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ICC ditches Microsoft 365 for openDesk

https://www.binnenlandsbestuur.nl/digitaal/internationaal-strafhof-neemt-afscheid-van-microsoft-365
186•vincvinc•1h ago•45 comments

Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/thinking.html
236•nekofneko•3h ago•66 comments

Swift on FreeBSD Preview

https://forums.swift.org/t/swift-on-freebsd-preview/83064
41•glhaynes•46m ago•10 comments

OpenDesk – a flexible all-in-one office suite for the public sector

https://www.opendesk.eu/de
21•gjvc•20m ago•4 comments

Open Source Implementation of Apple's Private Compute Cloud

https://github.com/openpcc/openpcc
269•adam_gyroscope•1d ago•50 comments

I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

https://dev.karltryggvason.com/how-i-analyzed-the-lineups-at-the-worlds-most-popular-nightclubs/
102•kalli•4h ago•52 comments

FBI tries to unmask owner of archive.is

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Archive-today-FBI-Demands-Data-from-Provider-Tucows-11066346.html
284•Projectiboga•2h ago•142 comments

Eating stinging nettles

https://rachel.blog/2018/04/29/eating-stinging-nettles/
105•rzk•6h ago•108 comments

Senior BizOps at Artie (San Francisco)

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/artie/jobs/gqANVBc-senior-business-operations
1•tang8330•1h ago

Ratatui – App Showcase

https://ratatui.rs/showcase/apps/
635•AbuAssar•15h ago•184 comments

Australia has so much solar that it's offering everyone free electricity

https://electrek.co/2025/11/04/australia-has-so-much-solar-that-its-offering-everyone-free-electr...
144•ohjeez•3h ago•96 comments

Mathematical exploration and discovery at scale

https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2025/11/05/mathematical-exploration-and-discovery-at-scale/
179•nabla9•8h ago•70 comments

Show HN: See chords as flags – Visual harmony of top composers on musescore

https://rawl.rocks/
79•vitaly-pavlenko•23h ago•15 comments

Springs and Bounces in Native CSS

https://www.joshwcomeau.com/animation/linear-timing-function/
19•Bogdanp•1w ago•2 comments

The Parallel Search API

https://parallel.ai/blog/introducing-parallel-search
13•lukaslevert•1h ago•4 comments

Cloudflare Tells U.S. Govt That Foreign Site Blocking Efforts Are Trade Barriers

https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-tells-u-s-govt-that-foreign-site-blocking-efforts-are-digital...
218•iamnothere•4h ago•127 comments

Solarpunk is happening in Africa

https://climatedrift.substack.com/p/why-solarpunk-is-already-happening
1082•JoiDegn•22h ago•525 comments

How often does Python allocate?

https://zackoverflow.dev/writing/how-often-does-python-allocate/
51•ingve•4d ago•32 comments

Pico-100BASE-TX: Bit-Banged 100 MBit/s Ethernet and UDP Framer for RP2040/RP2350

https://github.com/steve-m/Pico-100BASE-TX
58•_Microft•6d ago•7 comments

Show HN: qqqa – A fast, stateless LLM-powered assistant for your shell

https://github.com/matisojka/qqqa
74•iagooar•7h ago•71 comments

The English language doesn't exist – it's just French that's badly pronounced

https://www.frenchclasses.com/tablettes-de-chocolat/the-english-language-doesnt-exist-its-just-fr...
54•detectivestory•1h ago•56 comments

How I am deeply integrating Emacs

https://joshblais.com/blog/how-i-am-deeply-integrating-emacs/
174•signa11•11h ago•113 comments

I may have found a way to spot U.S. at-sea strikes before they're announced

https://old.reddit.com/r/OSINT/comments/1opjjyv/i_may_have_found_a_way_to_spot_us_atsea_strikes/
172•hentrep•13h ago•196 comments

