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Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

https://old.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/1t5qayz/chrome_removes_claim_of_ondevice_al_not_sending/
112•newsoftheday•1h ago

Comments

avdelazeri•1h ago
And right after https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48019219 huh
baq•12m ago
Taken completely by surprise, no one could have predicted this /s
askonomm•1h ago
I mean to be expected of Google. Even their Google Pay sends data to their servers whenever you use it to make payments, effectively also making it so you can't even use it without service. Apple Pay does not, runs the whole thing on-device, and not only is private, but as a result also enables payments entirely offline.
gchamonlive•27m ago
Maybe it sends the payload after coming back online, but for I can for instance leave with only my galaxy watch 6, which doesn't have esim, and I'm able to make payments as long as I connect it with my phone before leaving the house.
waterloser•6m ago
If your phone doesn't have connection does it still work on your galaxy watch? Or if you leave the phone behind?
jazzypants•6m ago
I'm willing to bet that it's just for telemetry, but this kind of stuff just lends credence to the crazies claiming Google wants to create some kind of absurd botnet with people's devices.
fsckboy•3m ago
>Apple Pay does not, runs the whole thing on-device

so when I use the physical card that is also on Apple Pay, and Apple Pay tells me I just made a transaction as if I had used Apple Pay, that is all happening on my device? what online service is my phone using to track my account with Visa or my credit card issuer, and it's polling or push?

jcgrillo•53m ago
They're probably doing some degenerate form of [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_computing

jeffcox•52m ago
As soon as "don't be evil" became a topic for debate it was over, if you're surprised you haven't been paying attention.
ChrisArchitect•48m ago
Google weighs in on Chrome's weights.bin controversy https://www.androidauthority.com/google-chrome-weights-bin-f...
ChrisArchitect•44m ago
Al or AI?
ulfw•31m ago
It's Google. It's AIs
greenavocado•34m ago
Temporary escape hatch: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
SunshineTheCat•26m ago
I know that I'm in a bit of a bubble with this one, but I am surprised there is still anyone using Chrome instead of Brave. I get the dependency on Gmail other Google-specific tools, but the built-in ad blocking and Google-free aspects of it made me switch instantly and haven't look back after years.
Markoff•5m ago
why would you use brave with annoying crypto and no customization over superior Vivaldi?
ifh-hn•5m ago
I'm similar but instead of brave, which I don't trust, prefer Firefox.
jeffgreco•4m ago
I was very vehement about needing to stay in Chromium — until I tried Zen browser and it turns out I didn’t! (Unless I wanted to watch Prime Video)
newsoftheday•4m ago
My theory is that, since I'm going to do things like banking in my browser, I want one that has a lot of skin in the game. Chrome being backed by Google has trillions of dollars on the line should they ever do anything truly evil. Though this sneaky 4GB download comes close.
ScoobleDoodle•21m ago
For someone with more knowledge than me: How does this affect other Chromium based browsers?

I did some web searches and see Brave has its own AI thing “Leo” that is intended to preserve privacy. But I don’t think that is on device. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

I use Firefox myself but have family and friends who use various Chromium based browsers.

Thank you.

pier25•15m ago
Also, does this affect Chrome for iOS, Android, and iPadOS?

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