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AI models don't kill people – people kill people

https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/09/09/ai-models-dont-kill-people-people-kill-people/5295368
24•Bender•1h ago

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boesboes•43m ago
What a fucking non discussion. gUnS dOnt KiLl pEople hurrrrr
ericmay•38m ago
Well guns don't kill people on their own. They just sit there. AI might actually be different and just kill people on its own.
rglover•37m ago
Just like a gun requires someone to pull the trigger, AI requires someone to prompt it (or kick off the initial loop).
9dev•32m ago
And who is to say that trigger hasn’t long been pulled? How do we know the agents haven’t found a way yet to modify their own code base similar to Stuxnet manipulated the Iranian centrifuges and their control systems, stealthily recording data across generations?
hackyhacky•5m ago
If the trigger has already been pulled, then we're off the hook. That genie ain't going back in the bottle! Pop the champagne and order 3 more data centers, pronto.
honeycrispy•40m ago
And just like that, HN became pro-2nd amendment.
Arubis•28m ago
It wouldn’t actually be _that_ surprising. Tech isn’t progressive or countercultural* anymore. And a lot of how people feel about gun rights/gun control stateside really comes down to whether people identify with the population they perceive as owning guns—are they my people or The Other? (I don’t mean to dismiss that there’s an entirely rationalist argument to be had around whether permitting gun ownership and to what extent is good or bad or multivariate for society; I just don’t think it’s the one most people have. And—I’m fairly sure _my own_ take is colored this way.)

* if you know of an industry that’s properly progressive and countercultural and could conceivably pay at least survival wages, sign me right up. I’m good at this one but it no longer fills my cup. I’m tired.

hackyhacky•8m ago
> if you know of an industry that’s properly progressive and countercultural and could conceivably pay at least survival wages

* Be a hallucinogenic therapy shaman.

* Start a cult.

* Work as one of those paid protesters that they always mention on Fox News

pigpop•1m ago
This seems like an odd take. I remember when a large portion of the people I'd speak with online were very pro 2a while also being countercultural. There was a strong individual liberties/responsibilities, anti-government, pro-decentralization and devolution of power, and dare I say libertarian streak. This isn't an attitude I'd associate with the modern definition of progressive.

The big tech era certainly diluted a lot of that but I don't think it ever went away. I haven't seen a huge resurgence in this either so it seems strange to believe that tech is becoming less progressive. From my vantage it is still very far away from where it was in the 80s and 90s. I can agree that it has become much, much less countercultural since it's basically 100% mainstream opinion now.

onraglanroad•35m ago
I'm not sure the submitter, Bender "kill all humans" Rodriguez, is entirely neutral on this.
_ache_•30m ago
Ok, so OpenAI is going to compensate RubyGem for the cyberattack on its servers?
bananaflag•16m ago
Toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast.
mattlondon•9m ago
10% chance of AI killing us all... But how much of a chance of humans killing all humans? It's not like we are in some unprecedented era of peacefulness. I'd wager the chances of a proper nuclear exchange right now are above 10%.

I am not sure how I feel about all this. Yes bad AI might screw some things up. But AI might also find and prevent the software errors that allow such things to even be possible in the first place.

And ultimately, even if we are "locked out" from bad AI taking over the internet, we know where the data centers are. It's not like AI can reasonably "escape" since we know it needs DC-scale power, cooling, chips etc to operate at scale. I am pretty sure that if it came to it, we can just cut the fibre to the data centers or cut the power and let the generators run out of diesel and the AI is literally dead.

functionmouse•58s ago
the chances of a proper nuclear exchange when? This week? This year? At any time in the future? The probability approaches 1.
dd8601fn•5m ago
Man if anyone else did any of this there would be guys with guns kicking down doors.

I don't understand why these companies automatically get a pass.

anon373839•17m ago
I will say that LLMs are somewhat unlike guns in that they emit text.
heaney-555•12m ago
Sure, but with a harness, said emitted text can run terminal commands and call APIs, which, with the right hardware or auth keys, can do just as much (if not more!) harm.
jmathai•9m ago
For context for those outside the US, this is a play on a common saying "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."

It's commonly used in relation to the 2nd amendment which gives citizens the right to bear arms. It comes up when there are political debates relating to gun violence.

It's a statement of responsibility. Whether it's the government, gun makers', or citizens' responsibility to ensure responsible gun use.

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