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Doing well in your courses: Andrej's advice for success (2013)

https://cs.stanford.edu/people/karpathy/advice.html
69•peterkshultz•1h ago•20 comments

What Are RFCs? The Forgotten Blueprints of the Internet

https://ackreq.github.io/posts/what-are-rfcs/
48•ackreq•2h ago•36 comments

The Trinary Dream Endures

https://www.robinsloan.com/lab/trinary-dream/
11•FromTheArchives•56m ago•7 comments

Replacement.ai

https://replacement.ai
629•wh313•4h ago•398 comments

Comparing the power consumption of a 30 year old refrigerator to a brand new one

https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2025/10/14/fridge-power-consumption/
50•furkansahin•5d ago•50 comments

Show HN: Duck-UI – Browser-Based SQL IDE for DuckDB

https://demo.duckui.com
135•caioricciuti•6h ago•42 comments

How to Assemble an Electric Heating Element from Scratch

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2025/10/how-to-build-an-electric-heating-element-from-scratch/
38•surprisetalk•4h ago•19 comments

Infisical (YC W23) Is Hiring Full Stack Engineers

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/infisical/jobs/0gY2Da1-full-stack-engineer-global
1•vmatsiiako•53m ago

Show HN: Pyversity – Fast Result Diversification for Retrieval and RAG

https://github.com/Pringled/pyversity
33•Tananon•3h ago•2 comments

The case for the return of fine-tuning

https://welovesota.com/article/the-case-for-the-return-of-fine-tuning
96•nanark•8h ago•42 comments

The macOS LC_COLLATE hunt: Or why does sort order differently on macOS and Linux

https://blog.zhimingwang.org/macos-lc_collate-hunt
31•g0xA52A2A•4h ago•4 comments

The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

https://www.wired.com/story/the-zipper-is-getting-its-first-major-upgrade-in-100-years/
46•bookofjoe•2h ago•52 comments

Show HN: Notepad.exe – macOS editor for Swift and Python (now Linux runtime)

https://notepadexe.com/
6•krzyzanowskim•1h ago•1 comments

Why an abundance of choice is not the same as freedom

https://aeon.co/essays/why-an-abundance-of-choice-is-not-the-same-as-freedom
63•herbertl•2h ago•26 comments

Abandoned land drives dangerous heat in Houston, study finds

https://stories.tamu.edu/news/2025/10/07/abandoned-land-drives-dangerous-heat-in-houston-texas-am...
83•PaulHoule•4h ago•78 comments

Xubuntu.org Might Be Compromised

https://old.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1oa4549/xubuntuorg_might_be_compromised/
176•kekqqq•3h ago•63 comments

The Spherical Cows of Programming

https://programmingsimplicity.substack.com/p/the-spherical-cows-of-programming
16•whobre•2h ago•18 comments

Lost Jack Kerouac story found among assassinated mafia boss' belongings

https://www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/lost-jack-kerouac-chapter-found-mafia-boss-estate-21098...
72•rmason•4d ago•39 comments

Thieves steal crown jewels in 4 minutes from Louvre Museum

https://apnews.com/article/france-louvre-museum-robbery-a3687f330a43e0aaff68c732c4b2585b
42•malshe•1h ago•10 comments

Improving PixelMelt's Kindle Web Deobfuscator

https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/10/improving-pixelmelts-kindle-web-deobfuscator/
59•ColinWright•5h ago•13 comments

Windows 11 25H2 October Update Bug Renders Recovery Environment Unusable

https://www.techpowerup.com/342032/windows-11-25h2-october-update-bug-renders-recovery-environmen...
35•MaximilianEmel•1h ago•11 comments

Scheme Reports at Fifty

https://crumbles.blog/posts/2025-10-18-scheme-reports-at-fifty.html
7•djwatson24•3h ago•0 comments

Show HN: Open-Source Voice AI Badge Powered by ESP32+WebRTC

https://github.com/VapiAI/vapicon-2025-hardware-workshop
19•Sean-Der•1w ago•3 comments

EQ: A video about all forms of equalizers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLAt95PrwL4
234•robinhouston•1d ago•67 comments

