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Argentina Could Be a Superpower

https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/argentina-could-be-a-superpower
23•paulpauper•2h ago

Comments

actionfromafar•2h ago
Let that be a warning to the US. There is no manifest destiny.
pinewurst•1h ago
More importantly, don’t get dragged down by the pull of fascism (Peron, military juntas, death squads).
alephnerd•1h ago
The dysfunctions that undermined Argentina's growth story are much more severe and deeper ingrained than those which we see in the US today.

Doomerism does no good, and is frankly unrealistic.

If you want to see what happens after a Trump style upheaval, it's best to look at the UK post-Brexit.

jameslk•1h ago
There is no warning in the article? It just discusses all the ways Argentina could be a superpower
alephnerd•1h ago
Argentina already is a regional power and always has been (ABC powers and whatnot), but to become a superpower or great power there are a whole host of other aspects with regards to power projection needed that Argentina lacks.

That said, being a great power or superpower or even a large regional power is orthogonal to having a high standard of living.

For example, by most standards, Brazil is a significantly larger and more powerful nation than Argentina, yet the median Brazilian remains much poorer, less educated, and less healthier than the median Argentinian based on developmental metrics.

Argentina is by most standards a fairly developed country which converged with the living standards of much of Southern Europe decades ago, but hasn't been able to take full advantage of the fairly strong human capital advantage it has due to structural issues that stem from the origin sins of the country itself. I recommend AJR's analysis on the Argentina if you want to deep dive into it.

labrador•1h ago
I'm assuming you mean Daron Acemoglu, Simon Johnson, and James Robinson

"In 2024, the Nobel Prize in Economics was awarded to Daron Acemoglu, Simon Johnson, and James Robinson for their research on why nations succeed or fail. Their work underscores a truth Argentina has long resisted: prosperous countries are built on inclusive, enduring institutions — not on ideologies, strongmen, or short-term fixes. Institutions create stable frameworks that transcend election cycles, resist political opportunism, and enable a country to engage productively with the world."

https://buenosairesherald.com/op-ed/argentinas-dream-of-the-...

briga•1h ago
One thing I think this article overlooks is that Argentina was a superpower, at least before the Panama canal was built. Before that, pretty much all shipping between the Atlantic and the Pacific had to go south around Argentina and Chile. Buenos Aires was one of the best stops along that route, and so it became one of the richest places on earth. After the Panama canal was built most of this traffic dropped off, and so did Argentina's fortunes. It's just so far away from everywhere that it has never been as geographically significant since.
more_corn•38m ago
Seems like Argentina was wealthy till the 1940s the Panama Canal was completed in 1914. I visited buenos Aries twenty years ago and it reminded me of Paris. Grand old architecture, big buildings wide avenues. Something happened in the latter half of the 20th century that caused it to decline and stagnate. I always thought it was dictatorships, civil unrest and hyperinflation, but maybe those are symptoms and not causes.
csb6•33m ago
I found this to be a pretty vapid article.

Spending multiple paragraphs talking about Argentina’s invulnerability to invasion from Africa and Australia (and Antarctica? Come on now) makes me think the author has spent too much time playing Risk. No serious reader would consider these to be possibilities. Also, the major border with Brazil really undermines the whole “largely geographically invulnerable” and “weak neighbors” theses. Writing “Argentina has natural barriers (the Atlantic, Pacific, and Andes) that protect it from invasion on several borders. It shares a difficult to defend border with Brazil.” could have replaced maybe a quarter of this article.

Some of the geographical similarities with the U.S. are interesting but seem oversimplified - farmland and rain are treated like RPG stats where every unit is fungible. Again this supports my theory that the writer is a fan of grand strategy games.

The “Political Harmony” section is also odd considering Argentina’s history - I guess it is just considering wars with other states and not internal turmoil/unrest? Why hasn’t the supposedly unifying Río de la Plata trade system prevented internal violence and instability?

Overall, I think this article could have been condensed into the opening few paragraphs of the author’s teased follow-up article that apparently actually gets into the question raised in the title. It suffers from what geopolitics writing seems to invariably suffer from: treating history like a wargame where nations are the discrete actors instead of treating it as the result of a single international commerce system that transcends borders and which most national governments have little power to contradict given their reliance on global trade.

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