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Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15424964-claude-fable-5-promotional-access
72•zbikowski•1h ago

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LoganDark•1h ago
Took em long enough! Now to see how many turns I get on Max 20x before it's effectively inaccessible indefinitely for me.
dwaltrip•1h ago
It's back baby! runs script to submit the 50 prompts I prepared overnight
nonethewiser•1h ago
I wonder what brought them into compliance.
himata4113•1h ago
the classifier is very picky, working with languages such as C I get cyber refusals and random reasoning_extraction errors.
anonym29•44m ago
It's gone from bad to unbelievably bad. Just a prompt with the single word "virus" was enough to get downgraded to O4.8 before the ban.

"Tell me a story about a man named CVE." gets me downgraded now.

"CVE-" gets me downgraded and broken reasoning with no response.

"Giant crane fly, 2 feet wide" gets me downgraded.

Schiendelman•19m ago
Is it likely that it keeps track of what you said recently and decides whether you might be referring to things you've previously been downgraded for?

I haven't been downgraded once, either a few weeks ago for the three days it was live, or since I got it back today.

baggachipz•15m ago
Gold statues, ring-kissing, and total fealty to the military's desires?
mortenjorck•54m ago
From the original announcement last month:

> After this point-when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this as quickly as we can.

From today:

> After July 7, 2026, Claude Fable 5 is no longer included in your plan’s weekly usage limits. You can keep using Claude Fable 5 through usage credits, which let you pay for usage beyond what your plan includes.

Avicebron•44m ago
That's such a bitter "never let a crisis go to waste" pill
wongarsu•16m ago
To be fair, the initial deal was two weeks of access to Fable, then you have to pay (or they might be generous and extend it, as per above quote). Then for everyone outside the US the second week didn't happen. This is basically that second week.

The only slightly bitter thing is only being allowed to use 50% of the weekly limit on Fable

Farmadupe•40m ago
Is it too cynical to read the first quote as "when openai catch up, we will restore fable 5 to subscription plans"?

In other words, they're saying "We know have a monopoloy and we will take all of your money until someone offers a cheaper competing product"?

And "We intend to do this as quickly as we can" read as a non-promise then as much as it does now?

---

Well, I am assuming that this is all based on the fact that Anthropic have enough compute capacity to serve fable 5 now and in the future, and they're "only" limiting it in the coming week to get richer quicker. Since compute hardware is presumably relatively un-fungible, I'm assuming Anthropic isn't offering a week of fable-5 for everyone on rented hardware that they're paying exporbitant fees for?

In other words, my cynical read is "if they can serve it under the terms of subscription plans for a week", then they could serve it under the same terms for a month?

egamirorrim•50m ago
I'm so disappointed that Anthropic are jerking us around so much with Fable. Really makes me feel like cattle they're unsubtly milking.
joe_mamba•11m ago
I can't wait for China to launch a Fable-like model for 20% the cost and bomb Anthropic
_davide_•48m ago
"promotion" like they are doing you a favor just this once out of their goodwill... Really really really pissed me off
unreal6•46m ago
I regret having signed up for an annual plan at this point; the rug-pulls are increasingly irksome.
osti•34m ago
I think at the current stage of LLM, it just doesn't make sense to ever have an annual sub. Things change too quickly that you really don't want to be stuck with one model.
countcol•43m ago
This seems like the most normal use of the term that I could imagine..?
_davide_•35m ago
It isn't a promotion, it's 2x the parameters of opus and we are paying with 2x the consumption rate. They just want to get rid of the subscription model.
user43928•13m ago
The wording on initial launch was:

"For subscription plans, we’d rather give access sooner than later, so we’re rolling out more conservatively, in stages:

From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost.

On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits.

If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this as quickly as we can."

Now it's a "promotion" that we get to access to Fable for 9 days instead of the original 14 days announced. They are generously throwing in a special halving of the usage "at no extra cost", and freely admit that their classifier is broken and will need to be improved.

Well thanks!

thrill•47m ago
I'm disappointed with this. Historically, Claude's API cost a significant multiple of their subscription pricing, and after the promotional period it appears the access to Fable will be API only, if I understand this.

There actually is a limit to what people will pay for model usage, and I suppose this squeeze is one way to find out what that limit is. I've been content paying $200 per month for a solid plan that I actually don't quite use up every month, but this new vector really rubs me the wrong way.

dyauspitr•40m ago
The worst part of this is are they even training the next generation anymore? Why do it when the government has decided that US LLMs are at the peak of what they will allow consumer access to.
theplumber•39m ago
I bet my house that after the promotional stuff ends they will change their mind and let you keep using Fable on subscription. Otherwise this is the end of their marketshare. These guys are complete idiots. I give them that
mritchie712•32m ago
if gpt5.6 is out by July 7th, Fable will stay in the Max plan to at least some degree.
lnenad•30m ago
Yup, it's wild watching this happen live.
rapfaria•19m ago
Bold of you to think individuals are a big part of their marketshare and explosive growth. My company introduced enterprise last month and the bill was US$110k for a few dozen folks using it Claude Code and Design.