Feed me up, Scotty – custom RSS feed generation using CSS selectors

https://feed-me-up-scotty.vincenttunru.com/
18•diymaker•4h ago•4 comments

When Pollution Spikes in Southeast Asia, Rainfall Shifts from Land to Sea

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/southeast-asia-aerosols-rainfall?asds
14•Brajeshwar•1h ago•0 comments

I wish SSDs gave you CPU performance style metrics about their activity

https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/SSDWritePerfMetricsWish
7•ingve•40m ago•1 comments

OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

https://the-decoder.com/leading-openai-researcher-announced-a-gpt-5-math-breakthrough-that-never-...
273•Topfi•6h ago•175 comments

GNU Octave Meets JupyterLite: Compute Anywhere, Anytime

https://blog.jupyter.org/gnu-octave-meets-jupyterlite-compute-anywhere-anytime-8b033afbbcdc
6•bauta-steen•2h ago•0 comments

A Tower on Billionaires' Row Is Full of Cracks. Who's to Blame?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/19/nyregion/432-park-avenue-condo-tower.html
86•danso•5h ago•55 comments
Open in hackernews

With deadline looming 4 of 9 universities reject Trumps pact to remake higher ed

https://arstechnica.com/culture/2025/10/with-deadline-looming-4-of-9-universities-reject-trumps-compact-to-remake-higher-ed/
82•Bender•2h ago

Comments

andrewflnr•1h ago
So is that 4 of 9 so far, with the others not answering yet? 5 still deliberating vs 5 bent knees are two very different stories.
quickthrowman•1h ago
None of the 9 colleges have accepted so far, according to this article that was linked at the bottom of the article we are discussing: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/no-takers-yet-white-hous...

They should have noted this in the article we are discussing since it does change the story, as you said.

overfeed•1m ago
University of Texas put out a public statement early on, sounding very receptive and praising the Trump administration.
bookofjoe•1h ago
Up to 6 now: MIT Brown Penn University of Virginia Dartmouth University of Southern California

No response yet (due tomorrow BTW) from: Vanderbilt University of Texas University of Arizona

aliljet•1h ago
Having casually attended one of these schools, I'm so confused about why they are even in this group. What is making this group of schools best suited for this sort of blackmail?
patagurbon•1h ago
It does seem fairly arbitrary. It’s not a list of schools with big labs, since Hopkins or Berkeley aren’t there. It doesn’t seem to be private vs state schools, it’s not Ivy League or blue state only.

One potential reason to select a diverse set would be to point to a few who may be forced to accept by their state governments as examples to paint the refusers in a negative light.

dboreham•12m ago
There's probably some piece on Fox News, or a blog post from some influencer that cites these institutions. Most regime policy begins with some media outrage like this. You and I aren't exposed to that content so it seems arbitrary.

I first realized this decades ago when I ran into someone socially who started on about how evil the red cross was. I'm like wtf? Then did some research and discovered some fringe belief originating in the Vietnam war. There are thousands of oddball grievances like this.

atomicnumber3•1h ago
I'm glad to see states fighting back, finally. I was never really too sure if, from a purely academic point of view, I thought a stronger federal government ("united we stand, divided we fall") or more independent states were a better "system".

But I think the way the US is set up (districting, gerrymandering, redlined, electoral college, etc) makes it far too easy for fringe beliefs to take over and dictate policy. So having states simply being more independent puts up far more barriers to all of us just losing our freedom.

I live in IL. (Not near Chicago). My kids public school only gets about 15% of its funding from the federal govt. We could just finally stop having our stupid flat income tax and make up the shortfall. It might set back the universal preschool system, perhaps (which would be a tragedy but better than complete destruction).

Meanwhile, schools might not even exist in many other states if federal funding disappeared.

quotemstr•57m ago
> states fighting back

Fight back against _what_? Look: our universities really do need reform, and the perceptive observer should be able to see that independent of political opinions. The current administration may be an imperfect vehicle for reform, but I don't see anyone else trying.

In particular, universities need to return to pursuing truth. Not every department at every school has abandoned the goal of seeking pure knowledge, granted, but the reality is that many have oriented themselves towards building a "better world" by preaching (there is no other word) the "right" ideas well past the point where they intersect with the real world.

