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Al Vigier: Canada's AI strategy shouldn't include secret Palantir bills

https://www.readtheline.ca/p/al-vigier-canadas-ai-strategy-shouldnt
51•ClearwayLaw•1h ago

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ClearwayLaw•1h ago
Instead, buy domestic product, and out in the open.
autoexec•33m ago
Better yet, build a domestic product for government use and tightly regulate and oversee it so that you can be sure it's being used lawfully, only when needed for government use, and only when necessary. Democratic nations have power over their government but not over corporations. I know which one I'd rather have ruling over me and spying on my every move.
Exoristos•14m ago
> ... build a domestic product for government use and tightly regulate and oversee it ...

Government to tightly regulate and oversee itself, I perceive.

> Democratic nations have power over their government but not over corporations.

Democratic governments and corporations have been around about as many centuries, and both have long ago perfected techniques to make sure the people have no direct power over either of them, often in tandem. That said, it seems remarkable that you're less anxious about the partner in this age-old dance that has the warplanes and myriads of armed enforcers.

altmanaltman•58m ago
I mean no public strategy should include secret bills, Palantir or no Palantir.

If you're idealogically opposed to Palantir, how will a home-grown Palantir help? It would likely do the same things Palantir does but with a Canadian Alex Karp

gpm•21m ago
Well there's a clear difference between a creepy company spying on you and a creepy company closely aligned with a government that has threatened to annex you spying on you.

Neither are great, but one is worse.

userbinator•48m ago
What a title. I misread and thought an "AI Vigier" was an official tasked with being vigilant about AI.
jschrf•43m ago
Canada shouldn't include Palantir at all.
gatvol•8m ago
Why not?
maxdo•26m ago
Canada and domestic product simply not possible The only two countries who can run domestic products of this kind are USA and China . The rest is just gimmick or a lie.
bigyabai•23m ago
Palantir's software stack is not really that complex, and their FDE workforce is famously... undereducated. Canada should be able to pull it off, there's much to improve on.
tamimio•21m ago
The sovereign initiative in Canada is laughable, most if not all critical infrastructure are 100% relying on US cloud products, from the usuals like MS and google all the way to cybersecurity and other products, and we are not even talking about supply chains and the likes. So practically speaking, the US can in a click, turn off Canada’s grid and banking, in minutes without a single bullet, the country will collapse. That’s why whenever I see all that buzz words of “sovereign xyz” I know it’s a just a way to funnel tax money back to some companies or programs, without having so much questions about it.
Waterluvian•15m ago
Step by step we need to de-Americanize, for sure. Can’t just happen overnight.
jmyeet•4m ago
I don't think there's a government in the world, including the US, that should allow Palantir anywhere near their data or systems. I consider Palantir a national security threat. I also feel this way about McKinsey (and Bain, BCG, etc).

I also think any form of platform AI usage to be a national security threat in the absence of stringent controls over that data and the platform. At some point I think governments and companies will wake up to this and demand local LLMs or, in the very least, a cloud platform within their jurisdiction, ownership and control.

The 1980s and 1990s ushered in this idea of "small government", privatization and public-private partnerships that I think was a huge mistake with catastrophic consequences. It's simply letting the foxes into the hen house. It leads to regulatory capture, a revolving door and a massive government-to-private wealth transfer.

What's funny is that a lot of this stems from a now throughly debunked idea of the "tragedy of the commons" [1].

[1]: https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2015/03...

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