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Mr Tiff

https://inventingthefuture.ghost.io/mr-tiff/
334•speckx•6h ago•39 comments

Hypothesis: Property-Based Testing for Python

https://hypothesis.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
27•lwhsiao•1h ago•5 comments

Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

https://press.asus.com/news/press-releases/asus-proart-display-8k-pa32kcx-availability/
37•Roachma•1w ago•23 comments

RISC-V takes first step toward international ISO/IEC standardization

https://riscv.org/blog/risc-v-jtc1-pas-submitter/
65•jrepinc•5d ago•18 comments

Apple’s Persona technology uses Gaussian splatting to create 3D facial scans

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/apple-talks-to-me-about-vision-pro-personas-where-is-our-virt...
90•dmarcos•5d ago•27 comments

This Day in 1988, the Morris worm infected 10% of the Internet within 24 hours

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/on-this-day-in-1988-the-morris-worm-sli...
324•canucker2016•13h ago•155 comments

Direct File won't happen in 2026, IRS tells states

https://www.nextgov.com/digital-government/2025/11/direct-file-wont-happen-2026-irs-tells-states/...
111•jhatax•2h ago•30 comments

GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2025/11/these-gm-vehicles-can-no-longer-download-apps-through-their-...
22•goopthink•2h ago•15 comments

Patching 68K Software – SimpleText

https://tinkerdifferent.com/threads/patching-68k-software-simpletext.4793/
76•mmoogle•6h ago•7 comments

Bluetui – A TUI for managing Bluetooth on Linux

https://github.com/pythops/bluetui
66•birdculture•5h ago•5 comments

Pg_lake: Postgres with Iceberg and data lake access

https://github.com/Snowflake-Labs/pg_lake
301•plaur782•12h ago•83 comments

Grayskull: A tiny computer vision library in C for embedded systems, etc.

https://github.com/zserge/grayskull
50•gurjeet•6h ago•2 comments

Vectorizing for Fun and Performance

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/vectorizing-fun-and-performance
6•rinostroh•6d ago•0 comments

Show HN: A CSS-Only Terrain Generator

https://terra.layoutit.com
298•rofko•15h ago•77 comments

By the Power of Grayscale

https://zserge.com/posts/grayskull/
141•surprisetalk•4d ago•35 comments

Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/04/dhs_wants_to_collect_biometric_data/
186•SanjayMehta•5h ago•99 comments

Whole Earth Index

https://wholeearth.info/
170•bookofjoe•1w ago•35 comments

Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/new-york-city-mayor-election-winner-2025-race-rcna238909
324•jsheard•2h ago•270 comments

Codemaps: Understand Code, Before You Vibe It

https://cognition.ai/blog/codemaps
215•janpio•11h ago•74 comments

I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

https://rameerez.com/send-this-article-to-your-friend-who-still-thinks-the-cloud-is-a-good-idea/
173•sebnun•7h ago•178 comments

Munich's surfers left stunned after famed river wave vanishes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/04/munichs-surfers-left-stunned-after-famed-river-wave...
58•c420•3h ago•14 comments

Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results

https://torrentfreak.com/google-removed-749-million-annas-archive-urls-from-its-search-results/
148•gslin•5h ago•60 comments

Singing bus horns in West Sumatra

https://www.auralarchipelago.com/auralarchipelago/kalason
58•Kaibeezy•1w ago•4 comments

Launch HN: Plexe (YC X25) – Build production-grade ML models from prompts

https://www.plexe.ai/
69•vaibhavdubey97•12h ago•28 comments

Frozen String Literals: Past, Present, Future?

https://byroot.github.io/ruby/performance/2025/10/28/string-literals.html
41•Bogdanp•1w ago•8 comments

Building blobd: single-machine object store with sub-ms reads and 15 GB/s upload

https://blog.wilsonl.in/blobd/
14•charlieirish•18h ago•3 comments

What Happened to Piracy? Copyright Enforcement Fades as AI Giants Rise

https://www.leefang.com/p/what-happened-to-piracy-copyright
33•walterbell•2h ago•5 comments

Epic vs. Google settlement: Opening up Android

https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1985920786545123613
15•azhenley•57m ago•1 comments

NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware

https://github.com/codykociemba/NoLongerEvil-Thermostat
338•mukti•11h ago•118 comments

Preventing Kubernetes from Pulling the Pause Image from the Internet

https://kyle.cascade.family/posts/preventing-kubernetes-from-pulling-the-pause-image-from-the-int...
5•meatmanek•2h ago•6 comments
Open in hackernews

Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/new-york-city-mayor-election-winner-2025-race-rcna238909
323•jsheard•2h ago

Comments

forthwall•2h ago
Exciting times in New York City, I wish them the best, it probably will become a uphill battle now to do anything without media on every single thing out the wazooo
jojobas•21m ago
It will certainly be a lesson in economics, with hopefully some lasting effect. A decade later some will call it vaccination.
tmvphil•2h ago
I'm optimistic that he will actually be a positive force in reforming how the city operates. I think he is pragmatic in that he understands that efficiency in government administration is something that progressives have insufficiently prioritized. His policies are more populist than I'd prefer, but I think not the crazy socialist fever dream that Rs portray it as. The scariest thing for me is the prospect of active sabotage from the federal level, although I don't know how much they have held back.
voidhorse•1h ago
The gov't may try to fuck with NYC using ICE or whatever, but honestly I think the fears about federal funding are overblown.

NYC generates like 2+ trillion GDP all on its own. It is the largest metropolitan economy in the world let alone the United States. I don't know how much NYC actually depends on federal money, but if there's any city that has a chance to figure out how to make it through a government funding squeeze, it's NYC.

Honestly I think the only recourse the fed has to put pressure on NYC is the actual gestapo shit they've already been pulling in Chicago.

octaane•1h ago
NYC will riot french style if ICE moves in en-masse
wakawaka28•4m ago
NYC will rot if it continues down this path.
drannex•33m ago
> think not the crazy socialist fever dream that Rs portray

That's because he's a democratic socialist, not a communist like they want people to think. If people really looked into the policies of the DSA they would support it. There is a reason Einstein, Keller, and more were adamant supporters.

wakawaka28•5m ago
I watched clips from a DSA convention where they literally kept addressing each other as "comrade" lol. They are in fact communists. The distinctions between socialism and communism are rather academic and irrelevant in the long run. Communism is just the terminal form of socialist dysfunction.
sfpotter•1h ago
Nice to see someone young, charismatic, and highly energized breathing life into the decrepit democratic party. Hopefully he can accomplish a ton and repudiate the DNC.
android521•22m ago
or turn it into a city like Kabul?
nine_zeros•1h ago
While I don't 100% agree with his policies, I cannot be more excited for someone completely opposite of the corrupt establishment Republicans and Democrats.

I was sold when he was willing to back down on some of his own views publicly, admitting publicly that he was wrong on some things. That kind of admission and honesty is so refreshing.

Complete opposite of Trump, MAGA, and constant lies. Kudos NYC! Time for a new era.

ks2048•1h ago
> I was sold when he was willing to back down ...

Also, he deserves credit for not backing down. A major push calling you a pro-9/11 jihadist? Release an ad speaking Arabic two days before the election.

add-sub-mul-div•23m ago
There's never been a dumber time in history to claim that Republicans and Democrats are comparable.
michaelbarton•1h ago
I hope this win signals (to both parties) that voters are receptive and will get engaged when a clear message is presented about cost of living and quality of life issues. Some of which are taken for granted in most other western countries.

I’m no political wonk, and I’m curious what others with more insight might say about his ability to fund and implement his polices.

I’m reminided of Obama and his hopeful message but he was mostly stymied on policy goals. Specifically Obamacare as an example ended up being watered down

NewJazz•1h ago
Sometimes I think about what we could have had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

js2•1h ago
And 15 years before that was Hillarycare (1993):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_19...

(Fuck you Bill Kristol.)

There's a long, sad, littered history of attempts at universal care in the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_health_care_reform_...

edbaskerville•44m ago
Bill Kristol has come a long way! He would vote for Mamdani...over Cuomo and Sliwa anyway.

https://www.cmcforum.com/post/bill-kristol-says-he-would-vot...

