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The Article in the Most Languages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-08-09/Disinformation_report
70•vhcr•3d ago

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latexr•3d ago
This is not interesting than the title initially suggests. It’s not merely a curiosity, but an investigation:

> I discovered what I think might have been the single largest self-promotion operation in Wikipedia’s history, spanning over a decade and covering as many as 200 accounts and even more proxy IP addresses.

decimalenough•2h ago
Quite the contrary, the story is rather fascinating. (Or did you mean to say "more interesting"?)

If you want even more gruesome details, the story of how this all unraveled plus all sorts of info about Woodard, a positively creepy while supremacist, can be found on the English article's talk page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:David_Woodard/Archive_1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:David_Woodard

And with this anomaly removed, the list of articles in the most languages is back to what you'd expect: the top 10 is all large countries and Wikipedia itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikiped...

brabel•2h ago
So they only got caught because they were too efficient in their scheme and rose to number 1 in translations. How many more schemes go unnoticed? Not saying Wikipedia is not doing a great job, just saying that there is probably a lot of such schemes and that it seems nearly impossible to stop them all. It’s sad that a lot of people don’t want the truth to be available, at least when it concerns themselves, they want you to only know what they think you should, like on their Instagram.
drdeca•2h ago
Though, if you restrict to just people, then, surprisingly, Corbin Bleu is #20 .
colbyn•2h ago
I thought this was referring to articles as in the part of speech (i.e. there are nouns, verbs, but also article like “a” or “the”) given the title and something spanning across languages… I wonder what his exact thought process was that motivated all that effort?
_3u10•2h ago
Paraguay no existe.
kunley•1h ago
Honestly, what kind of harm was it?
varjag•1h ago
If you let astroturfing happen on Wikipedia grounds it'll become a piece of useless crap just like the much of the rest of Internet. If you read the report you'll learn that the promoters weren't content just with their own entry but tried to sneak in references into unrelated popular articles.
decimalenough•1h ago
Yup. From the report: On the English Wikipedia alone, Woodard’s name was inserted into no fewer than 93 articles, including Pliers, Brown pelican and Bundesautobahn 38.
NobodyNada•1h ago
This came up on HN a few months ago, when someone posted a list of most-translated articles and Woodard was at the top: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44031697

It looks like a user in the HN thread noticed the irregularities on the Italian Wikipedia [0] and started the deletion discussion [1] that the article credits with kickstarting this investigation.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44035222

[1]: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pagine_da_cancellare...

BrenBarn•28m ago
Fascinating! A detective story for our age.
Myrmornis•28m ago
For some subjects, it's appropriate to host multiple versions of articles written natively in different languages.

But for other subjects, for example science and mathematics, it does a huge disservice to non-English readers: it means that their Wikipedia is second-rate, or worse.

Wikipedia should, in science, mathematics, and other subjects that do not have cultural inflection, use machine translation so that all articles in all languages are translations of the same underlying semantic content.

It would still be written by humans. But ML / LLMs would be involved in the editing pipeline so that people lacking a common language can edit the same text.

This is the biggest mistake Wikipedia's made IMO: it privileges English readers since the English content is highest quality in most areas that are not culturally specific, and I do not think that it's an organization that wants to privilege English readers.

decimalenough•23m ago
Users can already translate English Wikipedia articles to other languages on the fly with Chrome etc. However, the quality of the translation is just not up to scratch yet, particularly for languages that are radically different from English; just try reading some ML-translated Japanese or Chinese Wikipedia articles.
nickm12•14m ago
...and I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!

I find it interesting that the whole scheme might not have been noticed had he been more modest and not tried to translate the pages into rare languages. We don't know the motive, but if it was self-promotion, these additional languages were presumably of negligible value yet risked the scheme.

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