It is damn hard for me to muster sympathy for the universities. I recall that they spent a decade demanding statements of ideological affiliation as a precondition of hiring, that they pollute the epistemic commons by suppressing inconvenient facts, and that they rationale injustice against individuals by gesturing at universal, cosmic justice that they claim they alone have the power to discern.

I see no reason to send public money to seminaries that have murdered universities, donned their skins, and demand respect as institutes of knowledge.

convolvatron•51m ago
the right answer to ideological purity tests is not more ideological purity tests
quotemstr•47m ago
The universities started the purity tests. Did they think they alone would decide which ones to administer? I hope we restore free speech norms one day. I don't see the nine embattled universities as stalwart defenders of free speech. I see them as hypocrites who demand an unearned right to censor in their preferred direction and at the public expense. I'm no fan of censorship of anyone, but damn, these administrators and faculty have it coming to them.
patagurbon•43m ago
An eye for an eye is not how scientific progress is made.
quotemstr•36m ago
There's no conflict between 1) wishing nobody's eye be put out, and 2) thinking chronic and unrepentant eye-pokers have got it coming good and hard.

The universities can stop the pain any time they want. All they have to do is recommit, seriously, to free speech and free pursuit of knowledge.

What the universities are doing now is not conducive to scientific knowledge either. In fact, they produce a lot of anti-knowledge.

patagurbon•7m ago
What are “they” doing now that is not conducive to scientific knowledge?

> they produce a lot of anti-knowledge

Regardless of the hilarity of that phrase being associated with universities over the attention driven news and internet that is both: 1. Meaninglessly broad and intentionally vague 2. Part of the process of science. For decades most of the genome was believed to be garbage. It was through academic research that this knowledge has been rebutted and replaced not by politics or regulation. This identical process occurs from philosophy to gender studies and physics to climate science.

whoisthemachine•20m ago
Are these university administrations the government? Because any private entity is free to censor as much as they want (as we have seen with many entities after Charlie Kirk's murder).

Saying "this private entity censored so now the government can" is not the argument you think it is.

Levitz•10m ago
We are not talking about freedoms the entities have, we are talking about what is right. The government surely has the freedom to allocate their funds in whatever way they please.
wtcactus•2m ago
This all measure is about making sure that private faculties can obey continue censoring whatever they want, as long as they don’t get public money.

If they want to be free and private, they can do so with their own money.

ryandrake•9m ago
This comment is pretty vague and full of insinuations. What are these terrible "right" ideas that you object to? Go on, be specific and name them.
silisili•56m ago
I've always thought more state power was probably a good thing - the US is simply so huge and diverse in thought and religion that you'll always be upsetting a large swath of people no matter what you decide.

That said, as a fly on the wall, my obvious observation from people at large is a direct correlation between how much power they believe states should have and whether or not they belong to the party in power. So it's definitely worth the exercise of seeing if you'd feel the same way still if your exact clone ran the federal government.

pathartl•42m ago
The primary issue with state power is human rights. If you don't guarantee certain rights, some other state will gladly exploit its citizens.

The neverending struggle of course is what does one consider a human right.

patagurbon•3m ago
There is a fundamental issue with this kind of federalism though in that it increases strife and could easily lead to civil war.

Let’s say we get rid of Medicare, Medicaid, social security, and research funding at the federal level. What happens next?

The West Coast and North East form compacts, companies, or nonprofits that provide healthcare, retirement and funding for their schools. The south, parts of the Midwest, and the plains fail to do so (at least to the same level) and within a generation we have two separate countries and war.

FridayoLeary•1h ago
These are the main policy points[1]

1.Equality in admissions- with certain exceptions, universities have to publish and commit to objective criteria for accepting new students.

2.Marketplace of ideas and civil discourse - a bit vague, but basically calling for non violent exchanges of opinions and ideas, specifically not discriminating against conservatives, who frankly are a significant minority at universities.

3.Nondiscrimination in faculty and administrative hiring

4.Institutional neutrality - frankly i'm not sure what that's supposed to mean

5.Student learning -Signatories must make certain “grade integrity” commitments, including neither “inflat[ing]” nor “deflat[ing]” grades for any “non-academic reason.”

