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Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

https://fortune.com/2025/08/11/starbucks-south-korea-policy-desktop-computer-printer-ban-cagongjok/
56•zdw•9h ago

Comments

pstuart•3h ago
Seems like an opportunity for a coworking-lite space -- rent a seat/desk spot for 1 hour blocks.
worthless-trash•3h ago
With starbucks delivery, starbucks printing, etc.
SparkyMcUnicorn•3h ago
I somehow doubt that people are lugging a desktop and printer around the city, only to set it up and work for 1 hour in Starbucks.
recursivecaveat•2h ago
They actually have exactly that for gaming: a "pc bang" like a internet cafe. I wonder if it has been tried in earnest for co-working. You would think it is an easier business so long as the demand is there.
iojcde•8m ago
There's also study cafes, which are aimed more primarily at students but often have working spaces for laptop use. These are quiet spaces to focus compared to something like Starbucks or PC bangs though.
bryanhogan•2h ago
There's already a large offering of such spaces in Korea. You have cafes where you can bring your laptop and work in peace, there's pc cafes / pc bangs which are more for gaming but provide a desktop, there are places where you can rent co-working spaces or spaces for co-working that you can use with a membership.
Oreb•1h ago
Isn’t that how most coworking spaces work already? I’ve worked from a lot of them, and it always worked like that: I check in when I arrive in the morning, and when I check out at the end of the day, I pay for the number of hours I have spent there (often capped to a maximum of 5 hours or so, even if I stay longer).
arkh•1h ago
What a novel concept!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_bang

_rm•3h ago
I feel genuinely sad for anyone who's in such a desperate spot that they're doing this
pfannkuchen•3h ago
What makes you think they’re desperate? IME people from Asian cultures sometimes have ways of thinking that strike at least me personally as basically alien. And then my brain interpolates their motives wrong based on biases that are shaped by western versions of politeness etc.
shinycode•2h ago
People bring printers to Starbucks… really ? I’m kind of surprised it feels like an abuse to me o_O it would never cross my mind
arkh•1h ago
South Korea is cyber café country. If you open a café there, people expect some specific services.

I guess the fact people come with PCs and printer is a way to demonstrate how they don't want this part of US culture and would like to keep theirs. So either adapt and start offering PC bang in South Korea or go home.

somedude895•1h ago
Or you know, you could just not go there if you don't like the place rather than be a prick to people who work there and customers who like going there.
thrown-0825•34m ago
Hard to do when starbucks is a real estate holding company that sells coffee. They have sucked all the air out of the cafe space and driven out their competitors.
robin_reala•1h ago
There needs to be a resurrection of the Canon NoteJet laptops.
falcor84•32m ago
Ooh, yes I want one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_NoteJet

miohtama•2h ago
The solution is to bring back cybercafes, or cafes which were set up up to go online. Such culture existed in the 90s but was then ended by the widespread online accessibility by home ADSL and later mobile internet.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/worlds-first-ever-cyber-cafe...

bryanhogan•2h ago
South Korea has many pc cafes, so called pc bangs / pc방, and there are also many study cafes where you can work for long periods.
ljf•2h ago
The 'problem' with those for remote workers is that you pay per minute/hour in a cybercafe - in a normal coffee shop you can just nurse one coffee for hours and pay a single low cost (and get a coffee).

I can't remember the name of it now but back in 2010s there was an 'OK' managed drop-in office space you could rent for £10 a day in central London - which came with free coffee and printing - I haven't looked at the prices lately.

ykonstant•32m ago
Cybercafes are already a big thing in SK, but why is the above comment downvoted? I, for one, miss net cafes very much. They used to be big in Greece, and I made many many dear friendships in small, cozy net cafes.

I can recount hilarious and even heartwarming stories; turns out that having a cafe (i.e. leisure space) with computers used by people in close proximity makes for dynamics and interactions that you cannot recreate with remote connections.

bryanhogan•2h ago
Having lived in Korea, I have always enjoyed the cafe culture. Starbucks there is known for accepting you to work there. Although I haven't seen anyone bring a printer yet, some do bring extra stuff such as a stand for their laptop that take up a lot of space.

The only thing this article mentions is that Starbucks prohibits people of bringing stuff that would take up more than a single seat, which seems reasonable?

