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A new blood type discovered in France: "Gwada negative", a global exception

https://entrevue.fr/en/un-groupe-sanguin-inedit-decouvert-en-france-gwada-negatif-une-exception-mondiale/
64•spidersouris•7h ago

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ajb•4h ago
The OP is low on details. There is more in this article (in french): https://www.lindependant.fr/2025/06/21/il-ny-a-quelle-qui-es...

Apparently the ISBT have added this to their list: https://www.isbtweb.org/isbt-working-parties/rcibgt.html (the page still says 47 but the data tables have it added)

xattt•3h ago
Neither article talks about whether this is a minor or a major antigen.

Blood for transfusion needs to be crossmatched against antigen types of the recipient. Many patients will tolerate several transfusions of a minor mismatched antigen before developing a sensitivity. Major antigens are what cause significant reactions that can be life-threatening.

Minor antigens come into play when crossmatching for infants and premies, but this is way beyond my scope.

yorwba•3h ago
With a single known case of somebody producing antibodies against the antigen, it might be a bit hard to say how many transfusions it typically takes to develop a sensitivity.
JackFr•3h ago
I recently had major surgery and got two units of blood in during the operation and two more post-op. Post-op before I got the blood, they typed my blood again, and a nurse stayed in the room while I got the blood and I wondered why. This comment makes it clear.
xattt•2h ago
Close observation for 15 minutes is typical for any blood transfusion. You do a set of pre-transfusion vitals, vitals when the blood hits the vein, vitals every 5 minutes until 15 minutes is up, vitals every 15 minutes until the blood is done. Ask any nurse why they hate running blood.

Depending on the severity of the reaction, blood will either be stopped or the patient will be loaded up with Benadryl and Tylenol with the blood running at a slower rate.

ajb•2h ago
That's interesting; I didn't know that to realize it was missing.
kimos•50m ago
My clearly incorrect understanding was that there are ~8 blood types. So reading that there are 48 is shocking.
nick238•22m ago
There are 48 blood type systems, of which ABO (giving A, B, AB, and O) and Rh (+/-) can be combined to form the 8 common types.

There are effectively millions of types because all the systems combined combinatorially, but most antigens beyond ABO and Rh don't cause that much of an issue, so in emergency cases, they just go with them.

thaumasiotes•15m ago
Why are A and B considered to belong to the same "system"? They combine with each other combinatorially in exactly the same way that rhesus factor combines with them, and presumably the same way that all other systems combine with all other systems.
thaumasiotes•11m ago
> The discovery of new blood types isn't limited to transfusion emergencies. It also sheds light on certain previously unexplained pathologies. The specialist discusses the recent case of three siblings who had suffered from mysterious rheumatological disorders since adolescence. It was only after identifying their rare blood type that doctors were able to establish a probable link with their symptoms.

How does that work? Were all three siblings regularly receiving donated blood? The article doesn't expand on this at all.

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