’t surprise me at all. It is totally a mistake I could see a product management director having been corrected on a dozen times but they keep making it.
sophacles•40m ago
It's a simple tale, one as old as time - the religious scammers started believing their lies and drank the kool-aid.
alqpejfjfb•10m ago
It’s hard to spin it as a mixup when both acts were announced at the event.
oersted•37m ago
Quite reminiscent of the "Four Seasons Total Landscaping" debacle :)
Lionga•1h ago
You are right to call that out. Do you want me to remove all the press releases over the internet of our fake partnership with Bruno Mars?
jacquesm•52m ago
Perfect - I have removed all of them. Once again, I apologize I should have been more careful. I've also erased the database and the email server on the off chance that any trace of this remained there. And no need to worry about the backups, I got those too.

I can modify the script to make this sort of thing easier to do in the future. The change is minor and it can be quite revealing. Would you like me to do that?

Fokamul•55m ago
OpenAI should partner with Kanye West.

Fitting partnership. They should call it Hitler Brotherhood, or something like that.

Maybe even Thiel would join and others.

rvz•48m ago
You all just got rage-baited here. One side of this story is not telling the truth.

Don't fall for it.

gblargg•33m ago
And the article doesn't even say it was fake, just a likely error.
cryptonym•24m ago
rage-baited? I think it's pretty clear to everyone they did a mistake due to lexical proximity with their actual partnership.
danans•47m ago
As funny as this is, there is a serious side. This is a case of an unintentional hallucination propagating and amplifying through human social and incentive structures. This is also how probably how religious miracle stories work.
hansmayer•45m ago
Is anyone even surprised at this point? Probably a long chain of AI-"summarised" emails flowing back and forth.
thevillagechief•37m ago
Lately I’m realizing what an absolute drain imposter syndrome is. I see things like this and I think maybe I could jump three levels up into a completely different department and be just fine, at least for a while. Then maybe fail up?
sergiotapia•17m ago
History belongs to the people who show up.
ryandrake•13m ago
Most of us here could easily do the day-to-day work of the CEO of our companies. Somehow we have adopted this corporate mysticism that tells us that people with CxO or SVP in their titles are somehow smarter, more skilled, more qualified than the rank-and-file, but I don't think it's true. They eat and shit just like we do.
M3L0NM4N•10m ago
Experience is probably (at least should be) the differentiating factor.
Foobar8568•6m ago
Network and social status is more important than your experiences.

And media loves outliers or bullshitting on the self made part.

RaftPeople•4m ago
> Most of us here could easily do the day-to-day work of the CEO of our companies.

I'm not so sure about that.

When I do a thought exercise and put myself in our CEO's shoes, I think "ok, which decisions do I need to make today to keep the company thriving in the next 3 or 5 or 10 years?"

For me personally, I don't really know. You can't just do the same thing because the economy is constantly evolving, but I can't see where it's going.

bee_rider•9m ago
You might not have the right core incompetence here. Like could you have honestly (from your point of view) reported that you had a Bruno Mars collaboration? You might have double checked.
ghoulishly•21m ago
“OpenAI CEO's Identity Verification Company Announced Fake Bruno Mars Partnership” the english language is rapidly running out of brand new sentences.
allears•14m ago
Not a problem! Move fast and break things! Disruption, baby, disruption!

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