You can hear him discussing it here:

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bill-kristol-fake-news-on-60-mi...

I'm also reminded of the time Jon Stewart got Bill Kristol to admit that a government-run health care system (the VA) was good:

https://youtu.be/rRSZiWwiBuE

monocasa•2m ago
Interestingly, the ACA can trace its roots to the Republican counter proposal to Hillarycare written by the Heritage Foundation of recent Project 2025 fame.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Equity_and_Access_Refor...

bdangubic•1h ago
Obamacare being what it was is 1,000,000% Obama’s failure - he’ll tell you this same thing over coffee too. Just outmost disaster through and through how it was implemented.

Zohran can easily fund which is why every single GOP Senator and Congresman went publicly against him. Can’t have people get any crazy ideas that they could actually have nice things. WTF does Congresman from a some shithole county in Alabama give a fuck about who Mayor of NYC is? but GOP is a well-oiled machine so it was all-hands-on-deck to prevent these ideas from infecting the nation…

even though this seems like a victory, starting in about 10 minutes the entire GOP message for 2026 is going to be “Zohran is Democratic Party now” and it just might work

cryzinger•1h ago
Zohran is the Democratic party now? Thank god, it's about time! :P
bdangubic•41m ago
works in NYC but in swing states “zohran is a commie” will hum along nicely enough…
tayo42•12m ago
Red and swing states all voted overwhelmingly towards democrats tn though
doubletwoyou•1h ago
got any tips on what to look for on how obama bumbled obamacare? not too familiar on the subject myself
cdf•1h ago
Despite his public persona, I read recently Obama is actually quite aloof and didnt have the patience to charm the politicians in person.
Spooky23•1h ago
Obama took a mea culpa on parts of implementation, namely the federal marketplace website (they weren’t expected as many states to opt out of the marketplace) and the “keep your plan” narrative.

It was a compromise law that was in alignment with Bush era mainstream conservatives. The fatal flaw of Obama and Biden is they underestimated the power of the nutcase wing of the Republican Party. (Along with the institutional GOP folks)

bdangubic•42m ago
that isn’t the fatal flaw. the fatal flaw is campaigning and staking your entire political career on something and the delivering something sooooo subpar.

the sad thing is, history will remember him as first black President and that’s really about it. and most of us cried watching that speech from lincoln park.

our current president is causing most of us to cry daily but will be remembered as one of the most influential presidents in the history of this country… sad, very sad, but all true

nialv7•1h ago
I kinda feel Obama is more of a Trojan horse. It was not he tried and failed to get what he campaigned for implemented, it was more like he did a U turn after he got elected. e.g. he called for universal health care but once he was elected he started saying it was "too radical".

I hope the same doesn't happen with Zohran. If he was going to fail after all, I wish that will at least be after he had fought as hard as he can.

JumpCrisscross•1h ago
> he called for universal health care but once he was elected he started saying it was "too radical"

ACA was the most radical package that could have passed, and it still cost Democrats the Congress.

This line of argument reminds of the folks who complained about Sinema and Manchin. You know what we’d have with a few more Sinemas and Manchins in the party right now? A majority.

The bill that passes is better than the ideal that doesn’t.

parineum•48m ago
> The bill that passes is better than the ideal that doesn’t.

For your resume, sure.

Sometimes reform only works when you fully commit and if half the country isn't on board, it's not better to pass some mutilated and watered down version.

JumpCrisscross•47m ago
> For your resume, sure

No, for everyone. Some voters like politicians who pass zero legislation while holding firm to their values. Occasionally they get rewarded. Most often, they’re branded–correctly–ineffective. (And, I’d argue, unfit to lead. If you’re using millions of Americans as human shields to pass an ideologically-pure package, that’s immoral and belongs with Twitter celebrities, not leaders.)

threatofrain•45m ago
No, losing ACA matters. It's a good program that's helping people afford or qualify for life insurance. I was able to get insurance because of it.
beedeebeedee•20m ago
Yes, but it does not provide health care, it provides a subsidy to the health insurance companies (I.e., throwing even more money at lucrative companies that profit by denying coverage). It is sad that it is the best our government can do for us.
squeaky-clean•41m ago
This attitude is why Trump is president. Yeah we have a terrible leader, but we could have had a mediocre leader and I guess that is somehow worse in people's minds.
dralley•34m ago
Manchin and Sinema shouldn't be mentioned together in the same sentence.

Manchin was genuinely the best Democrats could hope for from West Virginia. Sinema was absolutely not the best Democrats could hope for from Arizona. Manchin was also, while not perfect, more honest in much of his opposition than Sinema was, and sometimes he was actually right.

duped•19m ago
Manchin was a stooge who voted how he was paid. He doesn't get a pass for not being as clear a traitor as Sinema.
jychang•14m ago
He voted how his electorate would have wanted him to vote. He probably also hoodwinked some rich people to pay him some bucks while he was at it.

He's about as "shades of gray" as a politician gets.

JumpCrisscross•7m ago
> Manchun was genuinely the best Democrats could hope for from West Virginia. Sinema was absolutely not the best Democrats could hope for from Arizona

Sure. My point is both are preferable to a MAGA enabler. If you lose perspective and start aiming for perfection at the expense of the good enough, you lose power.

jgoodhcg•22m ago
No. I think an honest attempt at doing something "radical" economically for the working class can cross the divides we have.
monocasa•5m ago
The ACA was essentially the Republican plan for healthcare reform. They just went scorched earth on it because they were pissy that he got the credit for their plan. That's also why they haven't been able to come up with a coherent replacement.

Obama had a plan early on to be inspired by Lincoln's cabinet of rivals and to try to unite the parties. Because of that he didn't push nearly as hard on the right wing of his party early on like Lieberman, who were the holdouts who pushed for the lack of a public option to have true universal healthcare.

marricks•5m ago
> ACA was the most radical package that could have passed, and it still cost Democrats the Congress.

People aren’t excited by half measures that let health insurance company generates tons of money and raise premiums.

The person who gets free healthcare cuts costs by destroying health insurance middle man will be massively popular and would not lose the senate.

Perhaps Obama never could have but if he articulated a clear message and called out enemies of a good plan he would have gotten the public on his side.

Tiktaalik•47m ago
Run from the Left, govern from the Right. A pretty classic political electoral strategy of centrist liberals.
potamic•22m ago
Why would someone do that? Especially for presidency which is the final stage of their career? They're not beholden to or reliant on anyone no more so shouldn't have to be swayed by any adverse interests.
esseph•7m ago
Reelection
lapcat•3m ago
Look at Obama's net worth before and after he was President.

Look at Bill Clinton's net worth before and after he was President.

Slow_Hand•28m ago
The Affordable Care Act wasn't a complete solution - and I don't get the feeling universal health care was necessarily achievable - but it is the reason that I have health care and mental health services today. So I consider it to be a meaningful - if incremental - improvement. I imagine there are quite a few people aside from myself who are happy to have it.
adrr•24m ago
There was a government option in the original ACA. Dems couldn’t get the votes to overcome the filibuster in the senate to pass it. It had nothing to do Obama u turning. It was an amazing feat to get it passed in congress and get 60 votes in the senate.
vjvjvjvjghv•19m ago
Obama was pretty timid. Especially at the beginning of his presidency he assumed that his fellow democrats like Lieberman and Baucus were rational and wanted the best for the country and not just being pawns for the insurance industry. I bet if he had pounded the table, he would have way more success. Heck, LBJ made senators cry to get things done.
dboreham•21m ago
Proper Obamacare wasn't implemented because healthcare industry interests held up legislation until the midterms at which point the Republicans took over congress.
treetalker•57m ago
It's propitiously on the same day as the announcement that WMD liar, war criminal, torture advocate, and domestic-surveillance mastermind Dick Cheney died.
762236•35m ago
His policy proposals have been repeatedly disproven throughout recent history. Thank you for your attention in this matter.
vvpan•29m ago
What has been dis-proven?
Aunche•18m ago
Rent freezes are such a bad idea that Mamdani himself implicitly admits as such by insisting they will be temporary with no justification as to why.
Incipient•1h ago
As someone not in the US that doesn't pay a whole heap of attention, is it just me or did he run mostly uncontested? Running against a republican and a disgraced politician?

