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Hackers Got Inside a Flock Camera. Its Data Shows How the System Works

https://www.wired.com/story/hackers-flock-camera-data-shows-how-system-works/
82•driverdan•1h ago

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driverdan•1h ago
This reporting was done in collaboration with 404media. Here's the discussion for 404's article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49726577

Distributed Denial of Secrets has published the partition images: https://ddosecrets.org/article/flock-alpr-camera

john_strinlai•50m ago
do the articles have significantly different information/coverage to warrant two submissions?
fullstop•17m ago
I poked around in the boot partition. The kernel is ancient!

Linux version 3.18.71-perf-gaf770dc

datakan•15m ago
The oldest supported kernel is 5.10 and that loses support in December. That's wild they are using a 3.X kernel
client4•44m ago
https://archive.vn/NiIzH
ck2•41m ago
so when do we get it flipped to a nationwide bird migration tracking system?

as someone pointed out: let's make that "flock" name accurate

also make it identify bird song, I am sure there are microphones on there

kotaKat•5m ago
Someone should sell branded black trashbags with a spraypainted penis on them.

We'll call it Cock Safety and help our community with patented JimmyHat technology to keep you safe and covered.

smalltorch•27m ago
>At the same time, about every two minutes, code checked that the camera was still running and logged the message, “Who’s a good boy?!
iamnothere•26m ago
I think I should start posting a reminder in Flock threads that Axon is a Flock competitor, is also engaged in mass surveillance, and is possibly even worse, but there’s rarely any mention of it. Journalists need to do some digging there. This shouldn’t just be a Flock story, or Flock will just get bought up or something and everyone will move on.

(The above should not be read as supporting Flock or discouraging further investigation.)

> The camera’s logs also show the camera struggling with storage. Its logs recorded more than 27,000 “no space left on device” errors while trying to save full-resolution images, along with tens of thousands of related errors, crashes, and reboots. At the same time, about every two minutes, code checked that the camera was still running and logged the message, “Who’s a good boy?!” More than 12,000 of those messages appear in the recovered logs.

Lol

jordanb•22m ago
"Axon is Flock but worse" will be the next big fight as police departments are pulling a fast one and saying "we got rid of Flock" by switching to Axon.
ofcrpls•15m ago
Axon is the default for the on-body camera system. The barrage of cop tv shows use them as part of their promotional relationships. Flock decided to not attack their market, in stead go for the adjacent space.
kotaKat•6m ago
Bonus points: https://fccid.io/X4GS06009/Internal-Photos/Internal-Photos-8...

"Page 17" in the document shows a spicy little chip.

https://www.quectel.com/product/kg100s-amazon-sidewalk-modul...

Axon not only includes a cell modem... they're on Amazon Sidewalk, baby.

https://coverage.sidewalk.amazon/

stackghost•24m ago
But will it run Doom?
drfloyd51•22m ago
So… all that data is literally there for any unauthorized person to walk up and take it.

It’s not even suitably encrypted on device?

Zero trust in anything Flock says.

FrustratedMonky•9m ago
It is bad.

But think the real danger in Flock is the aggregate data, tracking between camaras. So if someone hacks a single camara, they probably don't get much, unless it is pointed right at someone, which is bad. Aren't they selling these as should be pointing at traffic? If they are pointing right at people, like at playgrounds, then they are being installed illegally to begin with ?

fullstop•7m ago
Is this an older model? I could see them turning off or using weak encryption on media if the hardware couldn't keep up with the amount of data they were writing.
goolz•19m ago
Why did we not get the cool dystopia ala Gibson's Chiba City?
apercu•16m ago
Late stage capitalism?
deaux•7m ago
Title is missing "(YC S17)" after "Flock".
CoopaTroopa•7m ago
While highly unprofessional, the "Who's a good boy?!" status message makes me like them a tiny bit more

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