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Residential proxies detected on White House network

https://layer3intel.com/blog/residential-proxies-white-house-network
195•Rasbora•1h ago

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bronco21016•51m ago
Gotta have your SuperBox set up to watch 24 hr cable news working late into the night.
thehodge•48m ago
That was the first thing I thought of!
JTbane•28m ago
I have seen these at mall kiosks advertising "free cable", and today I learned they are proxying from your home network.
sfmike•40m ago
Vibe coders really having fun on their side quests these days
spiderfarmer•39m ago
That is not an environment for serious people anymore so that's expected.
Bassiestroep•35m ago
I mean supply chain-attacks are everywhere. Smart-TV's with certain marketplace apps, IoT devices. Also, I'm surprised the white house's network is not monitored more.
thombat•25m ago
Monitoring is the easy part, remedying the problems has proved harder. From early in the first Trump administration:

https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/what-can-we-...

mongrelion•35m ago
What is a residential proxy?
gessha•34m ago
Second paragraph
RKearney•33m ago
The 4th sentence in the article has a link to What is a Residential Proxy?[0]

[0]: https://layer3intel.com/what-is-a-residential-proxy

duiker101•33m ago
From the article:

> Residential proxy services sell access to everyday devices, letting customers send traffic through them so it appears to come from that device's network.

whalesalad•32m ago
There are services you can pay for such that you can route internet traffic thru a specific IP in a specific part of the world. People (usually unwillingly and unknowingly) run software that effectively makes them part of a giant botnet. A computer running in Romania might have some kind of weather application or gambling/casino app that I could use to make an HTTP request as if I were on their network. So if you need access to 1,000 or 10,000 IP's to circumvent rate limits or perform crawling tasks, this is how you could do it.
georgel•
vanyle•32m ago
Residential proxies are a very important part of the internet, they allow scraping for archiving, automation and can be used for extra anonymity.

While they have grown a bit too much, they are a natural response to the absurd amount of effort every website is pouring into anti-scraping tech.

georgel•29m ago
I wouldn't call turning on CloudFlare's bot blocker an "absurd amount of effort" from the perspective of site owners.

But getting around it sure is annoying, sometimes I get flagged IP's from Comcast and can't visit sites like costco.com despite not doing any questionable stuff on my network.

sparkling•27m ago
>absurd amount of effort every website is pouring into anti-scraping tech.

Maybe some people do not want to provide their entire website as free training material to [insert LLM lab here]?

squidmaster•26m ago
Virtually all of it is the product of malware. This is like you saying that robbery is very important because you like buying cheap tools at pawnshops.
10111001•24m ago
> Residential proxies are a very important part of the internet, they allow scraping for archiving, automation and can be used for extra anonymity.

Aren't they almost always run unknowingly, by people tricked into running them?

09712306130•31m ago
Seems like the president found a business opportunity and gave internal orders to rent out the network infrastructure to 'ethically sourced' providers :^) Jokes aside, might be some infected IoT crap.

I buy and use residential proxies, though.

btown•30m ago
The danger here, of course, is that while these compromised devices are currently being monetized in a relatively benign way (other than bandwidth costs to the user, which to be sure can be nontrivial)… it would be naive to assume that there isn't a Command and Control capability that can assign less benign tasking - or can be compromised to do so.

This also puts some of the troubling reports that politicians were bringing phones into SCIFs into context…

lesuorac•27m ago
> This also puts some of the troubling reports that politicians were bringing phones into SCIFs into context…

I mean politicians are so addicted to twitter the nsa makes special phones…

JudahNyquist•27m ago
probably something IOT with a vulnerability, happens all the time.
Pissenschaftlom•21m ago
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anpat•18m ago
How would one detect this on their home network and protect themselves from?
blacksmith_tb•13m ago
Step one, find your public IP, I like ipinfo.io but there are many other services that will show it. Then pop it into a tool like the one that's hosting TFA[1]

1: https://layer3intel.com/context

tom1337•11m ago
Check network traffic from smart devices would be a good start. If your TV does gigabytes of traffic in the night when you don’t use it, it most likely is acting as a residential proxy.
EvanAnderson•10m ago
Unexpected traffic would be the biggest gross red flag. If it constrains itself to moving traffic when it's otherwise perform its desired function (if it's one of those "free TV" boxes and it only proxies when you're playing video) it might be hard to tease-out the unwanted traffic purely looking at bytes in/out.