Dillo, a multi-platform graphical web browser

https://github.com/dillo-browser/dillo
415•nazgulsenpai•23h ago•163 comments

Phantom in the Light: The story of early spectroscopy

https://chrisdempewolf.com/posts/phantom-in-the-light/
3•dempedempe•1w ago•0 comments

Firefox profiles: Private, focused spaces for all the ways you browse

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/profile-management/
352•darkwater•1w ago•176 comments

ChatGPT terms disallow its use in providing legal and medical advice to others

https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/article/openai-updates-policies-so-chatgpt-wont-provide-medical-o...
361•randycupertino•1d ago•396 comments

Supply chain attacks are exploiting our assumptions

https://blog.trailofbits.com/2025/09/24/supply-chain-attacks-are-exploiting-our-assumptions/
14•crescit_eundo•2h ago•2 comments

End of Japanese community

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/717446
844•phantomathkg•15h ago•649 comments

AI Slop vs. OSS Security

https://devansh.bearblog.dev/ai-slop/
161•mooreds•6h ago•93 comments
Open in hackernews

FBI tries to unmask owner of archive.is

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Archive-today-FBI-Demands-Data-from-Provider-Tucows-11066346.html
281•Projectiboga•2h ago

Comments

Projectiboga•2h ago
The FBI is attempting to unmask the owner behind archive.today, a popular archiving site that is also regularly used to bypass paywalls on the internet and to avoid sending traffic to the original publishers of web content, according to a subpoena posted by the website. The FBI subpoena says it is part of a criminal investigation, though it does not provide any details about what alleged crime is being investigated. Archive.today is also popularly known by several of its mirrors, including archive.is and archive.ph.

The subpoena, which was posted on X by archive.today on October 30, was sent by the FBI to Tucows, a popular Canadian domain registrar. It demands that Tucows give the FBI the “customer or subscriber name, address of service, and billing address” and other information about the “customer behind archive.today.”

“THE INFORMATION SOUGHT THROUGH THIS SUBPOENA RELATES TO A FEDERAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED BY THE FBI,” the subpoena says. “YOUR COMPANY IS REQUIRED TO FURNISH THIS INFORMATION. YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO DISCLOSE THE EXISTENCE OF THIS SUBPOENA INDEFINITELY AS ANY SUCH DISCLOSURE COULD INTERFERE WITH AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.”

The subpoena also requests “Local and long distance telephone connection records (examples include: incoming and outgoing calls, push-to-talk, and SMS/MMS connection records); Means and source of payment (including any credit card or bank account number); Records of session times and duration for Internet connectivity; Telephone or Instrument number (including IMEI, IMSI, UFMI, and ESN) and/or other customer/subscriber number(s) used to identify customer/subscriber, including any temporarily assigned network address (including Internet Protocol addresses); Types of service used (e.g. push-to-talk, text, three-way calling, email services, cloud computing, gaming services, etc.)”

-snip-

Read more: https://www.404media.co/fbi-tries-to-unmask-owner-of-infamou...

hrimfaxi•1h ago
> YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO DISCLOSE THE EXISTENCE OF THIS SUBPOENA INDEFINITELY AS ANY SUCH DISCLOSURE COULD INTERFERE WITH AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.

Is this actually a mere request, as in the receiver is _not_ required to avoid disclosure?

Separately—can't believe tucows is still around!

