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Microsoft Can Track Users via a Windows Device ID

https://www.pcmag.com/news/a-hackers-arrest-reveals-microsoft-can-track-users-via-a-windows-device
61•ifh-hn•1h ago

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Terr_•1h ago
TLDR: Microsoft can (at least) correlate your Windows installation to all website domains you visit while using Windows.

It's unclear what the mechanism is, but I'd wager their "telemetry" is constantly revealing your installation ID, your current IP, and domains that were recently resolved.

pogue•49m ago
The article links to this page, which was shared on HN yesterday. [1]

I feel like using wireshark to look at what's being sent back and forth from Windows telemetry, when using Edge, Chrome & etc should reveal what's being sent and recieved. Using MITM SSL spoofing should be able to intercept the packets.

[1] https://github.com/SmtimesIWndr/gdid-reversal

Terr_•44m ago
I would be shocked if Microsoft was not using their own layer of certificate-pinning to stop people from doing that, and/or using another layer of encryption separate from the networking layer.
cromka•35m ago
But you'd still see some encrypted traffic and it wouldn't fly under a radar
pogue•27m ago
Only way to see what's going on is testing to see what's going on. Hopefully, someone who knows more about it than me can take a look at the packets and see what they contain.
echelon_musk•41m ago
Worse than just domains as TFA shows full URLs are recorded.

Reminds me of Google Safebrowsing.

protocolture•34m ago
Probably a capability demanded through a TCN or TAN as part of a mechanism like Australias Access and Assistance bill.
midtake•30m ago
To me this indicates that Microsoft has some sort of traffic analysis performed on endpoints, then linked to GDID. I'd guess this is part of Defender's real time protection or MAPS.

Fun fact, Microsoft Defender MAPS was previously named SpyNet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Active_Protection_Se...

The GDID identifier seems software in nature though. They could be more aggressive and tie it to the baseboard's serial number the way some games do. Then the hardware is tracked throughout its entire lifecycle, not just per instance of Windows install.

egamirorrim•17m ago
Truly terrifying. But also shocking that a 'hacker' is using windows
zelphirkalt•13m ago
My surprise level is at approximately... zero. Next we will see some news, that MS was compelled to share that info with some three letters. - Oh wait, that is exactly what has already happened, according to the article.

MS is just like that person, who drives a dagger into your back.

cheschire•13m ago
Well they can’t use that to track users of Linux.

I was a big fan of Microsoft ten to fifteen years ago. I’ve since transitioned my whole family off Microsoft products now over to Linux, Apple, and proton.

I really thought their corporate culture would’ve changed after the late 90’s but I guess this is a good lesson for founders. The culture you build into your company will likely outlast your tenure.

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