Beyond that gross metric you're getting into capturing traffic and decoding it.

lakeviewterrace•9m ago
So they don't actually know what this network is, just who owns the IP space... time for a blog post!

There is literally nothing that physically ties this to the WH. It could be in a security lab for all they know.

j2kun•8m ago
Out of curiosity, how would I check my own device for a residential proxy?
Retr0id•7m ago
Watch egress at the router for anything unaccounted for, tbh.
engineer_22•6m ago
Oh so this is how they'll justify limiting vpn access
opengrass•6m ago
NSA honeypots
32m ago
There are companies that provide proxy services for scraping services, and residential proxies route through consumer networks (like Comcast) which is flagged less than a datacenter IP.

Many questionable TV streaming boxes pretend to deliver you video, but in reality they are also piggy backing on your personal ISP to power those companies.

sparkling•28m ago
>Many questionable TV streaming boxes

+ Sketchy Apps

+ Malware

+ Weird Android Variants

microcode•20m ago
Even not so questionable TV's do this too. https://spur.us/blog/smart-tv-apps-residential-proxy-sdks
dormento•31m ago
It means some networked devices in there are being remotely piloted to tunnel network traffic to somewhere else. This scenario usually happens with more "unprofessional" ISPs, which sell bandwidth from their networked clients for people in need of such services.

Such as ignoring web scraping countermeasures, and DDoS.

2OEH8eoCRo0•29m ago
Essentially lets bad actors use your home network.
ZoneZealot•27m ago
It's described at a high level in media often. Here's more detail though:

Person buys a product, or downloads some software - that unknowing to them, was reaching out to a central server elsewhere to establish a network tunnel. And over that tunnel, the other server routes traffic onto that person's home network. Which can then of course go onto the internet, and it appears like the traffic originated from their home internet connection.

Other people rent access to this network. The goal being, you have surreptitious access to appear as any one of tens of thousands of home network IP addresses on the public internet. Bad guys can use this to rotate through many different IP addresses when their access gets blocked because of malicious (or benign but unwanted) behavior on the internet. Residential IP addresses are more 'valuable' because they don't have the negative connotation that datacentre and commercial IPs can have, and they can be spread geographically or across many ISPs.

A very common way for people being a part of these residential proxy networks is by buying dodgy streaming boxes, and also installing shady apps on TV app marketplaces.

superjan•13m ago
[delayed]
dabbz•7m ago
There exist services that will pay you a fraction of money to host their residential proxy service on a computer you own. But I do think the majority of residential proxies are hijacked.
xyzzy_plugh•24m ago
Leveraging compromised devices is a very important part of the Internet??? This is an incredibly twisted perspective.

Help me understand. As far as I'm aware, these residential proxies are almost always malware.

Bender•23m ago
Most tools can be dual-use. Residential proxies are also used by malevolent actors to hack infrastructure or financial institutions and let some other poor soul get investigated for it. This is why we can't have nice things.
kube-system•14m ago
They're also used by the good guys who are going after those exact same bad guys.
benjojo12•19m ago
Did a residential proxy provider write this
mcmcmc•16m ago
Frontier lab training data “collector”
mcmcmc•17m ago
Hard disagree. They are malware 99.9% of the time. The utility does not erase the fact they are abusive.
lakeviewterrace•13m ago
"Malware is an important part of the Internet"

> and can be used for extra anonymity

Great, so you can conduct illegal transactions and have some unsuspecting grandma take the blame and have her front door kicked in?

OptionX•13m ago
And making DDoS-attacks nigh impossible to IP block.

Residential proxies are in many cases at least shady, both on the side of who uses them and for what and on providers that are often not above using dark pattern to hide them in some innocuous app for a smart-whatever that silently runs a proxy on a unaware user's connection. And in many places in the world if illegal stuff in done using your connection you are liable, regardless if you knew about it.

Residential proxies detected on White House network

https://layer3intel.com/blog/residential-proxies-white-house-network
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