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Andy Pavlo Joins ClickHouse to Establish ClickHouse Labs

https://clickhouse.com/blog/andy-pavlo-joins-clickhouse
72•nikolay_sivko•2h ago

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tomsanbear•46m ago
Always enjoyed his lecture series from CMU, hopefully those continue in a sponsored format from Clickhouse.
sghiassy•43m ago
Clickhouse Labs is a research lab for ClickHouse’s engineers and their db product?

Whatever floats your boat. Sounds like you just work as an engineer at a db company

lumost•35m ago
Deep tech fields have a more complex relationship with academia than other industries. Engineers often need license to test ideas that may not see adoption for years, or require tens of millions to build-out.

A "research" arm is exactly this license, although it comes at the cost of potentially killing innovation in the rest of the company.

ForHackernews•20m ago
C'mon, databases are great but they are not in any way a "deep tech" field. Databases exist today in a zillion production forms as commercial products and free software.

Deep tech includes things like nuclear fusion, solid state batteries, quantum computers. I know everyone wants to feel cool, but just because your new javascript framework will be in beta for the next ten years doesn't make it "deep tech".

lumost•12m ago
I'd ascribe "deep tech" to anything that you can reasonably get a PhD in and have it not be unusual. There are dozens of academic conferences on DBs pushing the frontier forward.
ForHackernews•9m ago
I'm very excited to keep pushing the frontiers of deep tech art history, just as soon as I complete my $150M Series B raise.
apavlo•33m ago
I'm not sure what you think "research lab" means? As I mentioned in the article, we look at IBM Research (Almaden) and Microsoft Research as inspiration.
ForHackernews•19m ago
Looking forward to the database analogues of IBM Watson and Tay.ai

I'm partly kidding; there's plenty of space for innovation in databases. You should sponsor https://sled.rs/

jandrewrogers•12m ago
Many database companies have research labs. It allows you to explore ideas, unorthodox concepts, and parts of the design space that may never be reflected in an actual product. Or to figure out how to solve specific hard problems that you come across with neither a good solution nor proof of impossibility in literature.

This is essential for a company that wants to stay on the frontier of database tech.

pphysch•41m ago
> The goal of ClickHouse Labs is to establish a best-in-class industry research organization focused on databases. It will not operate as an isolated research organization that throws ideas over the wall to engineering. Instead, we will work closely with ClickHouse engineers, customers, collaborators, and industry partners to develop and disseminate new ideas that keep ClickHouse at the bleeding edge.

This is cool, though bittersweet that the public research infrastructure (universities) is not really configured to support this kind of high-impact research any more.

throwaw12•39m ago
That's great news for Clickhouse and for Andy I guess, they are both obsessed with databases and are at the cutting edge.
danlark1•28m ago
Congrats, that's incredible news. Watched apavlo@'s lectures while studying in the university and finished my bachelor thesis implementing features and doing research at ClickHouse. Surprised to see these worlds being together now!
adrianco•20m ago
Hi Andy, that’s very cool news. Will you be at the HPTS workshop in October?
jzelinskie•19m ago
Congratulations, Andy! This sounds like a great opportunity and continues your bet that SQL always wins out in the end.

What idea are you most excited about to work on first?

astrange•15m ago
> ClickHouse had features that at the time were only found in a handful of closed-source, commercial analytical DBMSs. For example, ClickHouse was written in C++ and supported vectorized query execution using SIMD in 2016. Most prominent open-source analytical DBMSs in 2016 were JVM-based and did not support SIMD optimizations until years later.

Performance is a feature. "Written in C++" is a strange idea of a feature.

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