6.Student equality -Signatories must treat students “as individuals and not on the basis of their immutable characteristics, with due exceptions for sex-based privacy, safety, and fairness”

7.Financial responsibility - a raft of ideas aimed at protecting students

8. More restrictions on foreign student admissions etc.

9.enforcement

[1]i got all my information from this article:https://www.ropesgray.com/en/insights/alerts/2025/10/white-h...

sidle_arount•1h ago
These all sound like reasonable standards for universities to meet.

The only unnecessary part is explicitly calling out conservative opinions, some of which will have no place in some university subjects, e.g. a geology student insisting the Earth is 6000 years old.

nine_zeros•1h ago
These are all reasonable standards - if they came from Congress. They are not reasonable standards if they came for a fickle and corrupt mafia at gunpoint.

The entire no kings protest is exactly about that - executive overreach overriding will of the people and causing irresponsible harm.

sidle_arount•58m ago
I'm not sure I follow your argument. If these would be considered reasonable standards if exactly the same were proposed by Congress, then how would they cause harm if implemented on request of the Executive?
nine_zeros•43m ago
When requested by the executive under threat of cutting funding, these requests are not requests, they are demands.

When executive demands something of private citizens and private entities, it means they are bossing over said people/entities. Nobody elected the executive to boss over people. When Congress attempts to set these same regulations, these entities get a chance to reach out to their reps and ask for changes. When Congress sets regulations, power is dispersed among 400+ reps.

You are thinking about the outcome of the regulations feeling the same. "No kings" are demanding that the means to setting rules be distributed among reps - when the rulemaking is distributed, you'll find that the rules demanded will change - because most people don't want these exact rules as they stand. And they don't want to submit to a fickle corrupt executive who will change these rules selectively on a dime on a random Friday.

thesmtsolver•50m ago
If they are "reasonable standards", it shouldn't matter what the source of them are.

This appeals to a dangerous view of morality where some entities/people are good/bad intrinsically and all their actions are good/bad by definition.

nine_zeros•41m ago
They are not objectively "reasonable standards". Who said they are objectively reasonable standards? They are standards sent by a unitary. They might seem reasonable to one person but not to another. This is why Congress is supposed to set these rules - so that the definition of reasonable is spread all over the country. Reasonable standards are a discovery process, not a unitary dictatorial step.

Hell, this is the whole logic of the American Republic - no kings - since 1776.

patagurbon•36m ago
They are not reasonable. Ideological “balance” has no place in any of the sciences. Science is about truth not balance.
nine_zeros•34m ago
Yes, they are not objectively "reasonable" that's why I added the "- if they came from Congress" part. And I can't imagine Congress would pass these rules because of the Senate structure.

"Reasonable" is a distributed discovery process. A unitary order can never be "reasonable".

deeg•16m ago
The government has no business making ideological demands on universities. Period.
nine_zeros•12m ago
Yep, they don't. That's why these demands are bogus coming from the president.

If they were to come from Congress, they'd never pass as they stand because these entities would demand their elected reps don't let this pass

qcnguy•54m ago
They are reasonable standards which is why it says a lot they're all rejecting them.

There's really no point trying to reform universities. They're completely dominated by ideological extremists who will go to the wall to preserve their academic freedom to be racist, sexist and full of intellectual fraud. Society doesn't need them either. The few professions that really need extensive technical training can run their own schools. The research is best done in corporate labs. The world doesn't need millions of P-hacked social studies papers.

ternaryoperator•52m ago
It reads as reasonable but is really saying: no diversity hires. That’s more significant in universities than in the job market. In general, the most educated Americans are the children of the wealthy. So without DEI, the faculty, which is thereby a product of the economic elite, will be teaching primarily the children of that elite. Universities recognized the problem with this closed system long ago and used DEI as a way to address it. That’s what the Trump administration is targeting in part with these compacts.
jasonlotito•43m ago
They do push DEI, just for conservative voices. Remember, DEI is good when it's for conservatives. Just see how many people are complaining about the Super Bowl halftime show. A bunch of anit-DEI people asking for DEI is crazy.
Levitz•31m ago
>Universities recognized the problem with this closed system long ago and used DEI as a way to address it.