righthand•1h ago
Well Tucows is Canadian so the FBI can take their “request” somewhere else.
mothballed•1h ago
Isn't the whole thing a request? The FBI has no power in Canada unless they go through Canadian legal channels, no? If I received a subpoena from a foreign sovereign I would just use it as toilet paper.
squarefoot•1h ago
Pretty sure if Tucows had been in the US, the "request" would have been a gag order or something alike.
bossyTeacher•4m ago
Until you travel to the US 10 years later for someone's wedding or what not completely forgetting about the matter and you end up arrested
mothballed•2m ago
I doubt anyone forgets about such matters. I spent some time in Syria in an organization classified by the Turks (but not the US) as 'terrorists' and as a consequence I could be executed in Turkey. As a consequence I never fly through Turkey or any country allied closer to Turkey than the US or Europe.
c22•1h ago
They probably cannot require this. They may be able to get you on interfering with their investigation if you disclosed with the intent of interfering. Probably adding this notice helps them prove you were aware of the potential to cause interference, at least. IANAL.
yatopifo•1h ago
As a Canadian, I really hope Tucows is going to send a particularly nasty response to the FBI. Canada should never collaborate with any US authorities!
wikipedia•3m ago
> Canada should never collaborate with any US authorities!

Cross-border collaboration is a good thing. Our agencies regularly collaborate to bring people who feel insulted and emboldened to account for their crimes. This works both ways.

August 12, 2025 - Canadian Man Sentenced to 188 Months for Attempted Online Enticement of a Minor and Possessing Child Pornography [1]

August 21, 2024 - Canadian National Extradited To The United States Pleads Guilty To Production Of Child Sex Abuse Material And Enticement Of Minors

December 20, 2024 - Extradited Canadian National Sentenced To Life In Federal Prison for producing child sexual abuse material and enticement of a minor [3]

[1] https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndny/pr/canadian-man-sentenced-...

[2] https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/canadian-national-extra...

[3] https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/extradited-canadian-nat...

mystraline•1h ago
The term that Cory Doctorow has called these styles of stunts is:

Felony contempt of business model.

Turns out, our very user, Saurik, came up with this term!

https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/23/how-to-fix-cars-by-breaki...

superkuh•1h ago
"Infamous"? About as infamous as heise.de. Weird framing. Many people do not like the past being available for reference when they lie about in the future. And that's what this federal attack stems from.

"who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past"

Projectiboga•1h ago
I just posted an exerpt of the 404 article but decided to link the source.
cyansmoker•1h ago
My thoughts exactly. This title is needlessly editorializing.
johnnienaked•1h ago
Why on earth did you get downvoted?
PLenz•1h ago
https://archive.ph/XdQRp
postexitus•48m ago
thank you!
55555•1h ago
https://archive.is/XdQRp
hrimfaxi•1h ago
The government can take down huge criminal networks on the darkweb but can't identify the owner of a clearnet site?
r721•1h ago
That owner is not so simple - I recall how they alleged in a Wikipedia discussion he(?) used some botnet or proxy network for adding archive.is mirror links to Wiki entries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment...
noident•1h ago
They can and they will. Filing a subpoena for information is a step in that process.

If the WHOIS records are falsified they'll start looking at payment information.

tuhgdetzhh•1h ago
Since you refer to the darkweb. The gov has extensivley studied Tor and likely has zero day exploits for the Tor browser and operates a bunch of Tor relays. Given enough time and effort it is very much possible for state actors to identify Tor users.

But unless you are a high profile gov target, Tor protects you well.

FuriouslyAdrift•28m ago
Tor was created by the US Navy.
mmooss•5m ago
> unless you are a high profile gov target, Tor protects you well.

How do you really know that? I understand the theory, but do you have evidence? Have you tested it or read research that has tested it?

I would hesitate to give advice to people when they could get hurt.

seg_lol•1h ago
I thought this was common knowledge? Did they try googling it?
jameslk•1h ago
Maybe they ran into a paywall
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF•1h ago
The thought to google it doesn't really have a chance to enter their head if they don't know about it.
r721•1h ago
Related HN discussion from 2023: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37009598
bgwalter•1h ago
That is very funny. "AI" corporations are funding a scraper to subvert paywalls:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45835090

The FBI should investigate the "AI" companies and also the demise of Suchir Balaji, a copyright whistleblower who according to a sloppy local police investigation committed "suicide" hours after being seen cheerfully collecting a doordash delivery on CCTV.

