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I’ve joined Anthropic

https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/2056753169888334312
325•dmarcos•1h ago

Comments

rvz•57m ago
The big question is... Why now? What happened to Eureka Labs?

Maybe the IPO potential was just too great to ignore and maybe AGI (A Giant IPO) is around the corner.

reducesuffering•48m ago
AGI around the corner. Comparatively little point educating people instead of machines
whywhywhywhy•15m ago
If someone knew AGI was around the corner they'd be buying an island and a yacht not taking on a job.
f311a•46m ago
Pressure, a lot of researchers believe LLMs will be able to self-improve. It's a good time right now to make some extra money.

I, personally, don't think there will be a better time for researchers to make so much money in a few years in any future of LLMs.

enraged_camel•56m ago
Pretty big talent win for Anthropic. Karpathy is one of those people who was working on AI before it became "a thing," and he's definitely both a thought leader and influential practitioner today.
wood_spirit•56m ago
https://xcancel.com/karpathy/status/2056753169888334312
Barbing•52m ago

  Andrej Karpathy - @karpathy

  Personal update: I've joined Anthropic. I think the next few years at the frontier of LLMs will be especially formative. I am very excited to join the team here and get back to R&D. I remain deeply passionate about education and plan to resume my work on it in time.

  May 19, 2026 · 3:05 PM UTC
yanis_t•52m ago
Good for him. His learning materials are unmatched, but I don’t think there was a viable path with his educational company.
aizk•52m ago
AI news and ESPN feels interchangeable sometimes.
ssgodderidge•49m ago
Agreed! OpenAI even bought TBPN [1], who many have equated to ESPN for business. I think that even if Karpathy didn't add any new ideas to Anthropic (unlikely), adding him to the team is an interesting message to give to the market

[1] https://openai.com/index/openai-acquires-tbpn/

Danox•23m ago
Maybe he adds some semblance of stability? Anthropic probably is trying to sell it itself as the sane alternative to OpenAI with their IPO coming up choose us we are responsible.
clickety_clack•48m ago
I’ve never seen names be big in the industry in this way before. It used to be founders, now it’s personalities.
TeMPOraL•12m ago
At least in this case we're talking about someone doing something useful and providing tons of value to the field, not about people being praised for starting a company and raising money.
sph•7m ago
I'll reserve judgement until I've heard what ThePrimeagen and simonw have to say about this.
bitwize•43m ago
But you won't be stuck in Bristol, CT covering AI news.
mupuff1234•36m ago
Wouldn't be surprised if companies with too much "superstar" talent suffer from the same issues as sport teams usually do.
drewbitt•29m ago
At least with sports teams they entertain me and I can be a fan. For "X person joins Y company" I don't have a reason to care.
Danox•21m ago
But with the financial community, some semblance of stability is always important particularly with an IPO coming up. Choose us we don’t have a sideshow going on with Elon like the other guys, OpenAI.
DANmode•14m ago
I’m the opposite.

My “entertainment”, or intrigue, comes from the ability to impact my life.

Other people sporting struggles to catch my attention longer than the play itself, for that reason.

zibw•23m ago
relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIZt9YPAPZo
sph•9m ago
That's exactly where my mind went. ~113 comments at the time of writing to discuss an announcement that a guy is starting a new job.
dwa3592•50m ago
Karpathy is talented and to me he always seemed like someone who would be against building something like skynet. Anthropic is lucky to have him.
cute_boi•17m ago
Honestly, if Skynet were possible, Anthropic would probably build it first and claim they had to because OpenAI is bad.
scottyah•7m ago
Anthropic has drawn lines with the most powerful organization in the world, that OpenAI capitulated on within hours for a small contract.
NitpickLawyer•3m ago
And then regulatory capture it to death. Seriously, Anthropic is top notch in their coding models, but they are not the good guys in the tech vs. product for humanity's sake debate.
amazingamazing•49m ago
Money always wins.
bell-gwen•44m ago
True.
Sol-•43m ago
Come on, he definitely has more money than he needs given his past employers. For someone with his creative output, he probably just enjoys having an environment to build and explore.
moralestapia•32m ago
Your argument contradicts itself.

If money was not an issue he could just build that environment for himself.

