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Why Plain Text Is Still One of the Best Technologies We Have

https://deadparrotbbs.com/why-plain-text-is-still-one-of-the-best-technologies-we-have/
60•speckx•1h ago

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ollien•37m ago
Tangential to the actual point of the post, but the talk "Plain text? Really?" by Dylan Beattie[1] is one of my favorite talks. It does a great job capturing the problems with something that "seems" so simple. I think the author of the blog is well aware of these, though :)

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mZBa3sqTrI

FLeXMurphy•37m ago
@dang @tomhow

My understanding is that HN has started incorporating AI tooling in the back-end to scan for LLM-generated submissions and source content, in an effort to discourage it and encourage human-made content (with human discussions, one would hope). Why do we keep having these kinds of articles every day? Entire "apps" are generated - see the lighthouse one - and submitted, and are plain-as-day LLM-generated nonsense.

Anyway, flagged.

john_strinlai•33m ago
they don't get @ mentions, you're better off emailing hn@ycombinator.com
thuruv•32m ago
perused the posts and incidentally all are touching high-octane topics, posted only recently but surely warrants discussion/disputes, clearly an evidence of karma farming!
sthatipamala•16m ago
I skimmed this whole article and didn't see any classic LLM tells about it. Why do you think it is LLM generated?
beej71•16m ago
The is real is real.
grebc•7m ago
I think you’ve posted on an unrelated topic.
sillysaurusx•4m ago
Where did you get that understanding from? I might have missed something. They penalize LLM comments. Do they also penalize submissions? Any evidence of that?
devy•26m ago
Graydon Hoare, the creator of the Rust programming language, wrote his seminal piece on text in 2014. In it, he said "text is the most powerful, useful, effective communication technology ever, period."[1] Text is durable.

[1] https://archive.ph/FhG5L (the original either got deleted or login-walled, here is the archived version)

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?q=always+bet+on+text

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26164001

[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8451271

[5] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10284202

[6] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12815829

drhagen•26m ago
This is the public dividend of a standard finally winning. The article gives credit to Unicode, but it is the fact that ASCII unambiguously won that gives plain text its portability and longevity. It looks like Unicode is on its way to winning in the same way, but it is not there yet. Most text files I write are still pure ASCII because that's the only way to avoid unexpected glitches [0].

[0] Windows newlines not withstanding.

Analemma_•10m ago
If you write files in ASCII you’re already writing in UTF-8.
sillysaurusx•7m ago
That’s true, though if you’re writing UTF-8 you have to handle the corner cases when reading UTF-8, of which there are many.

Fortunately they’re easy to test for and most languages have standard libraries that make this painless.

olexsmir•21m ago
I feel obligated to mention ledger[0] and hledger[1], those are plain text accounting software, well, as you can guess from their names, they allow you to do personal accounting in plain text.

0: https://ledger-cli.org/ 1: https://hledger.org

KK7NIL•9m ago
I prefer the simpler beancount: https://github.com/beancount/beancount

All of these use slightly incompatible formats, the irony of which will not escape the educated reader.

Koshkin•15m ago
"A picture is worth a thousand words"
jaekwon•10m ago
that's why gno.land contracts render to markdown as the standard. you can browse the world through your terminal.

imagine the world wide web but markdown (and decentralized). gno.land is that.

spcebar•6m ago
Fun timing on this plaintext conversation. I built a little browser based plaintext playwriting app this weekend for a little weekend project. Found myself really hating 1. how clunk screenwriting software can be and 2. How unsharable the files are.

With plaintext you can hand the file off to anyone on any device--the caveat being absolutely no one wants to be handed a plaintext script. The software I used ten years ago to write plays is long since deprecated and those files are basically unopenable. Plaintext however remains.

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