No clue what mamdani is like, but it seems like NYC had little to no choice...which is a bit disappointing.

ModernMech•1h ago
I mean, if you call "running uncontested" going up against the current mayor, former governor, the editorial board of the NYT and WAPO, billionaires Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, the Speaker of the House, the Senate and House leadership of the Democratic party, not to mention the entire rightwing media apparatus, and the President of the United States himself, yeah he ran uncontested.
mjmsmith•1h ago
Ackman, Bloomberg, ...
jasonpbecker•1h ago
It's unusual that Cuomo ran as an independent trying to "spoil"-- but NYC has such a large number of Democrats (like many US cities) that the more competitive and important election is typically the primary election (which determines who is running for each party). NYC has had a history of sometimes going other directions (as Cuomo's relatively high vote shows; having elected Michael Bloomberg many times, for example).

Mamdani won the primary for the democrats over Cuomo, but Cuomo decided to try and do an independent run to further challenge him.

treetalker•1h ago
If there's one thing the USA needs less of, it's political dynasties.
voidhorse•1h ago
To a reasonable person, yes, this should have been the case, but politics in America is far from reasonable.

The entire establishment marshaled what forces it could to stop mamdani's momentum. Couple this with the fact that there are (unfortunately) many people out there who would rather elect accused sex offenders than risk the chance that somebody marginally aligned with a word and ideology they don't actually understand (socialism) would be elected, or more likely, and worse, people are just racist and/or islamophobic and would sooner elect a man who would grope their daughter than a man who, god forbid, has a different religion than them.

culi•1h ago
This is not the case. His main opponent was Cuomo who was the Democrat "establishment" candidate. Zohran narrowly defeated Cuomo in the primary. Typically that's it but Cuomo took the unconventional strategy of running independently in the general with the backing of establishment Democrats.

Typically, the Republican candidate would have no chance in a city like NYC. This was the case here as well, but Cuomo calculated that with the backing of establishment Democrats AND the backing of Republicans/conservatives, he'd be able to defeat Mamdani. The Republican candidate did not agree to drop out, however. In the end it didn't matter though because Zohran Mamdani won by a larger margin than Cuomo and the Republican combined

In a typical election, the main election is the primary (which happened back in June). The Democrat nominee is pretty much guaranteed to win so the general is almost a formality. This general election was actually more contested than is typical

tl;dr: his main opponent was establishment democrats

davidcbc•54m ago
> Zohran narrowly defeated Cuomo in the primary.

13% is not narrow

smbullet•1h ago
Unfortunately that's kind of the reality for NYC. Since Bloomberg left it's been a one party city and ranked choice voting is implemented in the primary but not the general election. That means Democrats can feel comfortable voting for the most radical candidate in the primary without fear they might flop in the general election. Until we get ranked choice in the general election moderates and non-democrats don't really have a voice. This is especially true if multiple candidates run against the democratic nominee like in this election.
olalonde•1h ago
It's funny how in the US, even mayors get tagged as "conservative" or "democratic socialist." I always figured their job was just to keep the city services running.
wodenokoto•1h ago
Aren’t mayors in all countries politicians? In Denmark all mayors are identified with their party association when talked about in the news.
nofriend•1h ago
in may places eg canada they don't have an explicit party affiliation. obviously they still have a political slant.
Maxatar•1h ago
Reviewing various western democracies it looks like most mayoral candidates run affiliated with a political party. The exception is Canada where mayoral candidates run an independent campaign.
jancsika•54m ago
Most of the large city mayoral races in the U.S. are partisan. But I'm not sure how it breaks down by state in the U.S. for small towns.
treetalker•1h ago
Well, define politician.

Some cities have non-partisan mayoral elections. For example, Miami does this under Home Rule charter.

Still, it's often clear who's who. For example, Emilio González prominently displayed a POTUS lapel pin during a debate and bragged about being able to interface with Trump and DeSantis.

olalonde•1h ago
Maybe it's the exception rather than the norm, but in Canada, municipal, provincial, and federal parties are generally separate. Montreal, for example, is currently led by Projet Montréal, which has no formal ties to any provincial party. Likewise, the current provincial party, the CAQ, has no formal affiliation with any federal party.
gpm•1h ago
Canada here (Ontario really, probably varies by province) - our mayors and city councilors are politicians but they're explicitly forbidden from running as part of a party. Which I honestly think works so well it should be extended to all levels of politics.
sequoia•1h ago
In Canada's largest city the mayor is firmly and strongly associated with the NDP. "Chow served as the New Democratic Party member of Parliament for Trinity—Spadina from 2006 to 2014."
gpm•1h ago
And yet that was not the central in her run for mayor at all (I live in that city). She campaigned on policy, not on party branding, like every other candidate did.
ianbutler•1h ago
That mayor runs a city that has the GDP of multiple nations. The scale is different even if the title is the same.
layman51•1h ago
I believe that in California, the political party that mayoral candidates belong to cannot be printed on the ballot next to their names.
burnt-resistor•1h ago
LaGuardia was a democratic socialist but had to run as a Republican because of Tammany Hall's undemocratic stranglehold on the Democratic party then. NYC has a history of a lot of really shitty, corrupt mayors and political machinery. Let's hope ZM charts a new course.
jancsika•1h ago
There are lots of small towns in the U.S. where mayors and board members' campaigns are not partisan. That is, they don't run as members of a political party. Just candidates who campaign to "keep the city services running." There are no political parties listed on the ballot for these candidates.
jojobas•18m ago
You don't make yourself a name by properly managing garbage trucks and street sweeping. It's not just the US either, Australian local councils went headlong into culture wars long ago.
LarsDu88•1h ago
I found out his mom directed the movies "Monsoon Wedding" and "Mississipi Masala" with Denzel Washington.

Allegedly she was tapped to direct "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", but her then 14 year old son talked her out of it to do "The Namesake" instead

null3cksor•1h ago
TIL he is Mira Nair's son!. The namesake has a special place in my heart.
lateforwork•1h ago
She is known for movies like Monsoon Wedding... but also Kama Sutra.
vvpan•23m ago
Zohran's father is a famous post-colonial scholar. A college professor in my family has had him as part of curriculum for years.
bentt•1h ago
I'm happy he won. It's symbolic of voter dissatisfaction. Someone's got to take billionaires on and it might as well be a 34 year old mayor of NYC. Why not?

It's honestly staggering how much older Trump is than this guy. 45 years!

nichos•24m ago
What's the issue with billionaires?
howlingfantods•1m ago
They shouldn’t exist
nostrebored•23m ago
Agreed. Really hoping that a conservative candidate with a pulse can run in a city with a campaign that targets younger voters. I think that a socially aware fiscally conservative YIMBY would have a real chance in a lot of cities.

The fact that Zohran won should be a wake up call to both parties, but I won’t hold my breath.

I’m just glad that it seems like people actually care, even if I think it will end up poorly. An overall win.

jojobas•15m ago
You're happy to find out dissatisfied people outnumber satisfied ones? Do you think his election is likely to make more people satisfied?
koolba•1h ago
I’m a big believer that the people elect the government they deserve. Let’s see how this plays out.
sfpotter•47m ago
Honest, hardworking people deserve honest, hardworking government.
testfoobar•1h ago
Mamdani's and by extension, his voters', ignorance about the effects of price controls in markets will be an interesting real-time political experiment. When the inevitable unintended outcomes become to emerge who will be blamed?

https://rentguidelinesboard.cityofnewyork.us/resources/apart...

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform

Quoting Paul Krugman (Nobel prize winner and liberal columnist at the NYT).