CooCooCaCha•24m ago
Do you have any idea how much it costs to build a frontier model and how much money it takes to enable R&D at the cutting edge?
HDThoreaun•20m ago
No, money is not the only barrier to building things. I think karoathy could build his own lab if he wanted, but it would be years of doing things he doesn’t want. Why waste time running a business when he’d rather be researching?
0123456789ABCDE•16m ago
i can play by myself, or i can join some friends, and make the play more joyful
skeledrew•9m ago
The overhead of maintaining and running things isn't interesting to most creative folk. They'd rather others deal with the minutiae (managing a company, etc) so they can focus on their thing.
resiros•38m ago
I don't think this is true. He strikes me as a person motivated by curiosity and interesting problems.
lucketone•30m ago
Still, one can buy lot of interesting problems with that money.
martingalex2•24m ago
It's the only way he could get more tokens beyond the Max 20x plan lol.
United857•5m ago
As a OpenAI founder he already is long past the point of money being a consideration.
bell-gwen•45m ago
Well, I am listening.
ryeguy_24•42m ago
Funny. He foreshadowed this in a recent interview. Saying that he may fall out of touch with evolving approaches and if any of the frontier labs would have him, he’d be interested.

https://youtu.be/kwSVtQ7dziU?t=47m50s

skeledrew•15m ago
Someone at Anthropic watched and lit a fire.
markerbrod•40m ago
I wonder what will happen with EurekaLabs now. I checked their X account, but the posts are now restricted. However, the background picture... that old AI-generated image feels surprisingly cringe (https://x.com/EurekaLabsAI/header_photo), incredible how much GenAI has improved since that image was created.
bilsbie•40m ago
He should have done his own lab. He seems like someone capable of it and might bring some unique ideas.
JumpCrisscross•38m ago
> He should have done his own lab

Which raises the question: what can he do at Anthropic that he couldn't on his own?

TrackerFF•33m ago
Seems to me that you need incredible amounts of money to be competitive in the frontier model arena. I don't know how much money Karpathy has to spend, but I'd imagine that the money needed would almost certainly mean investors with deep pockets.

And then there's the uncertainty, will the AI "wars" be some winner-takes-all situation? Will the smaller labs eventually be acquired by the bigger ones, will they simply wash away if there's a crash?

I don't know. If you can land some exceptional gig at the big firms, maybe the financials are good enough to not start your own lab. Minimizing risk, and all that.

EDIT: Assuming such a startup would focus on frontier models.

JumpCrisscross•30m ago
> you need incredible amounts of money to be competitive in the frontier model arena

This is my assumption.

> there's the uncertainty, will the AI "wars" be some winner-takes-all situation? Will the smaller labs eventually be acquired by the bigger ones, will they simply wash away if there's a crash?

He's Andrej Karpathy. He could wait to let the winner surface. Obviously better to get in with the winner earlier. But worse to get on the wrong team versus on the right team late.

skywhopper•24m ago
Make a lot of money.
Aboutplants•35m ago
Two years ago I’d agree, now he probably wants access to the immense capacity they have where if he were to start a lab from zero now, the ramp up to frontier pushing would require a lot more time. I don’t he needs the money as it is, and wherever he were to go would certainly make it worthwhile financially. Some people may just be cool with a couple hundred million dollars in their lifetime
gk1•35m ago
It’s not enough to have unique ideas. You need capital, compute, people, distribution, customers… There’s huge appeal to joining a place that has all those things and lets you pursue your unique ideas without worrying about all that.
amunozo•25m ago
I'm pretty sure Karpathy can have billions of capital if he wanted to.
ciwrl•40m ago
very interesting news... we are living in exciting times.
Traster•38m ago
Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly game of trying to buy up the names like trading cards but I wonder what this turns into.
prodigycorp•34m ago
i wouldn't be surprised if he just becomes a glorified marketer for anthro.

im also going to guess that whatever research he does would be free roam research that primarily serves to market the fact that claude was able to help perform the research.

the visible stuff he's been working on has been mostly agent soft skills. off the top of my head is autoresearch and his the wiki knowledge stuff. nothing particularly groundbreaking, but has helped devs expand their understanding of the utility that these models can provide.

not a diss to andrej i know he's reading this now

canada_dry•24m ago
> just becomes a glorified marketer

That implies Karpathy is either dumb or desperate and he is neither of those by a long shot.

prodigycorp•23m ago
i mean he did publicly openly solicit interest to work at a frontier lab so he can be closer to what's going on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwSVtQ7dziU&t=2870s
shuckles•19m ago
No it doesn’t? It matches his skills to the lab’s needs. Karpathy is a media personality, manager, and educator far more than he is a hands-on researcher.
piker•19m ago
Being a singular influencer in this space, at this time, may be more valuable than a lot of successful VC-backed startups over the last few decades.
afavour•19m ago
I don’t think it does. I think it’s better phrased that he is marketing rather than a marketer. He can do whatever he wants to do, in return Anthropic gets to say “hey, this guy works with us!”
ghaff•14m ago
Different people have different wants and needs. It's perfectly reasonable to work on some interesting projects and to be something of a figurehead.
kmaitreys•19m ago
> https://gist.github.com/karpathy/442a6bf555914893e9891c11519...