That's preposterous. It's obscenely disingenuous to now pretend that DEI was about class and economic status. Are women just poorer? Are Asians just richer? Please.

hypeatei•23m ago
DEI is about expanding the talent pools and considering more people for something. If you have problems with specific implementations of DEI, that's fine, but to pretend it's all bad is disingenuous. Please list a specific program that you have an issue with so that people can actually discuss substance.
jasonlotito•45m ago
They sound good because they are being presented in a pleasant way that undermines that reality of what these requests are. First, adherence to this agreement shall be subject to review by the Department of Justice. Basically, the current administration can dictate what constitutes a violation. The government gets to dictate what is passing and what is not passing.

Basically, this is the government having a direct hand in dictating what the schools that receive government funding can say and do, full stop.

Further, this is a potential violation of the current administrations desire to eradicate DEI as this compact literally promotes DEI. So it's an odd request.

It's also a massive violation of the freedom of speech.

> Signatories shall maintain institutional neutrality at all levels of their administration. This requires policies that all university employees, in their capacity as university representatives, will abstain from actions or speech relating to societal and political events except in cases in which external events have a direct impact upon the university.

So, no one employed by the university can speak about societal or political events unless it has a direct impact on the university. Imagine not being able to talk about modern events in the classroom? I was doing this in high school in the 90s in Missouri!

And now the administration wants to take that away.

There are many reasons this is bad. But predominantly it's this: I get to decide what any of this means. So you have to defend this from MY POV, because this establishes me as the ultimate arbiter here.

* Why me? Because it's whoever is in charge at the time, which means you need to be able to defend the merits of this when it doesn't necessarily fit your wants or needs. Which means me.

elbows•44m ago
They mostly sound reasonable at a bullet-point level, but reading closer turns up details such as:

> Signatories must commit to “defining and otherwise interpreting ‘male,’ ‘female,’ ‘woman,’ and ‘man’ according to reproductive function and biological processes.”

Which is not exactly ideological neutral.

brendoelfrendo•39m ago
They are reasonable only if you do not read between the lines or think critically about how the administration will choose to interpret and enforce these standards against the universities in question.
BoredPositron•45m ago
As always summaries only paint a shallow picture.

This is the original compact https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/1...

1 The Compact explicitly makes federal funding conditional on compliance, meaning that universities must either align with federal definitions of “excellence” and “neutrality” or lose access to research grants, contracts, student loans, and tax exemptions. In practice, this could establish a centralized federal control mechanism over university policies effectively nationalizing large portions of higher education decision-making without direct legislation.

Sections 2 and 4 (“Marketplace of Ideas” and “Institutional Neutrality”) appear to promote pluralism, but they impose mandatory structural changes to ensure “no single ideology dominant”. This could require ideological balancing in faculty hiring, curricula, and departmental governance. The threat of Department of Justice enforcement transforms “neutrality” into a federally monitored ideological litmus test, likely constraining academic freedom more than protecting it.

Section 6 defines “male,” “female,” “woman,” and “man” strictly by biological function and requires single-sex spaces to be maintained on that basis. This departs from current federal civil rights interpretations under Title IX and would effectively prohibit recognition of gender identity in campus policy rolling back existing protections for transgender and nonbinary students.

By forbidding universities from commenting institutionally on “societal and political events” unless directly related to operations, the Compact silences institutional voices on issues like racial justice, climate change, or foreign policy—even if faculty consensus supports public engagement. The “marketplace of ideas” clause simultaneously allows punishment of university employees or centers deemed “dominant” in ideology, directly threatening critical studies programs (e.g., gender studies, ethnic studies).

Section 8 introduces anti-money-laundering and KYC requirements typically reserved for banks, applied here to universities. It also mandates information sharing with DHS and the State Department and caps foreign student enrollment at 15%, with a 5% per-country limit. Combined with civics instruction requirements for foreigners, this moves higher education toward national security oversight and ideological vetting creating a form of state-managed educational nationalism.

