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EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/04/finland-stubb-eu-canada-turkey-norway.html
26•leopoldj•1h ago

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pjmlp•1h ago
This makes as much sense as having Australia on Eurovision.
SyneRyder•52m ago
I had to upvote this, even though I'm loosely connected to various people involved in Australia being part of Eurovision :)

You do know Eurovision Asia begins this November and was announced as part of the telecast? And that Canada is expected to be part of Eurovision next year?

(Yes, I do know you were making a joke and don't particularly care! ;) )

threatofrain•35m ago
I thought the Eurovision was just some musical comedy thing. Why not include Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjHJneVonE

pjmlp•16m ago
It says right there in the name.
comrade1234•27m ago
Eurovision is for any white country that wants to join. (That's the image at least)
pjmlp•15m ago
Euro....
Markoff•25m ago
well Australia at least shares some cultural values with Europe, while certain genocidal Asian participant...
pjmlp•9m ago
Another one that should not be part, and yet almost won this year, so much for public opinion on those matters.
inglor_cz•1h ago
Knowing when to stop is a non-trivial virtue, unfortunately politicians love to build empires.

It would be more natural to add Turkey than Canada, provided that Erdogan dies or otherwise loses power. (At this moment, I don't believe in him losing power peacefully.) At least it is contiguous with Europe and even though majority Islamic, the population isn't fanatic about it and there is a clear cultural continuity with Bulgaria, Greece and Cyprus.

Canada as a EU member makes as much sense to me as Australia or Argentina, so much less.

boxed•46m ago
Turkey is a failed experiment of having an islamic majority nation that is modern and democratic. Ataturk made a really good effort, but I don't think it's coming back from the brink, not until there's an enlightenment in islam or islam just fades away.
seanhunter•43m ago
> It would be more natural to add Turkey than Canada

Yes. In fact we would not be the first to call Turkey “Europe”. In ancient Greece they used the name “Europe” to refer to part of Thrace that is now in Turkey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(consort_of_Zeus)#Conti...

827a•53m ago
Didn’t the UK not six years ago vote to leave the EU? Is he suggesting that there’s demand from Britain to reverse that? Or is he suggesting they be forced to rejoin?
Hamuko•51m ago
Majority support at least.

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52410-nine-years-after-the...

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54567-how-strong-is-uk-sup...

graemep•46m ago
Polls before the Brexit referendum also showed a majority for remaining.
AndrewDucker•40m ago
A few percent either way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United...

As opposed to a 20-ish% lead for Rejoin at the moment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_re-accession_of_the_...

Hamuko•39m ago
0xbadc0de5•49m ago
No thanks. Canada is better off as an sovereign state.
AndrewDucker•42m ago
I'd be happier with expansive trade deals with Canada.
Esn024•39m ago
Maybe they should focus on putting their own house in order first by not making constant self-sabotaging decisions that hurt themselves, benefit the United States, and alienate their other neighbors. The European Union has declined from 30% to 17% percent of world GDP from 2008-2025, three times faster than China's analogous decline at the beginning of its "Century of Humiliation", which took it 50 years from 1820-1870: https://xcancel.com/RnaudBertrand/status/2062096610239082912 But I fear the worst is yet to come, because what's happening has not sunk in yet.

So, despite liking various countries in the EU as places to visit, I have to ask what benefit would Canada get from joining such a structure at this point?

gmuslera•38m ago
At some point they should stop using the European part of the name.
graemep•35m ago
There seems to be no reason given for why this would be good, nor does it address the reasons why enlargement has not happened.

Would people in the EU be generally keen on the largest EU country being a not quite white enough Muslim majority country? Would they like EU borders with Iran, Iraq and Syria?

He implies its the threat posed by Russia. The EU is not a military alliance. There is a reasonable argument that Europe needs a military alliance that is not dependent on the US, but the EU is not it.

In many ways enlargement weakens the EU, as does "ever closer union". Both create more internal division. The UK would not have left if the EEC if it had remained the same organisation it was in the 80s.

josefritzishere•31m ago
Why is this flagged? It's super interesting, the comments are pretty civil and the news source is legit.
krapp•29m ago
"Political" content is the only kind of content for which civility and quality standards aren't applied - such posts are often flagged as a matter of course, simply due to the title alone.
josefritzishere•29m ago
This is probably a response to the collapse of the United States. A bigger EU could easily replace it's hegemony as a bulwark against China and BRICS.
GMoromisato•16m ago
The EU's problem isn't that it's too small--its population is larger than the US already. Its problem is that it's not unified. It can't act as one country the way the US and China can.

The EU works by consensus of its member states. It does not have a strong executive that can, hypothetically, drop bombs on Iran without a vote in parliament. But it also can't defend Ukraine as fully as it needs to.

Russia is economically tiny. If the EU wanted, they could flood Ukraine with enough firepower to reverse Putin's invasion, even without intervening directly. They don't do that because not all member states agree, and without consensus, the EU cannot act.

In some ways, America is the opposite: it acts before it has consensus. One administration invades Afghanistan; the next one pulls out. One administration signs a treaty with Iran; the next one bombs it. It's the move-fast-and-break-things of foreign policy.

China and Russia are dictatorships. They pursue their interests and they act consistently. Despite their economic disadvantages, they get their way internationally because they are not afraid to act.

As an American, I would rather have a strong EU that sometimes disagrees with us, than a weak EU that cedes the field to China and Russia. But a bigger EU isn't the solution. The EU needs to act as one, or it will become irrelevant.

It was a +2 lead for Remain. Not the +21 that there is for rejoining.

https://yougov.com/en-us/articles/15767-final-eve-vote-brexi...

graemep•28m ago
Just before the referendum. The lead at the time the referendum was called was much wider. One poll even had 66% remain in June 2015, while the Referendum Bill was in parliament.
Hamuko•20m ago
Well, I just assumed that when you said "polls before the Brexit referendum" that you mean polls that were made before the referendum, and not when the referendum was called.

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