"The analysis of rent control is among the best-understood issues in all of economics, and -- among economists, anyway -- one of the least controversial. In 1992 a poll of the American Economic Association found 93 percent of its members agreeing that ''a ceiling on rents reduces the quality and quantity of housing.'' Almost every freshman-level textbook contains a case study on rent control, using its known adverse side effects to illustrate the principles of supply and demand. Sky-high rents on uncontrolled apartments, because desperate renters have nowhere to go -- and the absence of new apartment construction, despite those high rents, because landlords fear that controls will be extended? Predictable. Bitter relations between tenants and landlords, with an arms race between ever-more ingenious strategies to force tenants out -- what yesterday's article oddly described as ''free-market horror stories'' -- and constantly proliferating regulations designed to block those strategies? Predictable."

https://archive.ph/k4h7J#selection-475.0-475.1011

asdaqopqkq•1h ago
How does he explain Tokyo then ?
donohoe•1h ago
Or any of these:

- Vienna, Austria: About 60% of residents live in city-subsidized or cooperatively owned housing

- Berlin, Germany: Rent control has been mixed, varies by neighborhood, but seen as working

- Singapore: Not rent control in the classic sense, but government-built housing

- Montreal, Canada: Rent control applies mainly to existing tenant

Not all perfect. There are others. It can work.

tsvetkov•47m ago
Have you lived in one of those rent controlled “paradises”? In Europe, yes, there are sizeable populations living in subsidized housing, and often there are restrictions on rent increases, but new tenants pay way higher prices and have to compete for every available unit with dozens of other potential tenants. New tenants frantically overbidding each other, while old tenants pay pennies compared to today’s market prices, mmm, what a life.

“it can work” in some way of course. People are surprisingly adaptable to living in semi-dysfunctional environments. But it reality the only thing that truly works is building a lot of housing.

dmbche•37m ago
Not something I've seen in montreal
jandrewrogers•33m ago
The housing situation in Vienna has benefited significantly from massive population decline. As much as the population has grown in recent years, it is only now approaching the population it had a century ago.

Some genuinely lovely so-called “rust-belt” cities in the US have enjoyed a cheap housing renaissance on the back of historical population decline that is driving population increase now.

Dracophoenix•52m ago
Lax zoning regulations, relatively cheap labor, low cost of materials, and depreciating home values incentivize building new real estate. That is what separates Tokyo from New York City.
nostrebored•37m ago
The city with declining population growth, aggressive rezoning to create supply, that still has 30 yr high rents in 2025?
budududuroiu•1h ago
Do those case studies include the case for expropriating landlords that don’t keep their buildings to code?

Massive building sprees don’t bring prices down, they bring favelisation.

If the effect of this policies is that housing prices tumble, and there’s potentially more housing stock on the market for people to buy (and no incentive for buying to let since rent freezes makes it unprofitable), this seems like a good effect

ecshafer•1h ago
Oh have we thought about just seizing property at gunpoint to solve the housing prices. The Kulaks deserve it anyways.
budududuroiu•1h ago
Keeping a building rentable is a pretty reasonable criteria for… renting.
ecshafer•1h ago
Except NYC has laws making it difficult to do. A 2019 law they passed limits the amount a unit can have its rent increased in the case of a capital improvement at a small fraction of the capital cost. Now that interest rates are higher land lords are forced to keep units vacant, since theyll lose money taking a loan to get units up to code.
JumpCrisscross•58m ago
> 2019 law they passed limits the amount a unit can have its rent increased in the case of a capital improvement at a small fraction of the capital cost

Source? This sounds like it only applies to stabilised apartments.

> Now that interest rates are higher land lords are forced to keep units vacant

Rental vacancies are similar to what they were in 2019 [1].

[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/NYRVAC

JumpCrisscross•1h ago
> If the effect of this policies is that housing prices tumble

The near-term effect will be a spike in market rates. If Mamdani delivers on new supply, rents should broadly flatten in real terms.

voidhorse•1h ago
The literal alternative, which is actually happening right now and not some textbook hypothetical is supply not keeping up anyway and landlords charging however much they want pretty much unbridled, not to mention major companies snapping up real estate and leveraging it as investment collateral rather than treating them and managing them as, you know, housing.

We need a change. We don't need to do rent freezes in a vacuum. Coupled with the right policy supports they can definitely work, and Mamdani's proposed freezes are limited in scope. He is freezing rents only for select controlled units, last I checked.

Before you go spreading the bs propaganda, consider what your fellow citizens actually need to survive and whether or not you want to be viewed as being on the side of a few billionaires or on the side of the vast population that is increasingly becoming impoverished.

ecshafer•1h ago
1. New york city has rent control on 1 million units already

2. New york city has laws making it so you can only increase rent by a small fraction of the investment for renovation taking a large amount of units off the market as its economically infeasible

3. Nyc has a very strict zoning and regulation system that is reducing housing supply

voidhorse•1h ago
Two of these things are orthogonal to freezes on rent controlled units, so I don't understand your point here.

I agree that 3. Is a problem. I'm not convinced mamadani is against reconsidering zoning and regulation to increase supply. Nothing I've heard suggest he would be.

FireBeyond•1h ago
No it doesn't. There are about 25,000 rent-controlled units, less than 1% of units in the City.

You are thinking of rent stabilization, but that's not close to the same thing.

WatchDog•25m ago
They are both price controls on rent. The eligibility criteria are different, and the terms by which rent may increase are different, but they seem pretty close to the same thing to me.
liveoneggs•53m ago
(from wikipedia)

1. rent control is a specific, technical term which represents about 24k units

2. rent stabilized representing about 1M sets limits on rent increases in exchange for tax breaks for the building

3. corruption

bdastous•1h ago
> He is freezing rents only for select controlled units

45% of apartments in NYC

FireBeyond•1h ago
Rent-controlled units account for less than 1%. Rent-stabilized units for less than 25%.
WatchDog•11m ago
Over 50% of rented units in New York are regulated somehow. 34% “rent stabilised pre-74”, 8% “rent stabilized post-73”, 1% rent controlled, 7% public housing, 2% other
tinyhouse•1h ago
Actually demand has being going down and rents have been trending down as a result. The main reason is less immigration and international students. I recall years ago every open house I would go to ended up selling above market value for cash from someone from overseas who "invests" their money on the back of locals trying to buy a house to live in for their family. The billionaires were not the ones to blame for this.
voidhorse•1h ago
lol, going down according to who? https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/new-york...

I don't doubt that immigration has probably marginally impacted the market, that doesn't change the fact that rent in NYC is still increasing YoY and is way too expensive.

And yes, the people extracting exorbitant rent cost are in fact the ones to blame. I don't understand people who seem to occupy a fairytale land in which they feel the need to defend billionaires as though they owe some fealty to them.

throwaway3060•45m ago
Making it about "sides* is exactly why politics is as toxic as it is today.

Is it inconceivable that one could look at the candidates and, without being a billionaire, decide that Mamdani is not a candidate they want to bet their chips on?

voidhorse•13m ago
Politics is all about sides. To think it isn't is delusional.

It's uncomfortable to take sides, but that's what politics is. It's finding out what you believe is important (e.g. helping average people make ends meet, even if it require regulation, or eliminating regulation), you will end up taking sides whether you like it or not.

I think it's incredibly naive not to consider who our choices benefit. If your choices benefit people who already have massive amounts of wealth, you should acknowledge that and be aware of that and accept the consequences of that, and vice versa. Obviously in many cases it is complicated--your choices may benefit several different classes of people and undermine others. If anything the problem with politics is that many people make choices without considering what "sides" will benefit, letting ads, propaganda, and persuasion convince them instead. This leads people to actively vote against their own interests without even realizing it.

testfoobar•21m ago
The underlying cause of impoverishment where inflation of housing, healthcare, and education is outpacing income is an expansionist monetary policy. ZIRP (Zero interest policy) along with QE (quantitative easing) pushed ever increasing amounts of printed money into the system. No one is touching the root cause. Not Mamdani, not Democrats and not Republicans.

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2010/12/08/13190...

"Jon Stewart Busts Fed Chair Ben Bernanke On 'Printing Money' December 8, 201010:39 AM ET By

Frank James

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is so busted.

