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Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

https://news.ubc.ca/2026/06/mrna-vaccines-are-safe-effective-and-full-of-promise/
108•coloneltcb•1h ago

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petilon•1h ago
The science doesn't matter to this administration unfortunately: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74dzdddvmjo
petterroea•1h ago
If we want to solve that we need to stop enabling career politicians whose only life experience is debating
TylerE•1h ago
We would be a hell of a lot better off with career politicians than the current batch of grifters and ex-Fox News chuckleheads.
xboxnolifes•18m ago
Right now, we'd be better off if we even had politicians who could manage an actual debate. Seems like we can't get anything other than mudslinging and strongarming right now.
dogwalker5000•1h ago
Wow, they literally put an antivaccer in charge of the health department.
timr•1h ago
This administration literally fast-tracked the original covid vaccines for approval.

Say what you will about the Covid vaccine or Kennedy’s specific motivations (which I disagree with), but choosing to cut government funding for development of wildly profitable pharmaceutical products is a reasonable choice.

api•1h ago
The biggest single success from Trump’s first term is the thing his base hates to the point that they booed him over it.
adjejmxbdjdn•1h ago
Nope. Not this administration at all.

Trump 1 was a very different administration.

And Trump himself has publicly backed off what was probably his one major achievement after receiving pushback from his supporters.

timr•1h ago
You’re splitting hairs.
TylerE•1h ago
No, he really isn’t.

Trump one had a sane cabinet that largely controlled his wilder impulses.

This time he went for loyalty above all else.

timr•37m ago
> Trump one had a sane cabinet that largely controlled his wilder impulses.

This is absurdly revisionist. The first administration’s cabinet/staff was a reality show and a merry go round of people like Anthony Scaramucci and Ryan Zinke. If anything “controlled” it, it was just the chaos of incompetence.

As far as loyalty goes, I suppose it’s worth reminding you that Kennedy was a Democrat, who ran in the Democratic presidential primary, and routinely criticized Trump.

yieldcrv•14m ago
This is a thread about the world, not American hubris about its relevance in it

Thanks for the new toll in Hormuz though

api•1h ago
The potential for the technology in cancer treatment is what I find most exciting.
epistasis•20m ago
Yes, I've been very excited about that for more than 10 years. It may not pan out, it's far more speculative than infectious disease prevention, but when combined with checkpoint inhibitors, and I fear they may not do the bold thing and do fully personalized therapeutic vaccines, but it does provide a great deal of hope.
doginasuit•56m ago
I'm not sure this information will sway very many people. I have relatives who are all getting tested for t-cell counts related to mRNA because they are convinced they are the cause of any and all health problems they are facing. It seems like the medical professionals who are administering the tests are at least somewhat responsible for their misapplication.
epistasis•49m ago
It's so funny how there's this irrational mRNA skepticism combined with irrational peptide trust.

Grifters like RFK Jr and the supplement charlatans are cashing in on the lies they perpetuate.

alex1138•38m ago
RFK's book on Fauci is well cited. You're going to have to do better than "grifters"

Edit: Hey, feel free to do better than 'downvote'. It's intellectually bankrupt. Thanks

epistasis•34m ago
Please do better than saying an intellectually bankrupt book is "well cited."

If you mean lots of people cite it, well, that's the grift. It's lies sold to people desperate for validation of their conspiracy theories.

If you mean that it's a book based on good citations, well, hah, very untrue.

api•4m ago
“I won’t put chemicals from big pharma in my body!”

Proceeds to raw dog a bunch of “research chemicals” cause some roided up bro talked about it on a podcast…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U7gbFMWZWlo

They’re not vaccines though.

linzhangrun•50m ago
Two most populous countries, China and India, seem to have mainly relied on inactivated vaccines.
epistasis•48m ago
Which makes sense as they had less access to new technologies, and scaling issues were very hard in the early days.

But I'm not quite sure how that's relevant to the article...

squeedles•36m ago
Manufacturing matters, and six years ago, I said that one side effect from the pandemic is that mRNA technology, which had been lab-scale stuff, suddenly had dump-trucks full of money appearing to help them scale their manufacturing.

They apparently settled on the the sequences for the original covid vacs in a weekend. Going from that design to billions of doses is one of the hardest things to do, but once done, will persist. And it is ready to be deployed for the next hundred applications that we find for this.

Flu vaccines is an obvious application, since the prior egg-based manufacturing required about six months lead time and millions of eggs, but nobody wanted to invest in anything better.

tencentshill•34m ago
Good thing we got [rest of world] to do the hard science work, and America can just benefit from it instead!
yieldcrv•20m ago
> The researchers emphasize that, like all vaccines, mRNA vaccines can have side effects. They found that serious adverse events—such as myocarditis, which occurs more frequently in younger males—are rare and consistently outweighed by the vaccines’ protection

reminder to the myocarditis-maxxies, the actual virus causes that too and the 2020-2021 variants caused it worse

if we were all going to drop dead (I think 2 years ago now, I’m waaaaiting!) for whatever the vaccine did, it would apply to a broader population due to covid exposure

antonvs•10m ago
> if we were all going to drop dead (I think 2 years ago now, I’m waaaaiting!)

Channeling Monty Python:

... I got better

swingboy•6m ago
Serious question in good faith: what was the deal with the “calamari” (clots?) the anti-vax crowd kept talking about being found in the veins/arteries of folks who took the Covid vaccine?
diego_moita•5m ago
In the end, do facts even matter in politically charged discussions?

