Sad thing is that I very much agree with the importance of design. But practitioners seem often insecure, inward looking and unconcerned about whether their dreams are actually workable. But they will talk your ear off about the “texture” of a font.
And so we get people making totally reasonable arguments about the value of design and then producing polished but tasteless and shallow corporate products. Or we get people who start understanding the value of maintainable, understandable code, but get stuck on design patterns, "clean code" rules and "best practices" rather than conceptually clear, coherent and effective code design.
I have some sympathy. Getting past that initial hurdle rests on skills and tacit knowledge that take time, practice and mentorship to build after you've developed an appreciation for good taste. And, especially in a corporate setting, you have to get most of that practice and mentorship in public.
There’s a lot of nice looking crap out there.
Don't for get that everything out there is a slop in some way. Apple's core promise since ever was to make computers easy to use and approachable and they improved a lot, enough to charge significant premium over the alternatives.
Computers, software in particular is very low quality across the board. Not just in UX but overall technical implementation is also comically low quality, to the point that contains huge security issues that wouldn't ever pass as acceptable in any pre-computer utilities like microwave ovens or blenders.
Software products most of the time offer no guarantees and it gets very expensive when quality and guarantees are involved through SLA.
It’s not the prettiest app, but works well.
Over the years, I have explored other Git GUI clients (I’m deliberately not calling them out by name), that have sometimes been drastically more attractive, but they have consistently fallen down, when it comes to functionality.
The same goes for my text editor. I’ve been using BBEdit[1] for over 30 years. Again, its interface seems “dated,” compared to many slick apps that have competed with it, but I have always returned to it. I’m pretty sure that it can be customized to present a very modern UI, but I’ve never bothered. The classic presentation has always been fine for me.
I wish I was joking but I've had so many experiences where I built something with a ton of features with a perfect, bug-free UI and simple/clean design but people are like "The UI is basic" but then after spending just a few hours restyling, people will say "This is cool." It's the exact same UI, just a few more rounded corners and animations is all it takes sometimes.
As a developer, sometimes you spend days wiring complex logic together and the user gives you an apathetic shrug... Then you spend 5 minutes adding rounded corners and a subtle drop shadow and then it's like 'WOW, such a good feature', you code fast!
I've witnessed people dump perfectly functioning, great looking websites for more boring but trendy designs with less flexible functionality, more lock-in and higher costs. Design is important to an absurd extent.
Frankly, I don't like modern design trends, it's very information-scarce with huge fonts... Requires so much scrolling, makes my fingers and eyeballs tired from moving back and fourth! Also, I lose my train of thought before I finished reading the first paragraph.
I tried using Microsoft Windows OS after a few years of Linux and was surprised to find that the UI elements were just so massive, it was like trying to read a book through a keyhole! I was wondering WTF happened. It was like a scene out of planet of the apes!
The sad thing about it is that people have very little tolerance for creative designs nowadays; it's very boring/standard. I've seen more than a few memes going around about how logos of major companies have all become the same: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Finsightcre...
It's kind of disturbing. This feels like a systemic issue. I guess people have major trust issues. They have zero tolerance for anything slightly outside of the norm. You have to wonder what about our system makes people so universally distrusting... Well I think I may know the answer to that.
Confidence in manufactured physical objects is more interesting. Discuss.
Raymond Loewy on a good day - The Honeywell Round.[1] The standard little round thermostat. It's still manufactured.[1]
Raymond Loewy on a bad day - the first attempt to make a steam locomotive look streamlined by adding a sheet metal body.[3] This bad idea caught on in the UK, for some reason, resulting in a whole series of difficult to maintain locomotives. Eventually he designed the look of an electric locomotive, the GG-1, which was very successful, looked very good, and had good access to the important working parts.
[1] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/meet-product-desig...
[2] https://www.honeywellstore.com/store/products/the-round-non-...
[3] https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads...
This can join the absurdity of the websites that proclaim _Made with love_.
Marketing nonsense that has nothing to do with functionality, utility, usability may certainly be useful for marketing, promotion, and leveraging nostalgic pangs, but let’s remember that these are usually vacant, sometimes deceptive and often inaccurate.
The deception of beauty and its insidious insertion into many different fields does little to advance those fields and detracts from accuracy, improvement and inevitability reality.
Take Dropbox’s much-debated rebrand. Many on HN dismissed it as superficial. What they missed is that Dropbox’s growth had plateaued. The new visual language wasn’t meant to "improve the product" for existing power users. it was engineered to make the product feel approachable to an audience the company had never reached. It worked.
When designers focus on the measurable business impact of their work—and engineers stop treating design as a decorative afterthought—cross-functional frictions fade and growth compounds.
Measurable business impact -> The dashboard becomes a battlefield and every team wants a modal for their feature release. Dark patterns come hand-in-hand.
I think the world would be better if individual designers focused less on business growth metrics and more on holistic User Experience.
I believe modern UI designers provide me negative value on average. Ugly software is a good sign because tells me no designer was there to ruin it.
IME, the ugliest software has not received much UX nor design work, and so the UX often sucks, too. Gitk comes to mind, it's very ugly and the weird diff scrolling behavior regularly gets me to where I don't want to go.
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It is an obnoxious hassle to replace the batteries on it, and equally so set the clock on it.
So, should I trust thus beautiful design to not be a hassle in daily use..? I long for an ugly parking timer that is easy to use, but those have been driven out of the market by this beauty.
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culturestate•3h ago
1. e.g. https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Park-Micro-Digital-Parking-Approv...