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Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain

https://fredchan.org/blog/locality-domains-guide/
135•speckx•1h ago

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uneekname•1h ago
See also: http://nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us/locality.html

Edit: already linked in the article! That's what I get for not reading to the end!

odie5533•43m ago
Seems like the primary use for locality domains is to explain to others how to get locality domains.
cj•1h ago
> The only place I could find that provides free nameservers for non-top level domains

I'm guessing Route 53 is also an option if you don't want to go through Lightsail.

Edit: Although Route 53 will cost a few cents per month.

cormorant•59m ago
Some similarities to *.<lastname>.name -- one of which is that the Public Suffix List thinks you're part of a single site with others you have no control over. Another is the weird registration procedure, but this one is weirder!
beezle•41m ago
I had one, registered I think in 1991, back in the uucp bang days. Had to give it up due to changes in requirements and IIRC Nustar being a real pain. Would like to get it back but no desire to jump through hoops to do so.
TrevorFSmith•39m ago
Definitely keep in mind that right or wrong, these hosts are unusual as far as most commercial services are concerned and it can reveal annoying edge cases in their software.
kiddico•37m ago
Seeing the *.k12.oh.us in the delegated subdomains brought me back to highschool. When I was little I always wondered why the city name was before k12. Didn't know it was structured like that everywhere.
anamexis•15m ago
School districts are often supersets of municipalities.
runjake•13m ago
This is the correct answer.

From RFC 1386, Section 3.3.1:

  "Public schools are usually organized by districts 
  which can be larger or smaller than a city or county."
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1386#page-12
MithrilTuxedo•10m ago
mayo.k12.sc.us was my high school. It seems a shame they're not still using it.
thrill•33m ago
Aren’t there several states that have the same city name repeated within the state? I think there’d need to be a county delineator here too.
TallGuyShort•30m ago
That gets extremely complicated. My town straddles the border between 2 counties. And you can't trivially have subdomains for counties and cities at the same level, because Wyoming has a Laramie city but it's in Albany County, not the neighboring Laramie County.

Did this just inspire the next "Falsehoods programmers believe about... Federalism"?

wat10000•20m ago
Virginia cities are independent, not within counties. And there's both a Fairfax City and Fairfax County. Making things even more confusing, the county seat is Fairfax City despite the city not being part of the county. The county has fairfaxcounty.gov while the city has fairfaxva.gov.

There are a handful of other independent cities in the US, but the vast majority are in Virginia.

runjake•27m ago
You're right, but typically, when two towns in a state share a name, only one is an incorporated city at most. The other, or both, are usually unincorporated communities. Normally, unincorporated communities do not receive a city.state.us locality domain.
tialaramex•25m ago
If you have hierarchical naming, which DNS does, then the problem of name clashes is always a problem for whoever sits above those names and they can resolve it however they like.

If your state thought it was a good idea to have two cities named "Star City" that's on them to resolve however they like. Trial by endurance for the city mayor? Draw lots? Everybody in the state votes? Not my monkeys, not my circus.

dawnerd•26m ago
I want to set one up now and use it to call out the city board members taking kickbacks from flock.
pugworthy•22m ago
This is probably not the kind of approach to taking out new domain names you should encourage. A lot of other causes might think this is their way to set up an "official" representation of their strongly held political beliefs, and I think you can imagine where that might go with some groups.
vasco•10m ago
"Don't use your free speech because other people might use theirs in ways you don't like"
prepend•15m ago
Why would city board members care what your domain name is?
dawnerd•6m ago
Oh they probably don't. But it might annoy them slightly if the foia docs were hosted there.
CalRobert•25m ago
Seeing the list of contacts for delegated subdomains reminds me of a time when there were a lot more local ISP's. Inreach.com for Stockton, lodinet (possibly an ISP?) for Lodi..

But the one that really shocked me was https://www.snowcrest.com/mysc/ - which seems to still be up and running?? I wonder if the login page for webmail (ISP-provided email was a thing! And even hosting space!) still works.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090909141302/http://neustar.us...

_joel•23m ago
And now it's getting well stress tested
CalRobert•22m ago
Maybe you should try one of the other numbers at https://www.snowcrest.com/dialup/numbers.php - most support v.92!
Bender•22m ago
Will WHOIS requests leak my address?

Nope. Even though you must supply your address in the registration form, a WHOIS request for your locality domain will only show information about the registrar.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding their statement but unless something recently changed this is not true. The .US TLD does not permit whois privacy services. The full legal name and address of the registrant will be shown in my experience and I could not find a registrar that would deviate from this.

That is why I opted for .org for a small town that I operated a website for in my spare time. When using a .US one can register it in the name of a company or the city can register it themselves through their own government to avoid a persons personal information being listed. Ensure auto-renew is enabled when assisting a city government as people come and go. Pay as far in advance for as many years as possible.

pmcgoron•8m ago
> FL HOTDOG.MIAMI.FL.US. arodriguez@houseit.com

I'm very confused by this entry. There isn't even a miami subdomain, just a Dade subdomain.

aquir•5m ago
I wish there would be something like this in the UK but with county instead of state. E.g. swindon.wiltshire.uk or sheffield.southyorkshire.uk

Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain

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