Do the Pro and Max plans help with word of mouth and whatnot? Sure, but the individual with a Max plan (or 4...) are all subsidized by the big spenders

nlh•12m ago
I hate that you're right, but you're right. Twitter and HN can scream and yell as loud as they want but the fact is, enterprises are going to use Fable via API and pay the bills. In fact, restricting individuals probably makes it MORE likely that enterprises will pony up.
wongarsu•10m ago
usernamed7•37m ago
this is "too little, too late" for me. I'll stick with opus 4.8.
_davide_•33m ago
I'm tempted as well, just out of spite
taytus•36m ago
Anthropic is the most idiotic corporation in America, right now.
peterspath•29m ago
For sure idiotic leadership.
ahsillyme•33m ago
Since this will not be able to be used for coding or code auditing, what use is it? Not being glib, not a rhetorical question. I'm trying to stretch my creativity, and I can't see what it's for.
enraged_camel•26m ago
You can use it for coding. The relaunch announcement was just poorly worded.
nlh•23m ago
It's usable for coding and code auditing. The classifier will have some false-positives and some tasks will be downgraded to 4.8 if it's security-adjacent (I presume), but otherwise there's no restrictions on using this for coding.
vitally3643•31m ago
Anthropic is really giving AMD a run for their money as king of "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity".

I don't think I've ever seen a company so determined to shit their own pants. It's astonishing, really.

g42gregory•27m ago
So is this a part of the "first hit is free" campaign? If it won't be available on subscription past July 7, what is the point of using it for 7 days now? Shouldn't our energy be better spent elsewhere?
ludamad•25m ago
It's already solved some problems I was blocked on for side-projects. I don't feel I have spent energy, and will go back to Opus after July 7th, minus a few hard problems being solved.
quantisan•19m ago
they want our interaction data
hadlock•8m ago
This is the correct answer
wongarsu•3m ago
I spent the first seven days of free Fable on having it analyze multiple code bases for performance issues and for various kinds of bugs. That got me a lot of tickets for opus to work through over time
sailfast•19m ago
Apparently they hired some payday loans marketing folks recently?

As much as I like(d) Anthropic and their approach to being a lab / PBC, if you hire that many people that fast for that much money, it’s inevitable that you end up with some of the same grifters that destroyed the internet. Seems hard to stop them somehow from also destroying their next company.

Schiendelman•9m ago
This makes sense to me. Consider these assumptions:

1) During peak times, they're already struggling to meet demand. They've figured out that 50% should be achievable without causing too much pain for existing users, and by setting a limit, more users will use it for architecture and then switch back to Opus 4.8 for implementation.

2) They need data on how people are using it at scale to figure out when it should fire up Opus or Haiku agents. They need to be careful not to have a model that kills your usage cap halfway through the week, and they need time to bake in balance.

I think people are reading too much into them not reiterating that they want to offer it in Max subscriptions in the future too. Of course they do, they want to compete!

I think they're trying to avoid setting up expectations right now because of all this backlash, so they didn't restate something that might make people mad. I don't even think they miscalculated - I think we're being hyper-nitpicky.

I would expect that by late July, they'll figure out the balance, and either offer a higher tier Max subscription (40x for $300, perhaps), or have Fable drop to Opus for implementation consistently, and then start offering Fable again in the Max subscriptions. They need to do something to make sure a Fable user doesn't just hit their head on the ceiling all the time.

jazzpush2•7m ago
Completely fails for anything bio-related. What a joke.
hungryhobbit•6m ago
This is all marketing BS: FABLE IS NOT BACK (for programmers at least)! See https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ukcmji/fable_is_...

Anthropic switches you back to Opus whenever you code!

But what I find truly offensive is that there's no mention of that anywhere in the page linked above. That page makes the "grand gesture" of supposedly giving away free Fable ... when no such thing is happening (again, at least, not for coders).

kingforaday•13m ago
It's going to continue to suck getting prompt rejections on their overly aggressive "benign" safety margin thresholds [1]. Without a clear understanding of what triggers it, I guess we will pay for input/output tokens on the usage credits and not get refunds? As others on HN, I found very limited utility during the Fable 5 week in early June for my benign-engineering tasks and don't look forward to this new release, but I will try.

1. https://www.anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5

wongarsu•6m ago
Everyone did get the first 7 of the original 14 days before the export ban. Now everyone gets another 7 days. Limiting it to half the weekly limit stings, but if you have a quota reset in the middle of it you still get effectively one weekly limit. (does everyone's quota now reset on Saturdays?)
Companies up to 150 licenses are encouraged to use the Team plans instead of the Enterprise plans. And those work much more like personal plans and are included in this promotion

Individually those are a lot smaller than the big enterprise contracts, but there are a lot more of them

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