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Databricks drove down AI coding spend 70%

https://www.databricks.com/blog/managing-ai-coding-costs-scale
54•moonikakiss•1h ago

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bogota•49m ago
Really? Because removing it from my company has saved us over 2 million a year and we were able to speed up processing. The chargeback model for databricks is predatory at best.
smt88•37m ago
I think you’ve misunderstood the article. It’s about how Databricks reduced their own costs, not about how adopting Databricks will reduce anyone else’s costs.
SteveNuts•34m ago
What did you move to and what type of workload, if I may ask?
platinumrad•39m ago
Careful. If you admit to using models that weren't trained by OpenAI or Anthropic then you might hauled in front of Congress: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3362616/us...
GiorgioG•36m ago
Too bad their AI query generation is next to useless.
aliasxneo•28m ago
First time hearing of Omnigent. Anyone have experience using it?
bisonbear•26m ago
This approach seems fundamentally predicated on being able to evaluate coding agents on your own code by having domain specific evals. With that knowledge, you can trust the routing logic is actually improving/maintaining perf while reducing costs.

Without the insight into agent performance, any changes like this feel like a gamble to save $$ at the cost of developer productivity

I'm actually working on building generic repo-specific benchmarks at https://stet.sh ;)

skullone•25m ago
Yawn. Databricks and their half baked overly expensive platform.
lubujackson•25m ago
These seem like the obvious tweaks akin to "using a cheaper hosting platform". I think the real savings come from careful context control for programmatic agents, careful tool awareness and usage to reduce thrashing, distilling workflows into deterministic processes and, moat importantly, adding friction and boundaries for non-technical users who tend to burn tokens making insane asks like "analyze all documents and give me a summary".
dan_q•25m ago
Quit cold turkey and you can drive down AI coding spend 100%.
wxw•24m ago
> Rapidly adopting newer, more efficient models delivers the largest cost wins of any technique.

I think the more interesting lever is the fourth they mention: token efficiency.

> By the time costly LLM inference occurs, the user's initial statement accounts for only a negligible fraction of the data fed into the AI system, meaning costs are dominated by context the user did not explicitly include.

I think there’s still lots of low hanging fruit in regards to monitoring and improving agent work. Look at your sessions. Look at how much time and context is being spent on, say, a web search returning dozens of results when one good single-pager doc would’ve been better.

sellmethepen•23m ago
is this opensource or have to buy from Databricks?
mjuarez•18m ago
It seems Databricks open-sourced it a while ago:

https://www.databricks.com/blog/introducing-omnigent-meta-ha...

https://github.com/omnigent-ai/omnigent

sandeepkd•19m ago
I find this funny and interesting at some levels

1. Codex, Claude and others try to switch models being used at their level itself to manage the cost and outcomes

2. Now company like data bricks develops one more layer on the top of it to do the same task, of finding the base harness and applicable model

Companies like Codex and Claude are focussing/investing heavily on to ensure that people are using their harness directly or instead use APIs. Unless Databricks has some agreement in place they are violating the TOS and openly publishing an article about it. Would be interesting if openAi or Anthropic come back and claim for the API usage prices and all the savings go away.

extr•13m ago
I would be really curious to hear from devs at Databricks what the experience of development is like internally. I work at a small startup with essentially unlimited AI spend budget - the entire point is that I should be turning to it at every opportunity since our human labor is so expensive relative to tokens. So generally it's like:

- Spend most time prioritizing/discussing what to do.

- Once that's agreed, use Fable 5 High + 5.6 Sol XHigh come up with a design + plan. Agree on the high level plan. (Usually this just comes down to choosing where the change belongs on the spectrum between minimal patch <-> full redesign)

- Use Opus 5 or Sol Med to execute

- Auto-fix bugs and CI until green + thermonuclear review skill x3.

- Manual interrogation of change/nits

- Come up with QA plan and have Codex Computer Use execute on it

- Manually spot check the final result (usually a sizable diff, thousands of lines, complete feature E2E, etc)

I probably spend like $80 a day at least but I produce the output of 3 or 4 2022 engineers and probably at better quality. So it's easily worth it. Would I save money by switching to GLM 5.2 and such...perhaps? IDK. At our scale it's not worth the time spent building the eval harness to actually understand the performance tradeoff.

biophysboy•7m ago
Do you have tips for generating clean productive output per dollar?
RugnirViking•4m ago
Did you have issues with performance at the moment? Right now I tend to find that it produces absolutely terrible design patterns and especially performance. I mean maybe I don't know exactly what area you're looking at but yeah for us we tend to find its terrible and often any performance improvements it proposes end up actually shooting itself in the foot and being worse than before but it's not very good at testing in an organized way I mean if I prompt it to test performance in a structured way (it is very bad at finding out what performance to test and why) before making changes I can usually figure it out but it usually takes my touch to really insist on what is a good refactor that will actually fix the problem
lbriner•8m ago
There are a surprising number of articles like this along the lines of, "we started using AI tools and ended up spending millions per year".

On what planet do people start paying for things without keeping an eye on the costs and no-one notices until you have spent a crazy amount? I don't understand. You are either paying a fixed amount which you are happy about in-advance or you are PAYG in which case you would ballpark how much it costs.

Otherwise it reads a bit like a fake problem, because it didn't really happen, you just foresaw it (as you should) and added a few guide rails.

jgalt212•5m ago
> we started using AI tools and ended up spending millions per year

This is how AWS made its fortune.

reqo•2m ago
IME this works until it does not. This approach works well at the beginning of a greenfield project, but at the same time because it is so easy to add features, you will likely ship something that is way too over engineered. And that complexity will not amortize over next increments and will more likely lead to the entire project being a black box only fully understood by AI. However a more careful use of AI for targeted surgical changes is far more ”productive” in the long term IMO.

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