The enforcement section deputizes the Department of Justice to investigate compliance and allows it to reclaim all federal funds and even PRIVATE contributions during a violation year. This mechanism represents an extraordinary form of financial coercion that could bankrupt noncompliant universities, effectively forcing universal submission or privatization.

brianwawok•1h ago
Many schools without huge endowments are in a tough spot, they really need the federal money but it goes against everything that they have fought for, for a very long time. I don’t envy those having to make these decisions.
hypeatei•1h ago
We've observed what happens when you cave to Trump and his goons: they will want more and turn on you anyway. ABC settled and paid Trump $16M just for his FCC chair to later threaten their license over Jimmy Kimmel's comments. I'm glad these universities have a spine and aren't signing onto this attempt at an authoritarian takeover of higher education.
ternaryoperator•1h ago
Univ of Virginia announced yesterday they would no sign. So now it’s five universities.
Levitz•59m ago
>“If any California university signs this radical agreement, they’ll lose billions in state funding—including Cal grants—instantly,” California Governor Gavin Newsom wrote after the compact was released. “California will not bankroll schools that sell out their students, professors, researchers, and surrender academic freedom.”

I don't think this is meant to be funny but it definitely is.

patagurbon•45m ago
This push to force ideological “balance” on universities is incredibly dangerous. The pursuit of truth is difficult and has its pitfalls but it naturally leads to the dominance of certain viewpoints, which hopefully approximate the truth.

What the Feds are doing here is just a hop skip and a jump from forcing universities to hire young Earth creationists alongside archaeologists, climate change deniers alongside climate scientists, etc.

Universities and the research they do must inform politics, but the reverse risks destroying the research enterprise all together.

quotemstr•41m ago
> The pursuit of truth is difficult and has its pitfalls but it naturally leads to the dominance of certain viewpoints, which hopefully approximate the truth.

Consider crime. Restorative justice has failed everywhere it's been tried . Utterly. Comprehensively. Totally. Everywhere it's tried, restorative justice increases crime and degrades the public spirit.

Yet universities continue to push it, despite all evidence, because it flatters a certain worldview. That this viewpoint is universal in academia isn't the organic victory of a good idea, but ideological groupthink that becomes a menace to society when it escapes the quad.

And it's not only that equitable justice is the dominant viewpoint: it's that no competing viewpoint are allowed. To disagree is to be a bad person, and universities today wield every institutional weapon they have against "bad" people who hold "bad" ideas. This is not an environment conducive to knowledge formation.

No university department that pushes "equitable justice" as summa bonum should receive public money. It's just nonsense.

So it is for many university programs these days. As J.S. Mill wrote: "He who knows only his own side of the case, knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side; if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion."

bonsai_spool•26m ago
> Yet universities continue to push it, despite all evidence, because it flatters a certain worldview

> So it is for many university programs

There should be a 'marketplace of ideas' which absolutely does not mean that your ideas should be the only ones you identify in universities. It doesn't even mean that you should see your ideas in any university. Just that, if you make suasive statements, you will attract followers—and maybe you can go ahead and make your own university.

The real problem that this sort of 'DEI-killed-all-intellectual-sophistication' arguments elide is that we're not educating our children (any of them, purple, green, or whatever race you wish), and instead are feeding them social media and other attention-grabbing things.

On top of that, those of us who follow right-of-center media now have this continual push to believe even more far-fetched things daily. So how can you possibly imagine that right-of-center thinking will have a place in the marketplace if one element of being right-of-center is rejecting truth?

patagurbon•25m ago
> universities pushing restorative justice

Universities? Can you point to a university whose explicit policy is restorative justice? That’s not how universities generally work. You’re probably taking issue with an individual department which naturally has a certain research and academic history.

Are you prepared to cite the works prepared and researched by individuals at a university or lab which counter the research on restorative justice?

If not then either it doesn’t exist and we’re operating on anecdata or it does exist and the research system is proceeding exactly as intended. You are also comparing the outcomes of policy to the work of scientists and philosophers without analyzing the specifics of imperfect policy meeting an imperfect world.

Research and knowledge work in general is often wrong. That’s not the point. For decades large parts of the genome were believed to be garbage. That wasn’t amended by the government it was amended by researchers following the scientific process. The politicization of the process doesn’t speed it up, it simply introduces an outside malignant influence to an otherwise slow but steady process of inquiry.

Levitz•36m ago
A top-down exertion of ideological power like this is terrible, it can't be the case that universities are bullied into toeing the line of whoever is in power at the moment, that much should be evident.

But surely it also can't be the case that colleges demand what are basically declarations of political allegiance in the form of DEI statements, institutional trust is nosediving and ideological capture is to blame in large part. I hope this push from the administration fails, but I also hope something changes because otherwise the result is going to be worse than if universities actually submitted to these demands.

patagurbon•35m ago
I am not in favor of mandated DEI statements outside of basic respect for students and colleagues, I’m not sure why that’s relevant or why you responded to me about it.

