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The Claudyssey: A line-for-line translation of Homer's Odyssey by Claude Fable 5

https://theclaudyssey.com/
23•spinchange•2h ago

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spinchange•2h ago
12,107 line-for-line translation of the A.T. Murray Greek text (Loeb, 1919) by Claude Fable. Includes line notes and an index. HTML, epub, pdf, and YouTube Audio (by gpt4o-TTS). A dual-agent review pass was done on the entire work with a third "adjudication" agent reconciling their findings. Reviewer agnets were gpt-5.6-sol high reasoning.
8by3•2h ago
why?
spinchange•2h ago
I love the poem and wanted a modern translation with annotations and index, etc., to be freely available to anyone who wanted to read it. I had a sense that Fable would do a really good job. I am pleased with how it came out. The review agents didn't change a single word of the translation, only some of the notes.
squidbeak•25m ago
Every translator is opinionated in some way. I can see the appeal in having something like this as a neutral comparison.
SwellJoe•21m ago
LLMs are not neutral, either. They don't have "opinions", per se, as they don't want anything, but they do have biases baked into their training.
nater5000•35m ago
Read this as "Claudussy" at first.
whythismatters•32m ago
How does it compare to previous (human) translations, what is the regurgitation level? In any case, lots of em dashes, so mission accomplished to bring it up to contemporary standards.
suddenlybananas•11m ago
https://theclaudyssey.com/read/book-01.html#n1

The first line is a crappy mishmash of Lattimore and Fagles.

Lattimore: >Tell me, Muse, of the man of many ways, who was driven far journeys, after he had sacked Troy’s secret citadel.

Fagles: >Sing to me of the man, Muse, the man of twists and turns driven time and again off course, once he had plundered the hallowed heights of Troy.

Claude: >Tell me the man, Muse — the man of many turnings, who was driven wandering far, once he had sacked Troy's holy citadel

Combining "man of many ways" and "man of twists and turns" into "man of many turnings" is just dreck.

bananaflag•28m ago
Probably this will be done more and more often for works which don't have translation in some language because of low interest. E.g. old manuscripts, light novels, fan fiction etc.
Animats•27m ago
Now have it make it into a movie.
gdiamos•24m ago
Christopher Nolan beat you to it
Animats•6m ago
I mean let Claude make it into a movie. A task which is quite possible.
UtopiaPunk•26m ago
This page provides a great overview of several popular translations of The Odyssey. It lists line-by-line translations as well free translations: https://readtheodyssey.org/best-odyssey-translation
squidbeak•17m ago
It's hard to take that page seriously when it doesn't include the marvellous translation by Peter Green.
arm32•26m ago
I'm just curious why you'd put "Claud[e]" in the name of this project. Is it an Anthropic-sponsored one? If so, may you please disclose it? Additionally, I think it puts a date to a wonderful project that otherwise could be very timeless. In 5 years we'll probably be like, "what's Claude?" Anyway, really cool work and thanks for sharing!
bananaflag•24m ago
In 5 years we'll probably have locally run AI which could do something like this in a millisecond.
SwellJoe•22m ago
I truly doubt it will be timeless. There are already a few excellent English translations of the Odyssey.
lins1909•13m ago
What is the point of this?
RobinL•10m ago
Having recently read Wilson's translation, I was immediately put off at the introduction and leapt to the conclusion it was bad. It just doesn't sound anywhere near as good to my ear.

However, there may be more to it than I thought. No admittedly the following is ChatGPT's opinion, but I think it's valid and made me think again:

> The second is the better translation as English poetry; the first (Claude's) is the better translation if you want to see the Greek more directly.

> If I were studying Homer, I'd strongly prefer the first. It continually reminds you that you're reading an ancient poem whose concepts don't map neatly onto modern English.

mw888•5m ago
This could allow a very opinionated and tailored translation, which I think is the appeal.

That said, I'd like to see the prompt(s) having such an effect on the subjective choices for a project like this.

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