oytis•1h ago
AI provides shareholder value, while archive.is reduces shareholder value, and that's all that matters
jrockway•1h ago
I don't think it's even that abstract anymore. The AI companies donated to help Trump build a ballroom. archive.is didn't.
lifestyleguru•1h ago
I'm so confused by this power dynamics. So you can torrent movies just fine from Meta/Google office in Germany? No matter how you look at it, the White House has holes in the walls as in Idiocracy.
yawnxyz•1h ago
ironic that archive.is itself has so many bot protections...!
oytis•1h ago
Nothing infamous about it. It's the only way to stay informed from diverse sources since proliferation of paywalls started
zhobbs•1h ago
And if no one pays for any of that content there will be zero ways to stay informed!
falcor84•1h ago
Information has existed long before the invention of money, and will outlive it.
dclowd9901•1h ago
Are there no ads on the site?
charcircuit•1h ago
Isn't paying to remove paywalls another way?
oytis•10m ago
If you are OK with getting your information from one or two sources - why not. You can also subscribe to a newspaper. But surely internet can do (and did until relatively recently!) better than that.

Paywall epidemic is a recent phenomenon, internet media managed to exist before that.

shevy-java•1h ago
We need to preserve data. The FBI is trying to kill data.

We can not allow the FBI to work for Evil here. I actually think there should be a human right to data. With that I mean, primarily, knowledge, not to data about a single human being as such (e. g. "doxxing" or any such crap - I mean knowledge).

Knowledge itself should become a human right. I understand that the current law is very favourable to mega-corporations milking mankind dry, but the law should also be changed. (I am not anti-business per se, mind you - I just think the law should not become a tool to contain human rights, including access to knowledge and information at all times.)

Wikipedia is somewhat ok, but it also misses a TON of stuff, and unfortunately it only has one primary view, whereas many things need some explanation before one can understand it. When I read up on a (to me) new topic, I try to focus on simple things and master these first. Some wikipedia articles are so complicated that even after staring at them for several minutes, and reading it, I still haven't the slightest clue what this is about. This is also a problem of wikipedia - as so many different people write things, it is sometimes super-hard to understand what wikipedia is trying to convey here.

baxtr•1h ago
I agree. Knowledge should belong to all of humanity.

But then also don’t be angry at big corporations when they scrape the entire internet.

foofoo12•1h ago
Big corporations aren't humans.
exe34•1h ago
they are persons under US law.
JadeNB•1h ago
But US law isn't even the law of the world, let alone the definition of reality.
lazide•1h ago
How are you planning on doing anything about it?
JohnFen•1h ago
Only in a couple of very specific and narrow ways. They are not considered persons generally under US law. They are legal fictions that have been granted a subset of rights that people have.
nobodyandproud•1h ago
And that subset of rights keeps expanding.
bossyTeacher•16m ago
US law only applies in the US. Plus, the company in question seems to be based in Canada, so outside the FBI jurisdiction
capitainenemo•1h ago
While it's true people are upset at AI companies profiting off of artist creations with no compensation, I know a lot of people are also reacting to how the recent AI companies have been scraping the web. The reason folks are using Anubis and other methods is because unlike Google which did have archiving of sites for a long time (which was actually a great service), these new companies do not respect robots.txt, do not crawl at a reasonable rate (for us, thousands of hits a minute from their botnets - usually baidu/tencent, but also plenty of US IPs), hit the same resource repeatedly, ignoring headers intended to give cache hints, stupidly hitting thousands of variations of a page when crawling search results with no detection that they are getting basically the same thing... And when you ban them, they then switch to residential ranges. It really is malicious.
gilfoy•59m ago
> AI companies profiting

Are they?

johneth•41m ago
If you boil it down to the AI companies are making money (subscriptions, etc.) based on content they did not pay to produce, then they are profiting from someone else's hard work.
BigTTYGothGF•31m ago
Revenue is not profit.
smarf•18m ago
'stealing is fine if you lose money when reselling'
BigTTYGothGF•13m ago
I don't believe I wrote anything of the sort.
johneth•12m ago
I didn't say it was. I understand that profit = revenue - cost.