Most universities have moved away from those.

quotemstr•32m ago
> Most universities have moved away from those.

Whatever the mechanism, they remain echo chambers and continue to present, as the only truth, systems of thought that diverge from objective reality and that poison the public discourse.

patagurbon•13m ago
> whatever the mechanism

Is straining to carry the rest of this sentence. I responded to an assertion that a policy by certain limited universities was attempted and deemed unfit by the natural process was still active. This is how institutions grow and evolve.

> echo chambers

Publish your papers, rebut the research. This is actively happening every day in every field of science. It is happening in everything from gender studies to particle physics.

> poison the public discourse

What on Earth are you talking about. What public discourse are you frequenting which is driven primarily by this boogeyman of the university system rather than the attention driven rat race of national fear politics.

nickpsecurity•9m ago
You can't on the topics they're talking about. People trying don't get hired, don't get funded, or get canceled. There's certain, Progressive views all of them have to agree with and never contradict even with scientific evidence.
hypeatei•2m ago
> You can't on the topics they're talking about

What topics? I have a hard time taking comments like this seriously as it reads like you have a persecution complex while your guy just got elected and they control all three branches of government. Surely if they actually cared about solving this existential problem, they'd gather input from everyone and write legislation for it? No?

Levitz•29m ago
>I’m not sure why that’s relevant or why you responded to me about it.

Because while I agree that

>The pursuit of truth is difficult and has its pitfalls but it naturally leads to the dominance of certain viewpoints

I'm certain that demanding essays from which you could perfectly predict voting patterns is not the mark of viewpoints that prioritize the pursuit of truth.

bawolff•35m ago
I'm opossed to what trump is doing, its abhorent.

But i still think its possible for academics to get into echo chambers. They are human just like the rest of us. Especially in fields not easily subject to direct experimental verification. I think its important not to put researchers on a pedestal as if they are above folly. (After all, the saying "science advanced one funeral at a time" didn't come from nowhere)

patagurbon•21m ago
Sure, that’s why I said the process is an approximation of truth and only then in the limit.

This is known in the scientific, philosophical, and research communities. It is a reality that is only solved by the slow inexorable application of the scientific process and exchange of ideas, not by outside political influence.

We should never put researchers on pedestals, but the process of science is the most prized accomplishment of humanity. It is a farcical weaponization of the slow and often backtracking nature of science by the anti-intellectuals of the world which we are witnessing now. Not a real crisis

nickpsecurity•11m ago
They are already at the point you're worried about. They force everyone to have Progressive, often atheist, views despite that being non-inclusive of most of humanity. Progressives also did that in mass media and government where they could.

It's good that this is being reversed. It turns out that many who are celebrating it are liberals and minority members. The Progressive media doesn't cover much of them but we see them elsewhere. Their ratings are plummeting which shows their viewers are tired of what they're doing.

All of these trends started with Trump who seems to be the only person willing or capable of handling it. A wicked man to be sure but very helpful in breaking Progressive's control of institutions. Also, showing their hypocrisy as they complain about people doing to them what they've been doing for decades now. If it's so bad, they should likewise cease all ideological activities in all institutions. (They won't.)

nine_k•7m ago
The push to mandate an "ideological balance" is indeed a wrong move; allowing the state to determine such matters always leads to rot, examples abound.

It sadly does not mean that universities are laser-focused on seeking truth, and are free from ideological biases, often very obvious. Regarding truth, one of the leading theories in humanities is that of Michel Foucault, which states that there cannot be any objective truth, and what is considered true is determined by power structures.

I'm glad to see though that the four universities are making a stand, and value independence above whatever "federal benefits" the administration may offer. It's sad that these are only 4 out of 9.

credit_guy•22m ago
If I'm one of these universities, the rational course of action is to say no. Because you never know when this administration will change its mind, or try to change the terms of the deal and impose new conditions. I think the only reason for some universities to delay coming with an answer is that they have to first have a conversation with their biggest donors, and make sure they don't upset them.
0xbadcafebee•10m ago
[delayed]