Comedy Central host Jon Stewart added his voice to others who caught the central banker contradicting himself over whether or not the Fed is "printing money" through its actions to bolster the economy.

On 60 Minutes this week, when asked by reporter Scott Pelley about the Fed's $600 billion purchase of Treasury bonds that is meant to lower interest rates further, the Fed chair said:

BERNANKE: Well, this fear of inflation, I think is way overstated. We've looked at it very, very carefully. We've analyzed it every which way. One myth that's out there is that what we're doing is printing money. We're not printing money. The amount of currency in circulation is not changing. The money supply is not changing in any significant way. ...

Twenty-one months earlier on the same program and to the same reporter, Bernanke said something quite different:

Asked if it's tax money the Fed is spending, Bernanke said, "It's not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed, much the same way that you have an account in a commercial bank. So, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It's much more akin to printing money than it is to borrowing."

"You've been printing money?" Pelley asked.

"Well, effectively," Bernanke said. "And we need to do that, because our economy is very weak and inflation is very low. When the economy begins to recover, that will be the time that we need to unwind those programs, raise interest rates, reduce the money supply, and make sure that we have a recovery that does not involve inflation." "

colordrops•1h ago
As if Cuomo was some economic genius. Look at all his campaign material - they were abject brain dead character smears and racism. If he was truly just trying to win by any means to supposedly save New Yorkers from economic disaster, he was a Machiavellian of the highest degree.
Spooky23•52m ago
He used Orthodox Jewish communities with top down leaders as a core machine style voting bloc. The whole community turns out and did what the head guy says, just like the old Tammany Hall. I’m sure plenty of people “moved” from their upstate town back to Brooklyn. Usually the old style conservative Catholics vote for him too. (Oddly enough as his divorce and “living in sin” was scandalous)

The issue is that the machine stuff only works when nobody is amped up. And his broader audience is both dying off and angry at the Trump nonsense. The population is shifting, and south asian, Middle Eastern and other, less traditionally powerful blocs are voting now and Zohran activated them. That’s why the dog whistles were so important - he needed to get more republicans and Archie bunker types to turn out.

It’s kind of sad, Cuomo with the right people restraining him is a force. But his enemy is himself.

dyauspitr•1h ago
30% of housing in places like Hong Kong are rent controlled. The other 70% or so are strictly not so there’s plenty of incentive for the free market.
DannyBee•1h ago
Also quoting Paul Krugman -

"“The growth of the Internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in ‘Metcalfe’s law’—which states that the number of potential connections in a network is proportional to the square of the number of participants—becomes apparent: most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet’s impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine’s.”"

So you know, take what he says with a grain of salt, as with all economists, who pretend to be rigorous when in fact they are anything but.

testfoobar•9m ago
Of course Krugman got that wrong. It is funny.

But economists don't disagree about the effects of price controls. These are easy to observe and model. These concepts are also taught to Economics undergraduates all over the world - often in their first Microeconomics class. They are not controversial.

JumpCrisscross•1h ago
> Mamdani's and by extension, his voters', ignorance about the effects of price controls

Mamdani isn’t pitching widespread price controls, but rent control over a small section of New York housing twinned with abundance-style new development.

“In a 2022 paper, the political scientists Anselm Hager, Hanno Hilbig, and Robert Vief used the introduction of a 2019 rent-control law in Berlin to study how access to rent-controlled apartments influenced local attitudes toward housing development. The fact that the new law included an arbitrary cutoff date (it applied only to buildings constructed before January 1, 2014) allowed the authors to create a natural experiment, comparing otherwise-similar tenants in otherwise-similar buildings.

Heading into the experiment, the authors hypothesized that having access to a rent-controlled apartment would keep tenants in their existing units longer and therefore make them more resistant to neighborhood change. Instead, they found the opposite: Residents who lived in rent-controlled apartments were 37 percent more likely to support new local-housing construction than those living in noncontrolled units” [1].

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/11/mamdani-...

testfoobar•59m ago
My understanding is that he is proposing a 4 year freeze on about 1 million units.

https://www.curbed.com/article/zohran-mamdani-housing-rent-f... archive: https://archive.ph/hnK4Q

"The 34-year-old democratic socialist’s pledge for a four-year pause on any increases on the city’s 1 million or so stabilized units, effectively giving a reprieve to about 2 million stabilized tenants, was at the center of his campaign"

I'm not directly familiar with Berlin. But this story about shortages is the expected outcome:

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/germany-must-build-32...

BERLIN, March 20 (Reuters) - Germany, lagging in its building goals to alleviate a housing shortage, needs to construct 320,000 new apartments each year by 2030, a study on Thursday showed.

JumpCrisscross•51m ago
> 34-year-old democratic socialist’s pledge for a four-year pause on any increases on the city’s 1 million or so stabilized units

Out of 3.7mm [1].

> not directly familiar with Berlin

Not comparable. Berlin froze rents “on more than 1.5 million” apartments in 2020 [2] out of about 2mm. 25% versus 75%.

Also, Berlin’s politicians didn’t propose a construction agenda. Mamdani has. (“New York City voters on Tuesday delivered a strong message in support of building more housing, passing three proposals that pitted City Hall against the City Council in an effort to rewrite decades-old development rules” [4].)

[1] https://www.nyc.gov/content/tenantprotection/pages/fast-fact...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/world/europe/berlin-gentr...

[3] https://www.berlin.de/en/news/8283996-5559700-housing-stock-...

[4] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/04/nyregion/nyc-ballot-measu...

testfoobar•28m ago
Increasing supply brings down prices. But a builder will not build at a loss or an imminent threat to their rental income from expansion of rent freezes.

A city with an expanding rent-freeze is not inviting new supply.

Workaccount2•26m ago
Mamdani will learn that you need to be friends with the people your voters hate to get things done.

Developers are the single most important players in lowering housing costs, but they are part of the "landlord" contingent in voters minds.

If he doesn't learn that, the city is going to be in bad shape. Impossible to get an apartment unless you want to get an illegal sublet at regular old $4500/mo prices.

hakfoo•7m ago
The market isn't going to function ideally in a place like New York.

In other cities, a significant market-based response to high rents and housing demand is to increase supply with another ring of suburbs. Is there anywhere within reasonable commute radius left to develop around NYC at scale?

Uncapping rents might trigger some refurbishment of idle or marginal space by dangling enough money in front of landlords, but you're not going to pull another 500,000 units out of your rear that way.

We can acknowledge that NYC housing is a finite and desirable resource, but we can also say that we don't want to turn it completely into an auction for the highest bidder. Rent control helps encourage diverse and vibrant communities, part of what makes the city compelling in the first place.

Braxton1980•1h ago
One of the pieces of evidence you provided is a poll about what people thought the effects were and not the actual effects.

Isn't that odd?

_coveredInBees•1h ago
The Atlantic had a good article on this and how it isn't the doom and gloom you lay out above:

https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/11/mamdani-...

As some of the replies note, it has been rather successful and popular in other cities like Berlin.

testfoobar•53m ago
Rent control is always initially popular with the people who are already in apartments. But it is longer term effects on supply and quality that are corrosive.

An alternative is Austin:

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/22/austin-texas-rents-f...

"Austin rents have fallen for nearly two years. Here’s why.

Austin rents have tumbled for 19 straight months, data from Zillow show. The typical asking rent in the capital city sat at $1,645 as of December, according to Zillow — above where rents stood prior to the pandemic but below where they peaked amid the region’s red-hot growth.

Surrounding suburbs like Round Rock, Pflugerville and Georgetown, which saw rents grow by double-digit percentages amid the region’s pandemic boom, also have seen declining rents. Rents aren’t falling as quickly as they rose during the pandemic run-up in costs, but there are few places in the Austin region where rents didn’t fall sometime in the last year.

The chief reason behind Austin’s falling rents, real estate experts and housing advocates said, is a massive apartment building boom unmatched by any other major city in Texas or in the rest of the country. Apartment builders in the Austin area kicked into overdrive during the pandemic, resulting in tens of thousands of new apartments hitting the market."