I said they're profiting from other people's hard work, a separate concept.

Teever•13m ago
People at these companies are receiving a salary to do these things that the person you're responding to is opposed to.

While not all the companies in question may or may not be profiting from these things some of them are, and most if not all of their employees certainly are as well.

HeinzStuckeIt•1h ago
A lot of the outrage isn't at scraping, it is at the disruptive techniques used to do so. Like web-scraping whole websites that already provide convenient images of their content for download.
pbae•57m ago
Feels like now we're just redefining our rules so that the people we don't like are out and the people we like are in. Does the content creator have the right to determine how their work is used or not?
wat10000•1h ago
It's not that they're scraping the internet, it's that they're scraping the internet, profiting off the data they take, and still using the copyright regime to go after others who do unto them.
hooverd•1h ago
Well, as long as they pursue a "copyright for me but not for thee" regime, you can.
dclowd9901•1h ago
One thing is not the other. A corporation is not a human (and no I don't care what Citizens United says). A corporation has no inherent rights.
TrueDuality•1h ago
This is a false equivalency I'm surprised no one else has brought up. An archive of a site preserves attribution inherently, the scraping and training are not.
kulahan•1h ago
Is it? I thought it was ridiculous at first, but the more I think of it... both are scenarios where a corporation is scraping billions of webpages. We like the reason archive.is does it, but unless it's some kind of charity, I think it's a reasonable comparison.
didibus•46m ago
archive.is is a charity no? Or at least they take donations, it seems the legal entity behind it is nebulous, but they don't have ads and have no paid product or offering.
hoistbypetard•4m ago
They sure as shit do have ads. Have you ever accidentally followed a link using a browser profile that has no ad blocking enabled?

I only rarely browse without some form of content blocking (usually privacy-focused... that takes care of enough ads for me, most of the time). I keep a browser profile that's got no customizations at all, though, for verifying that bugs I see/want to report are not related to one of my extensions.

Every once in a while, I'll accidentally open a link to a news site (or to an archive of such a site) in that vanilla profile. I'm shocked at how many ads you see if you don't take some counter measures.

I just confirmed in that profile: archive.is definitely puts ads around the sites they've archived.

warkdarrior•35m ago
So if OpenAI or <AI scraper of the day> adds attribution to their AI-generated answers, everything is OK?
phantasmish•54m ago
There's no contradiction in wanting an abolition (or at least substantial curtailment) of copyright while also being upset that mass violations of copyright magically become legal if you've got enough money.

Enforcement being unjustly balanced in favor of the rich & powerful is a separate issue from whether there should be enforcement in the first place—"if we must do this, it should at least be fair, and if it's not going to be fair, it at least shouldn't be unfair in favor of the already-powerful" is a totally valid position to hold, while also believing, "however, ideally, we should just not do this in the first place".

warkdarrior•37m ago
> There's no contradiction in wanting an abolition (or at least substantial curtailment) of copyright while also being upset that mass violations of copyright magically become legal if you've got enough money.

Why can't you just be happy for those few who are lucky enough to be able to violate copyright with no consequences? Yes, I know you'd want everyone to be able to violate copyright, but we're not there yet.

didibus•49m ago
That's a bad take, just like open source code is available to all, it's not the case you can always resell it or repackage it for your own profit.

Information can be made available to all, and at the same time, we can make it so others cannot resell or repackage it for profit like what AI companies are doing.

pkilgore•47m ago
Hot take here, I know, but some of us believe the law should treat large corporations differently than it treats individuals when it comes to their rights and privileges.
FractalParadigm•40m ago
This seems like an incredible disingenuous take. There's a marked difference between collecting information to freely share with the rest of humanity, and collecting information to feed into algorithms under the guise of "artificial intelligence" with the pretense of enriching their finances and putting others out of work.
scotty79•31m ago
> But then also don’t be angry at big corporations when they scrape the entire internet.

