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Dutch governments builds alternative for Microsoft based on NixOS

https://www.dawo.community/en/
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Dutch governments builds alternative for Microsoft based on NixOS

https://www.dawo.community/en/
118•fjfaase•1h ago

Comments

solarkraft•49m ago
Awesome! I believe NixOS is perfect for systems you just want to work and track reproducibly, like appliances (which a lot of server software is supposed to be). I’m glad people smarter than me are actually able to realize its advantages =)

In the same space, also check out openDesk initiated by the German Government (https://www.opendesk.eu/en) and La Suite by the French one (https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/).

AFAIK, there has been some collaboration with the German government on La Suite, not sure about the others.

mastermage•44m ago
This realy would be a great way to foster collaboration within the EU. To create an own independant Ecosystem outside of the microsoft world.
vanschelven•45m ago
For a second I was worried that the actual code behind this was dead in the water ("3 months ago") but it's just one more click away:

https://code.overheid.nl/MinBZK/DAWO-NixOS

ricardobeat•44m ago
A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].

[1] https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...

NoahZuniga•39m ago
Their instance is self hosted right, so this doesn't apply I think.
KomoD•38m ago
And Codeberg also blocks real people from accessing it, for who knows what reason. I just get "Access denied." with no more info.

But they do let me visit blog.codeberg.org

sevenzero•24m ago
Had that issue with HTTP accessed repo, switching to SSH solved it for me.
graemep•37m ago
Is it on Codeberg? I looked self-hosted to me.
KomoD•36m ago
https://code.overheid.nl/MinBZK/DAWO-NixOS says:

> DAWO Core has moved from https://code.overheid.nl to Codeberg to facilitate community collaboration.

parlortricks•42m ago
This is great, would love to understand why Nix over Lix or Guix.
KomoD•40m ago
Site doesn't work for me.

www.dawo.community took too long to respond.

ndom91•13m ago
Are you in the US? Hehe
bialyalibaba•39m ago
Nixpkgs should reduce package count. Waiting 2 days for unbound CVE patch merge is unbearable.
einpoklum•27m ago
What is it that they need/add above NixOS defaults?
flippingheck•6m ago
They likely offer at least some of:

* typical deployments

* training/consulting

* compliance with Ditch regulations

* shared infrastructure for custom builds, and CVEs

askonomm•27m ago
Any move away from the abusive big tech that exists in USA is a good move in my book. Microsoft just recently made a new patent where they will monitor you via camera and microphone to block your program/game to show you ads, and per ads viewed, you then earn credit to be able to use your program/game. It is absolutely wild to me how a corporation can be so toxic and abusive to its users and still be in business.
MonkeyClub•16m ago
Black Mirror has unwittingly been offering a lot of nice, horrible ideas.
Thanemate•5m ago
> It is absolutely wild to me how a corporation can be so toxic and abusive to its users and still be in business.

It's easy: The choice was made from someone else, and you just accepted it as normal. Hardware vendors shipping PC's with Windows 11, corporations who went all in to Microsoft's tooling shove Microsoft Teams down your throat because "the company uses it", and the list goes on.

jimnotgym•25m ago
To save anyone else I asked Claude

"NixOS is a Linux distribution where your whole system is defined in one configuration file."

I didn't get that from looking at their website...

sevenzero•22m ago
NixOS is also unnecessarily complicated and it's easy for someone that doesn't want to read 1000 pages of documentation to brick your system.

Probably has its uses, tried it twice myself and both times were a lot of struggling.

For me even Arch was easier to configure than Nix.

TitaRusell•10m ago
The history of the Netherlands is all about making things unnecessarily complicated.

When lesser nations rally around the flag and elect dictators we have meetings and consultations.

dminik•10m ago
Each nixos rebuild creates a snapshot. While I also eventually moved off of nixos, I've yet to get a system that was as stable as it.
chpatrick•8m ago
The problem with Arch is that configuration is by hand so you have to do it every time. With Nix you configure it once and then you can deploy it anywhere. Also it's pretty much impossible to break since the system is immutable and you can boot to a different revision any time.
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galumptuous•26m ago
Does this mean European governments have or will have an alternative(s) to GitHub as well?
streetfighter64•37m ago
Fair note, but I'd avoid the cheap shot "more open". You'll just bring up the old flame wars about whether the MIT-style or GNU-style licenses are more open.

The same applies here, is it really "more open" to allow corporations to profit by removing the openness of your work?

ricardobeat•21m ago
Point taken, trimmed that. I do take issue with their position but not the place to start a new discussion.
gagik_co•36m ago
It’d make the most sense for the Dutch government (or DAWO) to have their own Forgejo instance if the goal is data sovereignty.

edit: looks like this was originally the case and then they moved?

utopiah•31m ago
clearly shows the need for federated forges, where you get to decide on your own rules but you still benefit from interacting with a broader set of collaborators.
embedding-shape•14m ago
Yeah, waiting for this too, feels like the final piece of the puzzle. Tracking issue from Codeberg + more general information about the effort around the the ecosystem:

- https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59 ("[FEAT] implement federation")

- https://forgefed.org/

poulpy123•11m ago
That's a recipe for drama as shown with mastodon when they got publicity few years ago
schnebbau•23m ago
Codeberg are going to have issues in the future when all code is AI generated (except for artisanal code of course, written for the love of the craft but not to achieve anything of merit).
max_streese•17m ago
Assuming writing code by hand is slower (which I agree with), why can't it still have merit compared to code written via llm harness?
applfanboysbgon•5m ago
Policies are enacted for current reality, not fantasy futures. If your magical fantasy becomes reality (it won't), they can just... change their policy. That easy.
embedding-shape•21m ago
Did you actually read through that post you linked? You realize not every project that was ever touched by a LLM is being thrown off? Read the "Some early, but informal guidelines" particularly, as you've seemingly missed that.

They're targeting slop and essentially spam, not everything that could possibly have been built by LLMs.

wafflemaker•16m ago
Not OP, but I stand corrected. Thought it was 100% no generated code. Now I know better, thanks! Looks like codeberg aren't as mad as I thought.
ricardobeat•10m ago
Quoting from the post:

    > If you see yourself on this list, you don't need to move right away, but
    there might be other places that better fit your needs:

    - Projects written and maintained with heavy use of LLMs
All of the commits I browsed here seem to be LLM-assisted. Yes, it's fuzzy, and that is a problem - "likely to be tolerated" is not a great policy to have your entire government depending on.

Personally, the refusal on "Projects heavily tied to the LLM ecosystem, e.g. LLM-written tools to ease LLM usage" is enough reason, as that's a good chunk of what I've been working on.

docheinestages•20m ago
Codeberg is trying to solve the right problem with the wrong solution. But hey, it's democratic!
6m ago
Yeah I also wonder about going for NixOS for this. For servers maybe, but for user focussed desktops? The support requirements will be complicated.
vustagc•11m ago
https://meatproxy.me/
russfink•11m ago
Hopefully the config is a little more descriptive than their README.md