ChrisMarshallNY•32m ago
I used to travel with a Canon PIXMA printer. Quite portable. Could carry a laptop and printer in a small backpack. The paper was heavy, though.
cryptoz•2h ago
Reminds me of the Improv Everywhere sketch where they did this exact thing.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EKEeHREK2nQ

paranoidrobot•1h ago
I thought about Improv Everywhere recently - they had some great things in the early 2000s.

Re watching this, at about 1:16 one of the agents looks familiar. "Huh, she looks kinda like Aubrey Plaza". Then the credits come on: It was actually Aubrey Plaza.

tennisflyi•1h ago
I thought that too!
tennisflyi•1h ago
17 years ago - wow!
jiehong•2h ago
Or maybe Starbucks should install a common printer with a fee?

The large items policy still makes sense, though

sschueller•1h ago
That will ruin them at $1,500 to $2,000 per litre of ink...
unglaublich•1h ago
They could provide Starbucks branded ink of which 95% of the cost is licensing fees which they pay out tax-free to themselves.
codeulike•1h ago
They could scribble each customers name on the printouts with a sharpie

"Got a flat black and white parking ticket appeal form for Kim"

ykonstant•37m ago
- Name?

- Sauron.

- Sharon it is.

krogenx•1h ago
Maybe they could do some R&D to see if coffee could be used as ink.
londons_explore•16m ago
I just put coffee in my printer to see...

It kinda works, but the printouts are very faint.

I was expecting it to clog immediately (the jets are ~10um), but it didn't.

ctxc•5m ago
Damn. The kind of friends I need in my life.
cm2187•1h ago
Is that a business they even want, someone occupying a seat for 8 hours only to consume two coffees?
PaulRobinson•1h ago
They'd rather that than an empty seat, especially if that person is turning up 5-6 days/week.

Most coffee shops where I live (London, UK, specifically out in West London) are at best 20% full through most of the day, that's a lot of dead real estate not paying for itself.

When I tried working out of coffee shops a bit some years ago the "etiquette" seemed to be ~1 drink/hour to pay for your seat. I don't like coffee that much, so was consuming more like 0.66/hour (i.e. around 2 drinks every 3 hours), and people were fine with that, as it was effectively a rent payment of £20/day, or £100/week, which is a little under what a hotdesk would cost me in the same area but with a lot more flexibility (never pay for idle!), and of course its good margin sales for them.

Of course, they could just say "no laptops". There's a pub chain in the UK that did that (Sam Smith's - no screens, no swearing), but the rule is not widely followed or enforced and where it is the pubs are empty far more than the ones that welcome customers.

sandspar•1h ago
It's hard to run a global business. Different people have such different ways of doing things. Every day, tens of millions of people run pen tests on Starbuck's rules. And Starbuck's front line of defence? A bunch of shy college student baristas.
thrown-0825•16m ago
Most of those people arent in college, especially outside the US.
dominicrose•23m ago
Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway. I guess some people still have their old computer and a lot of south korenas are gamers, but laptops are just better overall because of the portability. If people bring printerS pural then starbuck could "just" have a free-ish printer
littlestymaar•13m ago
Anyone who doesn't need to work while traveling actually.

A desktop is both cheaper (at the same spec), while being much more durable due to being upgradable and reparable.

Sure laptop win in terms of portability, but since we can do so much on our phone, I don't really feel the need to bring a computer with me everywhere.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF•11m ago
They used to be cheaper. Might still be?

I've had mine about ten years and it's still on the original CPU and mobo and PSU I think. I've probably saved a few hundred bucks from not buying another whole computer. It might not be as fast as a new laptop but it has more RAM and storage than most.

If I want to go into LLM stuff I will buy a newish used GPU for it. If the CPU is a bottleneck then I'll get a new mobo but I won't need a new chassis or PSU maybe ever. And the hard drives just rotate as I buy bigger ones

okasaki•11m ago
Laptops are terrible -

- Too small

- too loud

- too hot

- too few ports

- fake performance (good luck with your 105W "5090")

- OS confusion about active screen, keyboard and mouse (how many times have I experienced that only the built-in keyboard works during booting, or the OS showing the login screen on only the built-in screen),

- most of them have to be open or have ports in awkward places, and take up space comparable to a desktop.

senko•4m ago
[delayed]
jwr•13m ago
In Tokyo, coffee shops seem to have embraced the work culture. Tables and seating have been adapted to working, and you often get a receipt with the time when you are expected to leave printed on it. Most (if not all) people in a Tully's in Tokyo are there to work.

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