I'm only angry with them when they pay hush money to IP extortionists.

zahlman•45m ago
> Wikipedia is somewhat ok, but it also misses a TON of stuff, and unfortunately it only has one primary view, whereas many things need some explanation before one can understand it.

Last I checked, they had archive.is blacklisted; the people with power there had (as far as I can tell) come to the conclusion that people using that site to prove that websites had stated X on date Y were the bad guys. Of course, they still have archive.org sources everywhere, so the objection is not actually to archiving page content.

Tons of claims also seem to be sourced ultimately to thinly-disguised promotional material (e.g. claims of the prevalence of a problem backed up by the sites of companies offering products to combat the problem) and opinion pieces that happen to mention an objective (but not verified) claim in passing.

mzajc•38m ago
Where did you check this? While neither are listed on WP:RSP, I know many cites are changed into web.archive.org links once they go down.
throw0101d•26m ago
> Last I checked, they had archive.is blacklisted; the people with power there had (as far as I can tell) come to the conclusion that people using that site to prove that websites had stated X on date Y were the bad guys.

Or they're worried about the paywall by-passing functionality (which is probably what a good portion of people use it for) and copyright claims against archive.today potentially having it taken down and thus breaking a lot of links.

heisgone•26m ago
I heard stories of incriminating stuff for higher-ups disappearing from archive.org.
layman51•12m ago
I heard stories about a potential Oracle data breach (I think mainly affecting their customers) being removed from Archive.org too. It’s because in general, they comply with requests to remove stuff, which is understandable from an ethical perspective. But do they at least try to explain the reason for the takedown? Is it just not feasible to do that?
Yokolos•21m ago
The difference is that we know who's running archive.org. We don't know who's running archive.is. That's perfectly fine for private use but unacceptable for a site like Wikipedia.

It's not that difficult.

otterley•35m ago
> I actually think there should be a human right to data. With that I mean, primarily, knowledge, not to data about a single human being as such

How do you suggest we fund the difficult work needed to investigate, research, and produce such data?

Remember that facts are not copyrightable, and as such, can't be restricted by copyright. Creative expression of those facts, on the other hand, can be.

pessimizer•31m ago
> We can not allow the FBI to work for Evil here.

It's not up to us to tell the FBI what to do, that's a fatal misunderstanding about how power works. You can demand to see the FBI's manager, but I doubt it will get you anywhere. You can choose between two candidates offered by the privately owned and run political parties for whom the FBI works, but I don't think that will help either.

> Knowledge itself should become a human right.

Human rights are created by legislation. Unless you own a legislator (or rather, many legislators), you will not be involved in this. The people who own (and parcel out) knowledge itself, however, will be involved.

It would be better if we stopped making pronouncements about what people more powerful than us should be doing. It's like prisoners talking about what the jail should be doing. You should talk about what you should be doing. And don't mistake demanding for doing, or walking in the street with your friends for activism (unless you're violating curfew and are prepared to defend yourselves.)

Be brave. Put forward a program that might fail. Ask people to help you with it, ask them to follow you, tell them where to show up. Join someone else and help with their program. Don't demand, then whine when they say "of course not." The FBI is not your daddy, and the people running it are not running it on your behalf.

I don't mean to be personal, but this type of talk is empty. The way how to do things is decided is through power; and the way weak people exercise power is collectively, through discussion and coordinated action. Anybody can talk about what they would do if they were dictator of the world.

BigTTYGothGF•31m ago
> We can not allow the FBI to work for Evil here

Historically speaking I can't see this as even being in the top 100 evil things the FBI has done.

throw0101d•25m ago
> Historically speaking I can't see this as even being in the top 100 evil things the FBI has done.

