I'm not, but is it yet possible to use the Vision Pro as a window manager for macOS? I'd totally get one if it were possible to lay out ordinary macOS windows in space rather than being confined to the simulation of a single rectangular screen.

So I was, for about a month. But I had to give it up due to, mainly, compatibility with MAM requirements for work and app quality. It’s so infuriating to me how good this hardware is yet how equally underinvested it is.

I do enjoy it when I’m in a work type that is well supported.

I would love deeper integration with macOS beyond just screen sharing too. Or alternatively a broader selection of native equivalent apps.

There also seems to be an odd standoff between Apple and the streaming apps, eg no native YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, etc. Not that it impacts work, but it impacts consumer adoption.

I’m very curious how this new era of Apple will respond…

Next thread’s the winner, for sure.

Edit: Being serious…the big players have all began taking AR seriously verrry recently.

Now they need to release hardware.

Is Apple Vision Pro still alive, or is it on life support?

AI is soaking up all kinds of capital, even money that used to go into VR.

I do 4 hours a day minimum. Typically the first part of my day where I tend to have no meetings and can wear it uninterrupted. I’m sure I can get the virtual persona working in Meet and Zoom but I don’t want to creep anyone out.

I’m in Ultrawide at 4k via a MBP or a Mac Mini. Wireless keyboard and wireless mouse. Typically multiple Ghostty windows open, an IDE, and a web browser with a bunch of tabs.

If I have a podcast, YouTube or music playing in the background I do so via the AVP directly via the native app.

Though I like virtual environments I don’t use them much. The amazing pass through (I have a Quest 3 and it’s not even remotely comparable) allows me to feel like I’m still IRL and be aware of my surroundings. And to see and interact with my wife who’s also remote if she happens to pass by. This need to touch grass is the same reason I typically don’t wear AirPods while in them. You can really get sucked in with virtual environments and AirPods on.

No eye strain issues. Have had 20/20 my entire life and a year in still 20/20. We’ll see. It does get a little sweaty/heavy. I have the Apple double knit and the CM Global or whatever it’s called.

I do have a decent office monitor setup with a 43” OLED and LG Dual-ups. I don’t use it much since getting the AVP as I like moving around the house.

I don't own Apple Vision Pro, but I tested them two times already and I'm amazed by the technology. I honestly think it's the future. We're probably WAY too early yet, and the Vision Pro might fail badly, but it is indeed the future.

I did a special test session in Japan for "productivity" (the guys at the Apple Store were very friendly and agreed to let me install VSCode and Ghostty on the testing laptop. I cloned an open source repository and spent ~20 minutes just coding.

It was FANTASTIC. The Apple Store was full and I could still "black out" the noise and completely immersed myself in the experience.

I'm seriously considering buying a pair now, but I'm just concerned about the under-investment in the sector.

Regardless, I honestly think it's the future, maybe in 10/20 years, but it'll be the norm.

I'll work for 4+ hours straight in my Vision Pro when I'm on a plane or train, but when I'm in a less cramped place I'd rather just use a normal screen

I'm curious if anyone is using the competing Samsung Galaxy XR headset with similar display resolution as a monitor replacement also.

I think of the AVP like Steve Jobs once described: headphones for video [0]

I use it a few hours a day, a few times a week exclusively as a virtual display for my macbook.

Being able to put a huge virtual monitor anywhere is the killer feature and I don't tend to use it for anything else. It's indispensable on flights where laptop lids can't even fully open.

Apple got the interactions just about perfect for AR window management, etc.

Of course the main drawbacks are the weight, size, and overall embarrassment from having a giant face computer strapped to your head.

I don't find it very comfortable for more than a couple hours at time, at least with the solo knit band + the belking head strap. I'd like to get a dual knit band at some point.

But when this sort of hardware gets miniaturized I think many people will prefer it to hunching over a laptop screen. Just like headphones, wearing glasses while typing at a black screen could signal "Do not disturb, I'm working here"

[0] Steve Jobs on Virtual Reality (D3, 2005) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQECSInWVPY

I already don’t own an AVP and look forward to not buying the next gen one either