Spooky23•58m ago
Fascinating, yet rents have increased faster than inflation even as rent control has waned in NYC.

The problem with citing studies from 1992 is that you’re missing the last 25 years of war inflation hidden through various schemes of quantitative easing and capitalization. We’ve made capital so easy to get everything is fungible and inflates as everyone from families to foreign rich people looking to exfiltrate cash from their country pumps dollars into real estate.

My parents recently passed and we sold their house in Queens for a ridiculous sum - representing a 8% CAGR. Most of that increase in value has been since 2000, and that’s driven by a surplus of capital looking for a return.

testfoobar•43m ago
The underlying cause of runaway asset price inflation is ZIRP and QE. Renters experience it as rent increases outpacing wage increases - this is socially destructive. But neither Mamdani (DSA) or Democrats or Republicans are willing to touch Federal Reserve QE.

Senator Schumer (D-NY) famously said in 2012 to Ben Bernanke (Federal Reserve Chair): 'Get To Work Mr. Chairman' - encouraging him to start Quantitative Easing 3 (QE3) - a program to digitally print $40billion and eventually $85billion per month of "money" and injecting it into the financial system.

raincom•36m ago
Democrats want higher wages for workers instead of reducing the cost of living (rent, insurance, etc).
Workaccount2•17m ago
Which is a total exercise in futility.

The way you fix housing is by building new housing, and letting old housing become the affordable housing.

wakawaka28•15m ago
Generally speaking, legal requirements for elevated wages are another form of price fixing. The results of this price fixing are that fewer people will have jobs, the poorest people will be disenfranchised because it is not profitable to pay them a full salary, and the cost of everything in the city may very well be elevated due to more people willing/able to pay for the limited housing and other necessities. If you really want to help poor people, find a way to help them be more productive, and stop damaging the industries that get people the things they need.
testfoobar•6m ago
You can see this in California with its mandated $20/hr fast food minimum wage. Restaurants responded by cutting workers or cutting hours.

https://www.nrn.com/quick-service/california-lost-16-000-res...

"It has been almost one year since California implemented a $20 minimum wage for quick-service restaurant workers, and industry experts have been debating the long-term effects the wage jump would have on the industry’s job market.

As it turns out, thus far, the 33.3% wage increase for fast-food workers in California has resulted in almost 16,000 job losses — a decline of 2.8% — across the limited-service food industry from September 2023 (when AB 1228 was signed into law) until September 2024, according to the latest Bureau of Labor Statistics data. Since the law went into effect in April, California’s limited-service restaurant industry has seen an employment rate decline of 2.5%."

jojobas•22m ago
> who will be blamed?

20 bucks says Trump.

bix6•19m ago
1992 is a long time gone and economists aren’t always right. I don’t know how much worse the housing stock could get so maybe it’s time to try something different.
tayo42•5m ago
What's an alternative though. It's easy to be critical and not solve people's problems
drannex•1h ago
The DSA is finally having a moment - may they grow by the day.
ecshafer•1h ago
I hope this turns out well for New York, but I am doubtful. Rent control is such a colossally bad idea, a rent freeze is going to be a disaster. This is going to further increase the lottery nature of New York City real estate, and reduce investment. His plans are set to drive finance and businesses out of the city in his goal to give away money to everyone, which will bankrupt the city. Socialism has a bad track record for a reason, there has never been an issue of people trying to escape market economies for socialist ones. The city already has a crime problem, defunding police and making the job unbearable wont help that. Grocery stores already run on razor thin margins, even with the logistics expertise and brutal capitalism of the likes of walmart or aldis, how does the famoisly expensive and incompetent nyc government plan on running a grocery store for cheaper (itll be at a massive loss). This isnt even getting into hos antisemitism “the boot of the nypd on your neck was laced by the idf” should have disqualified him, that kind of antisemetic talk was only on /pol/ like 2 years ago.
donohoe•1h ago

  The city already has a crime problem
The city does not have a crime problem. It exists, but its down, and its lower than most comparable (and smaller cities). NYC is safe.

  Socialism has a bad track record for a reason
Only because people confuse it with "communism", otherwise it has a great track record.

  This isnt even getting into hos antisemitism
Yeah, thats why Brad Landers, the most prominent elected Jewish member of the NYC political scene endorsed him and campaigned with him?

Perhaps you don't know what you are talking about?

TimorousBestie•59m ago
Their profile says they’re from philly so yeah. . .
carnufex•38m ago
Socialism works in places with more or less homogenous populations. I always hear Norway/Sweden have universial everything. Yes they do cause taxes are sky high and the culture there is more or less the same.

NYC is not Norway.

People in Norway let babies sleep outside the supermarket when they go shopping. When you have that level of trust in a society, socialism has a fighting chance for sure.

I think the establishment messed up big time here and Mamdami snatched it up.

voidhorse•1h ago
Mamdani has said basically none of the things you claim here. These are all clearly mischaracterizations of what he's actually said aimed and convincing someone like you to think he's a bad choice. In particular Mamdani has been extremely clear that he has no plans to defund the police in any fashion. In fact, he wants to enable NYPD to get back to solving crimes rather than incidents better handled by mental health professionals (e.g. people tweaking, by themselves, all alone, on the subway platform)

How about watch some actual interviews in which Mamdani states what he wants to do rather than only get your information from third parties who clearly want to emphasize particular angles?

Braxton1980•1h ago
Crimes in the city is down in the long term and there's been a Covid spike that also happened around the country regardless of the elected officials.
tmvphil•1h ago
Zohran isn't proposing putting any new units under rent control (really rent stabilization), only temporarily halting raises to rents for existing stabilized units. This will make it harder for the city to attract new buildings to join rent stabilization in the future, but will benefit existing habitants. It won't have any effect on the ability to profitably develop market rate units at all.
silexia•28m ago
Property developer here. I have zero faith that NYC would not put rent control on new units in the future. I will invest nothing in NYC and will tell every other developer I know to avoid it like the plague.
guywithahat•25m ago
It's unfortunate because all you have to do is talk to landlords to figure out what's happening (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KbGulTc4TY). Lots of people own buildings, but they're legally prevented from renting them out without taking a loss. The result is you can't bring units back onto the market after they empty, and it becomes harder to find housing.

Austin reduced rent prices by ~20% by building more housing even as the overall city population grew. Other small cities have seen rents decrease through active immigration policing. We know how to fix housing pricing there's just no motivation too, people want expensive, exclusive neighborhoods

lisbbb•10m ago
I don't know why people reflexively vote down comments like this one since it is completely reasonable in every way. Just, I guess, leftists who can't accept viewpoints they don't agree with? Like really--read some history books, maybe read up on how bad communism was in Eastern Europe and what led to its total collapse? Let's not go down that road again! There's plenty of examples out there already. I don't even get the hatred for Israel thing particularly, either--WWII was really, really bad for Jews. They deserve a homeland of their own and all these people complaining and calling everyone Nazis need to take a long look in the mirror--the major component of Nazism was ANTISEMITISM! It is morally reprehensible and it's been a struggle since 1948 because that hatred endures.
octaane•1h ago
You guys have it all wrong. There was only one candidate for the dem party, Here's the list:

1) Cuomo. Sexpest who has been accused by many women of some pretty shitty stuff. Also a member of a multi-generational dynasty, which is not good.

2) Mayor Adams. Federally indicted by the Feds. They have a 99% conviction rate. Not because they're corrupt, but because they only go after people who have dome some really egregious, illegal shit.

3) Mamdani. Millennial candidate. No dirt. Other that some stupid stuff he said while he was young, his policies are relatively common sense and middle of the road, and are aimed at leveling the playing field.

Gee, who should I choose? [[said all of NYC today]]

JumpCrisscross•1h ago
The fact that I was seeing Sliwa favourably speaks to the candidate quality in this race.

> No dirt. Other that some stupid stuff he said while he was young

Stupid stuff he credibly disavowed.

I’m still blown away that after De Blasio he was the only one, when asked a foreign policy question, who said he’d put city priorities first.

chasil•50m ago
It is unfortunate that, after the Spanish Inquisition, Jewish refugees were welcome in Istanbul, but the current receptivity is so much colder.

