Aren't there already materials (made for people with autism) that catalog these scripts and make them explicit?
Edit: e.g. https://suelarkey.com.au/promoting-social-understanding-soci...
Also, you can think of it as the subject (or subjects) programming the modeling agent: if the modeled mind is able to recognize it's being modeled, it's reasonable to consider the possibility that it can influence how those inferred scripts are created just by shaping its own behavior.
It can't be like an EEG, right? "Please be quiet and predictable while I model you, sir".
Of course, what humans think of predictability might not hold water. One could think he's behaving in a random way but in reality following well-known patterns (unknown to him).
It's an interesting problem. Absolutely terrifying stuff.
I really really want this other part of my unconscious behavior modeled well. Would be very useful.
By examining the common attacks on distracted people you can build a simple rule set that accounts for a large part of unconscious behavior. The attack I love to hate is the “subscribe now” popup. It inserts into your OODA loop at exactly the moment when your mind is engaged with important or interesting concepts. It is designed to compromise your decision making. I would use that as the foundation of my model because it sets out not only the behavior but the conditions under which the behavior is active.
Another set of rules can be inferred from ways phishing tricks people. (Activating urgency, fear, irritation, authority, avarice)
A third source of rules might be inferred from the practices of illusionists and cup and ball scams. Attention is finite, I’ve got it here so it’s not available in the important direction.
joaquincabezas•3h ago
ryandv•3h ago
Since everybody knows Python and is expressing the exact same ideas in the exact same way, thinking the exact same things as everyone else, these are not in fact echo chambers and cargo cult practices, they are actually enduring mathematical truths! Look, the LLM even comes to the same conclusions!
qsort•3h ago
If you want to get a bit meaner, you could profitably replace some people with the empty python script.
bgwalter•3h ago
"People who think they can be replaced by AI will be replaced."
In other words, the cheerleaders are so dumb that they probably could be replaced.
PaulHoule•2h ago
https://www.amazon.com/Remember-Me-to-God/dp/B000LQ2SHG
talks about how people in low social positions (say a Bank Teller) have no opportunities to distinguish themself but have opportunities to make mistakes that they'll be held accountable for. Whereas if you are in a high social position you get to grade your own paper, get credit for your successes, and "fail up" when you screw up.
Given that neural networks get it wrong some of the kind they might be better to fill the high status positions (make up crazy stuff to say for Satya Nadella and Eric Schmidt for instance)
emp17344•2h ago
keybored•2h ago
- They could be replaced by a 12-line Python script
Predictably HN-misanthropic is more like it.
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palmotea•1h ago
The kicker is it's often not the guy you think it is.
shagie•2h ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20081204045017/http://www.thinkg...
palmotea•1h ago
Whoever bought that shirt could probably use some social skills coaching. It's not a good idea to wear a shirt that indiscriminately broadcasts contempt in all directions. I get the purchasers probably confused it for humor, but there's an important difference between humor that works on a viewer TV show and and humor embedded in the interaction of you with another real person.
I had this though recently at Walmart, after seeing the third such shirt (a visual pun meaning "fuck you"). Geeks often have the same attitude problems.
saagarjha•1h ago
palmotea•1h ago
Ideally, but that still doesn't really solve the problem. It's not really practical to counter an indiscriminate broadcast of contempt with point to point interactions. People who don't know you or don't know you well will always see your shirt, if you wear it out.
You want to do the opposite: indiscriminately broadcast a kind personality, then deploy the sarcasm in point to point contexts "that never [leave] any doubt that it is a joke".
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