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Magic the Gathering format: Fun 40

https://fabiensanglard.net/mtg/fun//index.html
25•ibobev•1h ago

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Noumenon72•1h ago
What is all this talk of "Candy"?
fabiensanglard•52m ago
Beta cards or non-white borders
pimlottc•36m ago
minor suggestion: Make the deck images clickable to view full size, to be able to read the cards better
indoordin0saur•59m ago
Random fact that I learned recently but I find it interesting: the create of MTG is a direct descendant of a US President. President James Garfield was his great-great grandfather.
Pikamander2•2m ago
Huh, the more you know. I've seen Richard Garfield's name mentioned a bunch over the years, but somehow I've never seen this fact brought up before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Garfield

mattbettinson•57m ago
I love 40 card MTG. It's one of my fav ways to play. If you play a bunch of games in a row with someone it starts feeling like chess, much more deterministic when you're used to their deck. Getting two foundations boosters and shuffling them is such a great way to play. I'll definitely take a look at this
esrauch•55m ago
"Moxes/Sol Ring. They are a nice touch if not found in abundance."

Seems odd when followed by every 40 card deck having all color-relevant moxen and sol ring...

zeafoamrun•49m ago
What I've done a couple times but it is kind of a pain because it messes up the sorting of my collection is to make "packs" out of my collection and draft with friends. It's a lot easier to just buy a booster box and draft from that. But at least with old cards you don't have to contend with Sephiroth, the Ninja Turtles, and My Little Pony.
KolmogorovComp•35m ago
> But at least with old cards you don't have to contend with Sephiroth, the Ninja Turtles, and My Little Pony.

I thought you were joking, unfortunately you weren't. Money really has no taste.

latexr•8m ago
On the other hand, the Final Fantasy set release was the most fun I’ve had at a pre-release event. Personally I’d have preferred Dragon Quest with some sweet Toriyama art, but you take what you can get. I met people who had stopped playing MTG decades ago but came back for the pre-release to see some of their favourite characters. Good conversations. I’ll also say that while in the big scheme of things of course FF MTG was a financial decision, the bulk of it felt like a labour of love in the sense of “how can we translate this FF idea to MTG” with some awesome results. Cards like Overkill¹ and the concept of summons² (a mix of creature and saga). They also made sure there was something for every one. All FF were represented, go get your favourites.

I didn’t attend the TNMT pre-release but had fun speculating on e.g. what colour would each turtle be. Within the constraints, I think they got it right. I’m curious about Star Trek too. I can imagine four or five legendaries for Rom³ (a secondary character) alone and they could all coexist.

So yeah, they’re doing it for money and I do think there are too many of them, but at least they’re not half-assing it every time and are letting the designers really work with the possibilities. There’s only so much you can do with a generic fantasy setting.

¹ https://scryfall.com/card/fin/109/overkill

² https://scryfall.com/search?q=%28type%3Acreature+type%3Asaga...

³ https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rom

latexr•27m ago
Check out the Cube Draft format.

https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Cube_Draft

quora•20m ago
This is a pretty common format called cube.

You can grab a list from somewhere like cube cobra. Buy the cards, or use an online draft tool or print a bunch of proxies and play. Its a fun way to play with cards that are just sitting in bulk boxes and play without having to buy a whole booster box

zeafoamrun•17m ago
Hmmm sounds cool, I had heard about this before and since forgotten. I think part of what I would like is to give some of the old and weird cards in my collection some play though, rather than just playing a well known cube- but then if they're too weird they might not work at all together.
latexr•2m ago
Don’t fret too much about it. I have a cube and it’s mostly a random collection of cards a friend and I had. Just separate the colours into roughly equal stacks and make sure each has a reasonable ratio of creatures to other spells plus a workable mana curve.

Play a few games and you’re bound to start finding combinations of cards you never thought of before. Then after a while you can tweak it if you find something is too unbalanced. For example, in an earlier version of my cube, enchantments were disproportionately busted, so we removed some and added some more removal.

One house rule we have is that if you pick a dual land (we just have the cheap ones), at the end of the draft you can exchange it for another from outside the cube that matches the colours you’re actually playing.

jbverschoor•48m ago
FUN? How can it be fun without discard and land destructie?

Sounds like Gen-Z mtg

yifanl•45m ago
Including Moxen and no hand interaction is certainly a choice. The Battlecruiser to battle all cruisers.
naravara•14m ago
I was about to say, it may not be fun for YOU to not be able to play any spells but making you submit by choking you out is fun for ME. Prison decks were always my jam.
mrbluecoat•45m ago
That's what I love about MTG - the flexibility. For example, here's a new format I created to help even the playing field with new players: https://mrbluecoat.blogspot.com/2026/05/new-unofficial-mtg-f...
dfxm12•42m ago
It's light on details for talking about a "format". How many cards were in each packs? Did players get just one, or were many distributed to players? Were they randomly put together or seeded in some way? Was there a thought around rarity distribution like normal packs?

On the topic of fun 40 card decks, after my partner and I thoroughly (winston) draft through a bunch of packs in a set, I like to make a battle box of a few 40 card decks which are more coherent than the average limited deck.

I think people get too hung up on the formats in sanctioned tournaments. People says "magic is expensive", but that's not true! Modern decks in the metagame are expensive. You can play magic on the cheap an infinite number of ways. There's near endless opportunity for replay value in 3 packs per person!

fwip•35m ago
Just as a heads-up for non-magic players, each of those 40-card decks contains several multiple-thousand dollar cards. I wouldn't be surprised if those 240 cards cost over $50,000.
havblue•33m ago
That looks really fun, the problem being deck assembly. My issue with modern magic is the complexity of the ever-changing rules and playing against people who have put time into it, that laugh maniacally as they combo you. The asymmetrical play makes board games more appealing.

I especially love the art and simplicity of revised and third editions.

dfxm12•27m ago
New rules were always added to each set. I do think deciding on a common "power level" is an issue in casual play. To that end, the commander team set up power level brackets to categorize your decks. This is one of the reasons I like limited though, or if deck building seems daunting, jump start.
embwbam•23m ago
I don’t play much, but some people who play the “commander” format build decks that are carefully balanced against each other. My buddy and I had a blast collecting most of the Lord of the Rings set and playing games of Hobbits vs Sauron, Gandalf vs Galadriel, etc.

That’s how I first played it when I was 14 too. My friend hand a deck of each color and we just took turns playing them.

You might be able to find someone who has built 4 balanced commander decks and you can just play

packetlost•15m ago
I play casually on rare occasion and mostly play unmodified or very slightly modified pre-constructed commander decks. Best way to play casually IMO.
Pikamander2•5m ago
> What is fun?

> Here is a list of things that make a game of Magic The Gathering fun to us.

> No Discard. It sucks to have no spells to play.

> No Land destruction. It sucks to be unable to cast spells.

I've always enjoyed these kinds of house rules that let you customize TCGs to your own liking.

A while back, I bought a bulk box of common Pokemon cards and put together some decks where I limited the cards to basic or stage 1 Pokemon, no high-impact coin flips, and a single EX card per deck. I found that setup to be more enjoyable than the official format.

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