Last thing I saw Karpathy talk about was this, which I find hard to believe that it came from a smart person.

carterschonwald•13m ago
oh my, i see what youre saying. at this point youd hope everyone has realized that the best way to keep models more reliable is to force them to stay honest via very very string static typing as a feedback loop. bags of text with hyperlinks certainly fail that measure
coldtea•18m ago
Greedy is enough. Neither dumb nor desperate needed for this.
resiros•16m ago
I think you are underestimating both the value of both projects (autoresearch and personal wiki) just because they are simple. I see both POCs for continuous learning / optmization on the harness layer, which in my opinion is a very interesting direction.

I think Andrej has the experience (and now ressources) to productionize their research into something very interesting.

prodigycorp•14m ago
oh no i think you are misunderstanding me. i'm thinking right along the lines as you. andrej running the latest models and having some say in post-training is going to yield some return. he has definitely been on the forefront of shaping the idea of agents.
DiscourseFan•10m ago
No, these are developed off of the assumed uses of the models (predictive autofiller) rather than their actual, cognitive and potential industrial use (developing large scale frameworks for industrial production, automating systems that normally require human monitoring), and uses that we have not yet discovered, because we have not figured out all the constraints and limitations of these models. If Karpathy was in the game like he used to be, he would be on real product. Right now he’s probably so lost by the very thing he helped create that he is stuck doing these mini projects for his own personal interest, without anyone really critically engaging with his work.
outside1234•33m ago
DevRel or whatever we call that now
pier25•28m ago
> He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point

Sorry I'm out of the loop... What inflection point are you referring to?

nashashmi•20m ago
The inflection is Right before its meteoric rise.
shuckles•18m ago
GPT-1 presumably, which was released a year after he left. Prior to focusing on GPT, OpenAI was pursuing a lot of research directions.
helloplanets•18m ago
Karpathy left OpenAI in 2017 for Tesla, came back from Tesla in 2023 and left again in 2024.

So pretty sure the original poster is talking about 2017.

Veserv•28m ago
I mean, you would think that all those people he killed as the person in charge of deploying knowingly dangerously defective self-driving software for profit would have had a impact. But executives seem to just skate on killing customers to line their own pockets these days. Just "following orders" I guess.
Barbing•14m ago
He deployed, not just developed?
redanddead•26m ago
Idk. I read this as a bad sign for Anthropic. OpenAI’s hiring recently has been much stronger, the guys have actual taste. I don’t know Karpathy personally, I won’t speak bad about a man I don’t know.

Regardless of what Anthropic’s share price is, OpenAI has been fucking killing it recently. I don’t take particular pleasure in saying that.

misiti3780•26m ago
really - what am i missing?
redanddead•25m ago
It just feels like more hype instead of product focus.

Example 1, just from top of my mind, Composer 2.5 released today. Go look at their benchmark.

Composer 2.5 and Opus 4.7 ranked around the same, meanwhile gpt-5.5 was miles ahead.

You wouldn’t have caught me dead using a gpt model 2 years ago

j_bum•25m ago
Curious what you mean by killing it? Products? Model quality?
redanddead•19m ago
Dude, both! Codex is going to eat Openclaw… i don’t love saying that.

What codex is a few steps away from doing is changing fundamentally a lot of workflows.

Remote codex with their computer use is basically you at your computer doing things, 24/7.

Then they added gpt images 2.0

what codex can do, in a few more iterations of codex, is show you visually side by side “would you prefer this (A) or that (B)” in a series of questions. This was what some open source researchers have been up to. That’s no longer guessing.

