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AI was great until it was not

https://thetheorygirlie.substack.com/p/ai-was-great-until-it-was-not
24•JohnHammersley•1h ago

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sdevonoes•17m ago
It’s the same at work. You don’t ask your colleagues for help anymore, you ask the agent. You can clone all the necessary repos, link to confluence/figma/drive and then ask.

It sucks. I don’t care about being efficient (that’s something the executives care about). I care about how I live my life, and at work that means learning from others (and offer the little knowledge I have to others)… if it takes 2 engineers 2h to solve a bug (vs 20 min for 1 engineer and an agent) then thats great for me. I get the chance to exercise my brain, solve a bug, learn from other engineer and have a bond with that individual. If I solve the bug in 20min with an agent, well, that’s something my boss would love, but I personally would have gained nothing… and would have to jump to solve more bugs alone in the remaining 100 minutes (which feels like running a marathon)

bemtevi•8m ago
Efficiency in the short-term also leads to community degradation in the long term. And by efficiency I mean efficiency past the point of diminishing returns. Compiling code by hand would suck, but not writing code at all also sucks.

There is no formula to determine the right level of it, but it's one of those things that's obvious when you see it... like not eating.

glimshe•6m ago
My anecdote is that most of my coworkers across multiple jobs didn't like to explain things. I think most engineers don't like being interrupted for questions and I would have appreciated a way to get answers without bothering them.

At the same time, there's a type of person who loves to explain things. They like to give presentations and are extra helpful when engaged. I'm pretty sure you can still ask them questions.

intended•12m ago
I’m being reminded of “journey before destination”, quite a bit since AI has come out.

Looking at people who are happiest leveraging it, it’s people who want to build something.

The people who are maximizing its utility are those with (deep) pre existing expertise.

For people who want to understand and think deeply about things, it’s … less useful. It can be used to create prototypes, or explain terms.

This is the path that is most precarious. Its utility is entirely dependent on being self motivated learners.

As the article showed, at some point people who want to just build, and don’t care about the learning, will just use ChatGPT to build their homework.

The situation seems like we are consuming the seed stock of expertise.

If evidence turns up of students and new entrants to the labour market finding ways to grow, learn skills or just find employment, the picture would clear up.

bemtevi•10m ago
> In particular, it would be pretty sad to destroy one of the few things that makes our life meaningful, not the fancy prize or the fancy position, but simply having a community to share and discuss and learn.

Exactly. The problem is a weird one though, because there are at least independent forces that are working together here:

(1) The people that are inventing AI or those that are pro-AI are typically those that have been conditioned to enjoy the "information rush" and place personal superificial enjoyment over human interaction. Lots of nerds/geeks simply love the idea of having a playground devoid of the necessity to actual interact outside their microcosm and so they think AI is the best thing since sliced bread. They're often people who were taunted in school or at least partially ostracized early in life because of their intelligence and take emotional comfort in tech.

(2) The perverted incentives of academia reward publishing and in general the incentives of capitalism create an arms race to be as efficient as possible at the cost of goods like "community" that only accrue vague benefits often outside the capitalistic system. So people tend to use AI.

(3) Very advanced technology itself weakens and even destroys smaller communities whose members then seek out technology as a superificial salve to ease what they consciously or subconsciously feel as something missing.

AI was never great. Knowledge as an end in itself is not a good thing and we should seek knowledge to better ourselves in a myriad of ways. But today it's just sought out for material and capitalistic advancement, which prevents our using it to actually become wiser and enjoy the basics of life.

The only people who defend it are those who are already addicted to it, or those who don't want to experience the cognitive dissonance of the truth of its harmful nature.

jakubmazanec•10m ago
Not worth reading. A lot of whining about ChatGPT and lazy Oxford students, not enough substance, only "wisdoms" like "But mirrors can be dangerous if we stay for too long too charmed by our own reflection".
tarkin2•4m ago
Society benefits when in person collaboration builds understanding and creates new ideas and approaches /in both parties/. It's hard to see how AI will replace that. And that's not the mention the further alienation it causes, as heavily alluded to in the article.

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