This is exactly the point where the historic tolerance of the middle east is most direly needed, but common ground in so many contexts is absent.

I hope that we can put ourselves back together. We've seen the consequences this year of its lack.

JumpCrisscross•36m ago
> where the historic tolerance of the middle east is most direly needed

Sure. Broadly. But there is one correct answer a mayoral candidate could give on such an issue, and it’s the one Mamdani gave.

chasil•15m ago
This is from Eisenhower's "Cross of Iron" speech:

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies—in the final sense—a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

This world in arms is not spending money alone.

It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than thirty cities.

It is: two electric power plants, each serving a town of sixty thousand population.

It is: two fine, fully equipped hospitals.

It is: some fifty miles of concrete highway.

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat.

We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than eight thousand people.

This—I repeat—is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.

This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/states-war/humanity-hanging...

nialv7•1h ago
well 40% still voted for Cuomo.
jen729w•43m ago
That 40% would have voted for a potato if it'd been wearing a red tie.
BobaFloutist•57m ago
From a distance it looks like Cuomo is also a generational talent when it comes to being a lazy, unmotivated campaigner.
brandonagr2•56m ago
Government run grocery stores are middle of the road? What would progressive ideas look like on that spectrum?
hakfoo•22m ago
Ration books for all?
throwaway81523•19m ago
Plenty of red states have government run liquor stores. And army bases have government run grocery stores along with government run everything else. I don't see the problem here. Progressive version presumably would be free groceries for everyone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_grocery_store

dboreham•14m ago
Was going to say our state had government liquor stores until a couple of years ago. The sky remained in place.
Taek•55m ago
It's not clear to me why a multigenerational dynasty specifically is a bad thing? Presumably the kids can learn from the parents, get connected, etc.

Also, Mamdani's policies are incredibly controversial, that's why it's such big news. Lots of people predicting that Mamdani's criminal policies, economic policies, and lack of experienced staffers will lead the city to dark days.

dmbche•47m ago
You want your elected officials to "keep connections" accross generations?

You also think New York can't find someone that's at least as competent as someone in a multigenerational dynasty?

JumpCrisscross•45m ago
> not clear to me why a multigenerational dynasty specifically is a bad thing?

Aristocracies are more stable but less efficient. That creates an incentive for corruption when growth inevitably stalls. Which leads to catastrophic instability.

terminalshort•7m ago
There is minimal incentive for corruption in a hereditary aristocracy. Status is determined by birthright rather than accumulation of money. And if you are a lord and do need money, you have the power to tax it legally anyway. So what incentive is there to make or take a bribe? It won't change who your parents are.
JumpCrisscross•6m ago
> Status is determined by birthright rather than accumulation of money. And if you are a lord and do need money, you have the power to tax it legally anyway

Lords being unconcerned with—and constrained by—wealth characterises all non-market societies that I know of. In part because basic economics constrains the society as a whole, even if they’re ignorant of its principles.

Spivak•45m ago
I really don't get the doom and gloom on this, NYC now has a mayor that might inadvertently fuck over the city trying to do right by working class folks instead of a mayor who does it as a matter of course. Forget policy disagreements, just the fact that we have a successful politician any side of the isle that is not currently gargling the balls of rich people and actually has some principles is so refreshing.

You are demand better of your government than "the blatant corruption you've learned to live with."

lisbbb•25m ago
I'm against any and all political dynasties. They fly in the face of what representative government should be about. We have many people qualified to become political leaders but they never get the chance due to how the system operates.

I'm not sure NYC knows what it is getting into with this guy, but yeah, the alternatives were lousy. Sliwa? The whole Guardian Angels thing was one hell of a marketing job, I'll say that. Does anyone really believe a bunch of former gang thugs with some martial arts training accomplished very much?

The Cuomo family is corrupt to the core. Terrible for NY State.

Good luck, NYC. You're gonna need it!

aidenn0•48m ago
...Said less than 51% of voters
JumpCrisscross•46m ago
We can call winners this early. We can’t yet call margins.
aidenn0•43m ago
Good point; still mathematically less than 60% if you trust AP's estimated remaining vote count.
parineum•43m ago
> his policies are relatively common sense and middle of the road, and are aimed at leveling the playing field.

That's not true at all. He is not even "middle of the road" in the Democratic party.

GenerWork•42m ago
>his policies are relatively common sense and middle of the road.

Rent control isn't middle of the road, it's 100% socialist. Same thing with city run grocery stores. He also wants to defund the police while replacing them with community outreach people, as well as raising the minimum wage to $30 in 5 years which is absolutely wild. None of this is middle of the road in any way, shape, or form.

noobermin•31m ago
He has moderated on the police funding issue, and the rent freeze is for already rent controlled apartments.
GenerWork•22m ago
>He has moderated on the police funding issue

So he already backtracked on a core election promise even before he got elected? Doesn’t bode well for his supporters expectations going forward.

nobody9999•4m ago
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bix6•30m ago
$30 min wage sounds doable? CA took fast food min wage up to $20 and it’s been fine.
ryandrake•26m ago
When your road is all the way to the right, then yea, none of it is middle of the road.
GenerWork•21m ago
Please explain how city run grocery stores are middle of the road politics. Perhaps they’re middle of the road when your road is all the way to the left.
dboreham•15m ago
Cities run all sorts of things. What's the big difference between garbage trucks and sewers and a grocery store?
ryandrake•10m ago
Also, several states have state-run beer and/or liquor stores. It's not some wild unheard of experiment. We've gotten so used to the acceptable political spectrum spanning from "far right" to "extreme right" that we forget what left even means.

I'm almost 50 and the last president we ever saw that was even remotely towards the left was in office when I was born.

dboreham•17m ago
The lowest I've seen for low end jobs recently in Montana is $25/hr so $30 in NYC seems entirely reasonable.
prpl•13m ago
The minimum wage should easily be 11-13 by any inflation metric you use for the last 40 years, and doubling that for a high cost of living place is reasonable.

Lots of states have state-run liquor stores, even super conservative ones.

It’s a smaller delta than you think.

dralley•29m ago
> Mamdani. Millennial candidate. No dirt. Other that some stupid stuff he said while he was young, his policies are relatively common sense and middle of the road, and are aimed at leveling the playing field.

Look, Mamdani ran a good campaign, and if I was an NYC voter (I am not) I'd probably vote for him out of the options provided.

However, this just is not true. Many of his policies are neither "common sense" nor "middle of the road". Especially not on education and dealing with the homeless and public transit. And lots of his dumb comments were from like 2 years ago, not 12 - he was not "young" when he said them.

peanuty1•16m ago
What "dumb comments" are you referring to? His comments to "globalize" the peaceful resistance against apartheid in the West Bank?
peanuty1•15m ago
What "stupid stuff he said" are you referring to? His comments to "globalize" the peaceful resistance against apartheid in the West Bank?
nobody9999•11m ago
Exactly. and don't forget the Republican candidate: a thug, a clown and a reactionary. Even with all that, Sliwa was a better candidate than Cuomo or Adams.

Mamdani was the best candidate by far in the race. Will he make a good mayor? I have no idea.

But he certainly won't be worse than "handsy" Andy, "bribe me" Eric or "let's beat the darkie on the subway" Curtis.

And folks who don't live in NYC, you didn't get a vote.

carnufex•1h ago
Silwa pretty much screwed coumo, would of been a tight race if he dropped. Curious to see what happens to NYC if some of the socialist ideas actually get implemented.

I think AOC will likely challenge Schumer for his seat now that mandami won.

btheunissen•1h ago
More like Cuomo screwed Sliwa, if Cuomo wanted to run against the Democratic candidate, he should have ran as a Republican. He already lost the primary and took his sour grapes to the general.
carnufex•47m ago
Fair point, either way im not sure how they didnt see this happening. Both were the same more or less with Coumo being more moderate.
PLenz•41m ago
With 90% reporting Mamdami's lead is larger then Sliwa + Cuomo. Mandami won, not Cuomo and Sliwa lost.
carnufex•33m ago
Yeah, I looked when they called and it was very close. More stating, it was inevitable with those 3.
TheAceOfHearts•1h ago
I'm noticing that this election result has made a lot of people I know really hopeful. It's apparent that many people are fed up with the status quo so they're pushing towards more experimental candidates.

