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Power Tools Got Worse on Purpose. Who Owns DeWalt, Craftsman, and Milwaukee?

https://www.worseonpurpose.com/p/your-power-tools-got-worse-on-purpose
79•prawn•2h ago

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zulux•37m ago
For us US folks, Amazon.jp will send you the unobtanium Makita tools you know you want.... like the Makita battery-operated microwave.

Shout out to TTI for keeping Ryobi cheap, cheerful, and a good value. Not my cup of tea, but their stuff is reasonably fine for the price.

hyperbovine•24m ago
The Makita US product line seems ludicrously big to me. I don’t really get what this article is throwing down when it comes to Makita.
zdragnar•3m ago
My (not battery) Makita chainsaw is fantastic, and I have definitely put it through its paces.
deadbabe•17m ago
What’s a good one to start with
wojciii•5m ago
I have Makita products .. a lawnmower and a bush clearing tool ..somewhat expensive, but the quality is superb.
happytoexplain•3m ago
I had no idea I was missing out on anything - their product line is big even in the US. Our battery tools are 100% Makita (except the lawnmower - I forget what made me decide on EGO, but I've been happy with it).

Anyway, I'm glad to see an article claiming that Makita has still resisted enshittification.

jader201•34m ago
Not sure where “Who Owns DeWalt, Craftsman, and Milwaukee?” in the title came from.

> Please don't do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or saying how great an article is.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

bariumbitmap•16m ago
The <title> tag in the HTML has it: <title>Your Power Tools Got Worse On Purpose | Who Really Owns DeWalt, Craftsman, and Milwaukee?</title>
jader201•14m ago
I wondered if that was it (I’m on my phone).
joe_mamba•33m ago
Same with all consumer white goods electronics: microwave ovens, washing machines, refrigerators, toasters, etc. most white label by a few conglomerates with the same Chinese factories.

The "high quality ones" that have their own R&D and manufacturing, are very expensive and out of reach for a lot of people.

Papazsazsa•32m ago
The bottom line is that you can also compete by investing in quality.
Arubis•26m ago
I don’t know if it’s by LLM generation or just contemporary style, but I find the style of omitting the subject from sentence after sentence after sentence unreadable. Once is fine. Six in a row is insufferable.
analog8374•25m ago
Tangentially, Arrow T50 stapler used to be a tank but now it's wet shit. Apparently they changed to a new factory.

So when your reputation is big you can slack on the product. Or is that naive? Is it the natural progression for all products?

Like in that movie Brasil. The food is awful but the illustration of the food is wonderful.

hyperbovine•24m ago
Old ones sell on eBay for not a lot.
analog8374•19m ago
I'm looking at some modern ones. Bostitch or whatever.
jmclnx•21m ago
Good example of what Private Equity did and doing to many industries. I also notice once a PE Firm takes over a Company, kiss quality good bye.

They mentioned Eye Wear is next, I think the author can guess where that is going. No reason to doubt the same will happen to that industry too.

abfan1127•17m ago
seems like a good business model to watch where PE is moving in. Start investing in quality designs while PE drives quality down, then sweep in and be the "quality amongst trash" brand.
senordevnyc•17m ago
I feel the same, but I do wonder sometimes if that’s true. Are there PE firms out there quietly operating great businesses that they’ve acquired? If not, why not? Surely in the long run that’s a better ROI, and private capital should be able to take a longer view, right?
randcraw•5m ago
> Surely in the long run…

And that's the rub. PE is all about short term ROI at any price. Their business model doesn't take product superiority or brand loyalty into account. If a widget can be made cheaper, you do it, damn the collateral damage.

infecto•3m ago
In reality that absolutely is part of the equation though.
infecto•4m ago
For every one public headline failure there are hundreds of profitable executions that never get mentioned.
flanked-evergl•19m ago
I recently decided I will go for the cheap Chinese store brand power tools for most things. It's about 1/5 to 1/3 the price of Ryobi, gets really good reviews, have been sold for more than 10 years now with the same batteries, and comes with a 5 year warranty which is 2 years more than ryobi. It's maybe not going to last 10 years, but at 1/5 the price it does not have to.
sedawkgrep•7m ago
I think the rule of thumb for non-professionals is:

Buy cheap and if you use it enough that it breaks, buy expensive the second time.

jeffbee•4m ago
By following this rule you could easily end up with a tool that lasts forever but strips out all your screw heads.
delichon•16m ago
> Ryobi handles DIY at Home Depot. Milwaukee handles pros. The two brands don't eat each other. They serve different people at different price points with different expectations

So market fit is driving both worse and better products at the same time. Cheap DIYers like me are buying the cheapest stuff we can find, and complaining that it's as cheap as its price. My neighbor the contractor buys the expensive stuff and finds that the quality at least somewhat reflects that.

Worse on purpose is my fault, because I'm the guy who bought a cheap Ryobi saw, instead of none at all. Plane flights are worse because I'm the guy who buys the cheapest ticket and tolerates the resulting discomforts, instead of staying home. You can see that through the lens of greed and exploitation, or as just a market evolving to supply consumer demand.

jlglover•11m ago
Ryobi make mostly good tools though. The results produced by most Ryobi users, myself included, are limited by user skill not tool quality.
jszymborski•7m ago
What are my options if I'm one of the unwashed massed that aren't able to afford anything but Ryobi/Spirit (RIP)?

What if I'm a professional who needs to use Milwuake/American Airlines if I plan to get my work done?

These feel like choices in the same way you can choose to pay your extortion fee to the mob or choose to pay your taxes.

legitster•5m ago
I don't think there's anything to apologize for.

Buying a professional tool with tens of thousands of hours of potential runtime and 1000lb+ of torque is wasteful.

A Ryobi tool will realistically last for the many decades you need it for and do everything you ask of it.

Lower price points doesn't just mean something is junk. It can also be engineering efficiency.

mghackerlady•14m ago
Snap-on stays winning
infecto•7m ago
Snap-on is one of the worst value buys out there. Even for professional mechanics.
jcattle•14m ago
> The pattern

> This isn't a tools story.

> The names change. The industries change. The strategy doesn’t.

The pattern

This isn't an insightful blog.

The names change. The topics change. The slop doesn’t.

awkwardleon•9m ago
FWIW these worseonpurpose articles have been popping up regularly, consistently accused of being slop, and the purported author has been called out as a Palantir AI shill. e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47779481
0xbadcafebee•9m ago
[delayed]
legitster•7m ago
The big thing that happened to power tools was Lithium-Ion batteries. All of these companies competed when they were still corded electric tools. You could just make a really good drill or saw or router.

Interchangeable batteries got really good and made every set of tools a platform. More importantly, there are only a handful of sources to get batteries from. For all these companies to differentiate and compete they needed to insert their products into wide lines of platforms.

DeathArrow•2m ago
>These companies prove the same thing from the opposite direction. You don't have to get acquired. You don't have to take the PE money. You can just keep making good products and telling everyone else to go to hell. It's harder, and it's slower, and the growth chart won't impress a Wall Street analyst. But the tools last. And the brand means something 50 years from now instead of ending up in a clearance bin.

How can we convince business owners to take this path? It seems in a future everything will be owned by a few megacorps and crappyfied.

analog8374•1m ago
FTA : The tool companies that are still good. Klein, Makita, Knipex, Channellock, Hilti, Bosch.

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