I’m not trying to hype a company i have no stake in, but they’ve been killing it.

scottyah•10m ago
Codex and openclaw are both "owned" by openai, and most of the features have been in claude code for awhile now.
redanddead•5m ago
To be fair, Claude Dispatch was really cool. I had to wait a good 3 weeks for Codex to come out with remote
vondur•20m ago
It feels like these companies are constantly going back and forth on who has the best product constantly. It's such a dynamic time with how fast they are both working.
felixgallo•19m ago
Out here in the actual demonstrated world, OpenAI has been leaking quality people like a sieve, has not yet demonstrated anything remotely similar to 'taste', and is led by a sociopath (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may...), so I think you can rest easy.
redanddead•5m ago
I totally agree with you. It’s why I said it brings me no joy

Tbf though, I think it’s disingenuous to say “in the real world” to an actual user. How did you mean that?

sigmar•16m ago
>OpenAI’s hiring recently has been much stronger, the guys have actual taste.

Can you cite specifics? "I won't speak bad about someone, but also won't speak good about others" resulted in a comment that seems to contribute nothing

scottyah•15m ago
OpenAI seems to be dumping a LOT of money into marketing on social media at least.
redanddead•6m ago
I’ve been using Claude and Codex extremely heavily and use adblockers so I don’t see them
nashashmi•15m ago
Some people are good at developing the sciences. Others are good at developing commercial products.

And tesla is not a good place for science development. Tesla is structured from narcissistic mindset: results driven, cynical, and position-based. This doesn’t bode well for long term sciences.

I dont see how he could be helping anthropic

423abaf•34m ago
He is citing R&D? I have always been under the impression that he is an image recognition etc. expert rather than an LLM expert.

So, does Anthropic pivot to military tech or pretend to do so before the IPO?

Or is this simply a deal where he uses his formidable influencer skills for Anthropic and gets to cash in on the IPO?

ryzvonusef•32m ago
Karpathy's career arc feels similar to Jim Keller's; a butterfly flitting from one flower to another, gathering experiences and creating magic everywhere they go.
ambicapter•29m ago
I don't think Karpathy has nearly the portfolio of accomplishments. I think of him more as an educator.
mellosouls•26m ago
Karpathy is a terrific communicator and populariser of the LLM landscape, and I do hope this isn't going to mean his work in that regard now gets dropped, or dropped into a private Anthropic-only void.
bicepjai•21m ago
Great communicator. It’s sad that he had joined a closed llm org. I would have expected him to join forces with someone else releasing open-source models rivaling chinese model landscape. Capital always accumulates to the capital holder in capitalism :)
frellus•19m ago
Sort of makes me sad, but . . . everyone has a price.
helloplanets•13m ago
Not about money, but knowledge. The frontier of the field is no longer accessible through arXiv or research papers only.

One thing is that the companies are holding on because of competitive advantage, and I think another is that AI is such a politically polarizing topic that actually being open about everything is risky for the companies, wanting to avoid controversy.

LatencyKills•12m ago
I worked for MS and Apple for 20 years and heard that opinion constantly; i.e., "People only work there for the money."

I have no idea if Andrej "sold out" but perhaps he realizes that if he wants to work on the cutting edge alongside talented people, with a seemingly endless budget, Anthropic is a good choice.

I chose my employers for the same reason; the compensation was secondary.

stephc_int13•15m ago
I have been impressed by some of his work, especially on the vulgarisation and simplification. Excellent communicator and engineer. But I am a bit more skeptical about his taste and vision.

Leaving OpenAI to work for Elon Musk was a poor move, and AFAIK his work on CV at Tesla did not bring anything groundbreaking, unfortunately probably the opposite (the bet on camera-only driven system did not pay off) and his talks about the approach would indicate that his whole idea to make it work was nothing more than hill-climbing.

Also, his over-reaction to the whole Claw thing was a bit ridiculous, in my opinion.

I don't see him as a Scientist in the field, but more as an efficient tinkerer.

ausbah•10m ago
i think his “fame” in the past few years has been creating teaching materials, projects, etc with lots of nuanced informative takes around the LLM space
ai_slop_hater•13m ago
My personal update: just quit playing modded Minecraft. Thinking of downloading Apex Legends. What is everyone doing?
christkv•12m ago
Somebody got showered with stock options.
richard_chase•10m ago
This guy is the next Ted Bundy.
gyomu•4m ago
We are in the early stages of AI. Anthropic is Altavista and OpenAI is AskJeeves or something. 10-20 years from now the scene will be unrecognizable and all of this will be inconsequential but at the same time it is the fondation on which tomorrow is built.

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