If anyone here is well-read on his policies and they have specific opinions I'd love to hear what you think.

Do you think Zohran will be successful with his agenda or will he get blocked by pushback from other political forces? I read some commentary that a few of his policy ideas are unfeasible without support from Albany, and I'm not sure how to evaluate that relationship.

Many online figures have become heavily invested on this mayoral election despite living hundreds or thousands of miles away, and I think that speaks to a real hunger for greater political experimentation.

As an aside, how do you evaluate the lessons that you learn or derive from what others are doing? Generalization sure is a tricky thing.

julianozen•58m ago
Hi

I don’t think I like several of his ideas or think he will get most of them passed. In fact I think a few like “freezing the rent” are actively bad

But I’m happy to finally have a politician who lives in and loves New York and is earnestly trying to my the city better. If he tries and fails, it will be better than our other politicians that have stopped trying

nostrebored•33m ago
Strong agree. I think his policies are absurd but hope that more invested young people who aren’t career politicians can start trying a platform that isn’t party line and resonates with residents.
voidhorse•53m ago
The biggest takeaway to me is how ridiculous it is that the US considers Mamdani somehow "experimental" or even radical.

His campaign revolves around three policies:

1. Universal Child Care 2. Fast and Free Busses 3. Freezing Rent for certain Rent Controlled Units

In any other context these would be policies that basically every citizen, except for a handful of people making buttloads of money off the privatization of childcare, housing, and transportation would support, yet somehow in the USA this is "radical". Somehow a candidate finally proposing positive policies that directly benefit citizens is a radical socialist who needs to be stopped and we all need to vote for the disgraced former governor who resigned after killing seniors during covid and groping his employees. Even here on HN where people are generally well educated you have people arguing. that Mamdani will somehow be the ruin of new york.

Politics in america is like entering an inverted world in which some weird internal drive actively makes people vote against their own personal interests.

sershe•42m ago
Rent control in particular is an economic basket case policy, the fact that it's popular at election time should have about as much bearing on it making sense as the fact that another "experimental" candidate was considered by voters in 2024 to be "better on immigration"

As for offering free stuff, the problem that - if you look at relative population numbers - NY, CA, etc are already facing is that on the margin people he hopes will pay for it will just move away.

voidhorse•35m ago
Rent is a nonproductive component in the economy. It shouldn't even exist. If we want an economy that actually provides goods that people need we should focus on productive components like building more houses and actual shelter rather than using limited housing to extract profit, often without even improving the housing itself.

> are already facing is that on the margin people he hopes will pay for it will just move away.

This myth is promulgated constantly with no evidence to back it up. The tax increases he has proposed are a drop in the pond to the bracket he aims to tax. If those people care so little for the city, so be it, they can leave. I don't need to share communal space with people who want to live as atoms and don't actually care about the place they live beyond how it affects their bottom line. If they actually love NYC for the city it is, they will stay. The increases are not going to be untenable for those people, it all comes down to their priorities, and if they don't want to prioritize NYC, then yes, they should gtfo because they are characterless, tasteless people who only care about themselves and their money.

nostrebored•30m ago
Rent is a nonproductive component in the economy is a ridiculous statement. People need shelter and like nice shelter. People pay for access to amenities and convenience. _incentivizing building housing in areas where people want to live or where people work is efficient_
voidhorse•22m ago
Nothing you've said has anything to do with rent. It'd be equally possible to build and incentivize building housing and then to enable people to own homes or at least own units within multi family homes.

Rent is a predatory practice established over and above the supply of a basic need (housing) that does nothing more than extract profits for no productive contribution. If anything I'm incentivized to limit housing supply as a landlord in the limit because growing housing supply means competition for me as a landlord.

nostrebored•14m ago
Right, and it’s a good thing that the people producing housing, legislating housing production, and in control of housing supply aren’t the same.

Why is owning a home important? I do not think that home ownership is what most people want. We have attempted to make this desirable at through state intervention by pitching housing as an investment instead of a durable good.

saying one of the many reasons rent is good “is not about rent” doesn’t mean there’s no clash in the argument.

All moving to an entirely ownership model would do is reduce elasticity of the housing market, which would be disastrous.

bawolff•27m ago
> If we want an economy that actually provides goods that people need we should focus on productive components like building more houses and actual shelter

What if we built some on spec and then charged people who live in them a monthly fee to recoup the cost. That way we could build more houses immediately without having to get all the money together all at once. We could then use the extra money to build even more houses.

arijun•16m ago
> Rent is a nonproductive component in the economy ... we should focus on productive components like building more houses

Through... rent?

handfuloflight•23m ago
The experimental part is that he's Brown and Muslim.
lisbbb•24m ago
Experiments with communism never turn out well. Good luck, though. I doubt very much really changes.
android521•19m ago
Experiments have already been done. You just need to look at history. Or you can just look at north korea and Kabul .
Agreed3750•55m ago
Great! Now time to get to work and see how hard it is to enact his policies.
sciencesama•51m ago
Need to see how stocks will react tomorrow!! Nyc mayor mamdani ! Crash at Louisville airport and judgement on trump tariffs !! 1 billion Bitcoin liquidation!
nemo44x•47m ago
Republicans have completely given up on cities and without being able to even field a worthy candidate it’s the sign of a dying party longer term. You simply have to have some influence in cities. But they had none after a 20 year run where they remade NYC after decades of failure. Bloomberg went independent but he got in as a Republican after a successful Giuliani admin (yes he’s tarnished that).

But what happened? Why can’t they field a competitive candidate in cities like NYC or SF or LA or Chicago after failed admin after failed admin? Why have they given up?

You need to control cities to have any future. They need to recommit to fighting for them.

darkwizard42•38m ago
The current Republican playbook seems to be heavily gerrymander a couple of states to dilute the city population impact. See: Texas
nemo44x•25m ago
They all gerrymander though. But that’s not the point. The point is fleeing cities is what conquered people do. It wouldn’t even be hard to win them.
TimorousBestie•33m ago
> You need to control cities to have any future.

It seems like the strategy is to control state legislatures through extensive gerrymandering, then use state sovereignty to control the cities from without. Blue cities in otherwise red states are not able to experiment with local policies anymore, much to everyone’s detriment.

nemo44x•28m ago
That’s not even the point though. You can always do these things but you still have no cultural power and you’ve yielded the important structures and financial capitals. That’s not a long term strategy.

And it’s not that difficult to win these things, especially when you look at how objectively poor the oppositions performance has been in them. Historically they’ve been contested.

seydor•44m ago
The fact that people in here (who are richer than average) disagree with his policies makes his election more hopeful
drannex•35m ago
Agreed. Thank you for pointing that out.
lisbbb•19m ago
Why is that? I think many of us who are educated in history understand the risks of collectivism. It has never worked out anywhere. I see it as basically a marketing cover for oligarchy. The Western world should aspire to better than China. I'm not even a conservative, just read a lot. Humanity has had some pretty hellish experiences with communism and yet we keep "going there."
HellDunkel•3m ago
Greetings from western europe. Not so bad and communist around here. They call it social capitalism.
wantlotsofcurry•9m ago
Absolutely. I love it.
Workaccount2•3m ago
The reality, which kinda sucks and is boring, is that generally people with money understand how money works, and why things like rent control, government grocery stores, and free [expensive service], are financially brutal policies.
robotresearcher•23m ago
Good grief, NBC runs such shitty junk ads on their front page. What a blight on a once-great brand.
bix6•16m ago
I love how much Mamdani pisses people off just because he wants to buck the status quo. I don’t think he’ll get everything implemented he wants but I respect the mission.
dfee•4m ago
Really feels like off topic discussions are no longer enforced. I’m tired of HN being about politics :(

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html