This sounds a bit like providing evidence for global warming, gun control or evolution. The "skeptics" just want to remain ignorant. No amount of evidence will change them.

The silver lining about vaccine skeptics, though, is the Herman Cain award[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain_Award

petilon•14m ago
Relatively speaking Trump 1.0 had a sane cabinet. Yes, there were some crazies, sure, but relative to the people he has around him now, they seem sane.
ceejayoz•14m ago
Where’s the Kelly and Mattis in the second term?

Kennedy was a Democrat as a spoiler.

petilon•58m ago
Not many people know that Trump had a hand in starting the pandemic.

Here's what we know: In 2014, Obama administration halted the so called "gain of function" research because of risk of laboratory accidents. In 2017, the Trump administration restarted this dangerous research. See links below.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/white-house-to-cut-fun...

Excerpt: [Obama administration] White House announced Friday that it would temporarily halt all new funding for experiments that seek to study certain infectious agents by making them more dangerous. The White House said the moratorium decision had been made “following recent biosafety incidents at federal research facilities.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/health/lethal-viruses-nih...

Excerpt: [Trump administration] on Tuesday ended a moratorium imposed three years ago on funding research that alters germs to make them more lethal. Critics say these researchers risk creating a monster germ that could escape the lab and seed a pandemic.

So, Trump restarted the dangerous research that Obama had shut down. You may be thinking, what does that have to do with Covid? Covid started in Wuhan, China, right?

It turns out that the Trump administration, through the National Institutes of Health (NIH), provided funding to the EcoHealth Alliance, an American non-profit organization focused on studying emerging diseases. The EcoHealth Alliance, in turn, provided funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China for researching bat coronaviruses. The rest is history.

And then Trump also disbanded the pandemic preparedness team in 2018 just in time for the pandemic. See link below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/nsc-pandemic-office-t...

stinkbeetle•49m ago
No that was a conspiracy theory fueled by Russian disinformation, the scientists and experts testified that there was no gain of function work being done and debunked it.
petilon•42m ago
Citation needed. If you are going to say NYT article is wrong we need more than just your words.
stinkbeetle•22m ago
You really believe some billionaire oligarchs propaganda corporation over foremost self-proclaimed expert Anthony "I am the science" Fauci? Something an agent of Putin would say.
timr•48m ago
Well, I have to say that this is the most innovative leap of partisan politics I’ve seen so far this year!

Most left-wing critics are still struggling with admitting that Anthony Fauci really did provide funding to EcoHealth, despite ample documentation.

petilon•40m ago
Not sure what is partisan about this. Some facts were presented. Not opinions, facts. If you dispute any of the above is factual please back up your assertion with citations.
timr•30m ago
The facts are true. Blaming Trump is the innovation.

For the record, I don’t care who gets blamed. I just think it’s a hilarious twist of partisan rhetoric.

petilon•20m ago
If the President hires someone who then restarted research that previous admin stopped for being too dangerous, does the President get no part of the blame? The buck stops with the President. If he hired the wrong person--and he has hired plenty of wrong people this time around--he gets the blame for the disasters they cause.
lokar•54m ago
My understanding is that vaccine research and production is almost never profitable and depends on government support. Either grants, guaranteed purchases, or both.
timr•42m ago
Your understanding is incorrect. All research is unprofitable, by definition. Vaccines are wildly profitable.
lokar•38m ago
Yeah, there would be none without government support.

Remember when everyone was contributing spare dimes to fund a vaccine?

timr•34m ago
No. Pharmaceutical companies love vaccines. They’re relatively easy to make, they’re indemnified against harms, they cannot be generic, and they are wildly profitable. And on top of all of that, they often get mandated by schools, ensuring a captive market.

If the government never funded another study for vaccines, ever, pharma companies would continue to pump them out.

lokar•30m ago
The mandate is the government support, it’s a purchase guarantee.
timr•26m ago
…Which hasn’t changed.

Also, for the record: very few (no?) vaccines are “mandated” by the federal government. Recommendations are made, and state and local governments do this, mainly through school districts.

Various agencies and the military will, of course, mandate things for their own staff.

baronvonsp•29m ago
Yeah that's called survivorship bias. The ones that make it to market can be wildly profitable to manufacture. Doing all the work to sift through what does and doesn't work to discover new vaccines wouldn't happen without public funding.
timr•11m ago
No, that’s called pharmaceutical development. That’s the business.

We don’t generally fund Merck’s R&D with federal money. You’ll note the following critical detail from the article:

> That will impact 22 projects being led by major pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer and Moderna, for vaccines against bird flu and other viruses, HHS said.

We’ve gone so far round the bend with partisanship that straight-up corporate welfare has become a left-wing cause.

antonvs•8m ago
> All research is unprofitable, by definition.

The game to compensate for that is to be to convince gullible investors that your commercially viable fusion plant, or quantum computer, or unrealistic space ambitions are just 5 years away! Invest now or miss out!

The line between research and scamming in an ultracapitalist economy becomes very blurry.

altmanaltman•5m ago
It's literally not the same administration. Also yeah he wants private companies to stop "wild" profits while he grifts the nation with crypto, hosting UFC on white house? You have to be stupid or willfully ignorant to think the current administration gives a single f about unchecked profits or the people's general wellbeing.
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