Perhaps, but we can't change the past: we can only fight against what is happening in the present to try to get a better future.

clueless•1h ago
Is there a dump of all archive.is sites (similar to libgen dumps) in case it goes down, so it could be set back up again?
scandox•1h ago
While we're here how does archive.today bypass paywalls?
cheraderama•1h ago
I thought it just sees a full version for crawlers?
runjake•47m ago
Nope, see r721's comment above yours for how it purportedly works.
r721•1h ago
>What scraper or headless browser are you using? it works so well.

>Before 2019 - PhantomJS, after - ordinary (not headless) Chromium/80 with few small patches.

https://blog.archive.today/post/618635148292964352/what-scra... (2020)

>Archive.today launches real browsers (not even headless) and tries to load lazy images, unroll folded content, login into accounts if prompted with login form, remove “subscribe our maillist” modals

https://blog.archive.today/post/642952252228812800/people-of...

scandox•44m ago
I get that it convincingly simulates a human but so do I (because I am a human) and I don't get through the paywall...
r721•38m ago
There are some tricks which work for different websites - for example, for NYT it's enough to manually clear nytimes.com cookies, FT used to work after click from twitter/x and so on. So I guess there is some set of heuristics.
postexitus•46m ago
They are not actually bypassing firewalls - therefore I think they are on ethically good grounds. Those sites show their full text for web crawlers - only not to humans. Basically, archive.is and the folk simulate that through various means. Headless browsers, better agent injection etc.
mr_mitm•17m ago
I don't think that's true. If it was that simple, there would be browser plugins or other apps that would replicate that behavior. Do you know of any?
sharts•1h ago
this is a waste tax payer funds.
pavon•1h ago
This might not be about copyright. I generally avoid these mirror sites because they seem like the perfect opportunity for watering hole attacks. The challenge with a normal watering hole attack is that you have to control the site in question either by hacking or infiltrating it. Imagine however if you were able to act as a middle man to the most popular websites in the world, and people would voluntarily post links to your site all over the internet, including very valuable audiences (like HN). You would have free rein to selectively inject malware to just readers at targeted IP blocks, minimizing chances of detection because most users would never be served malware. The possibilities are endless, government espionage, corporate espionage, activists, political opponents.

To be clear I have no reason to believe specific instances of these sites are malicious, but I would be shocked if black hats weren't trying to get into this space in general.

freedomben•24m ago
For sure, you shouldn't just trust whatever random mirroring site pops up (in fact, you probably should trust almost none of them), but archive.is has established themselves pretty credibly IMHO. At some point it could turn, but I don't think we should kill them now just in case they turn at some point.

The fact that the FBI is involved, and given the insane amount of IP protection racket stuff going on, I think it's pretty highly likely this is all about copyright. I think the powerful interests care more about copyright than they do about most other things.

runjake•47m ago
Maybe, but the subpoena doesn't shed light on what they are being investigated for. It is only demanding information.

The FBI could be investigating them for archive.today, they could be investigated because of that apparent botnet, they could be investigating them because some billionaire media mogul friend of the current POTUS is outraged at the loss of revenue. To the best of my knowledge, the reasons aren't public.

Still, it doesn't mean we shouldn't be asking questions or expressing concern over this.

teeray•1h ago
I pay subscriptions to some of these sites and still use archive.is on them because it is a more pleasant reading experience. No auth failures, no annoying popover windows begging me to subscribe to their dumb newsletter. Just the internet equivalent of a static piece of newsprint.
93po•52m ago
ublock with annoyance filters also solves this
Scoundreller•18m ago
I used to do the same with Lynx but enough websites have now broken it.
greatgib•1h ago
When there are a few simple nice things making our lives a little bit more bearable, there are always other zealous assholes desperate to ruin that.

Here I speak about this site, but everyday we have new cases of that. Like "new tax on anything that starts to be popular" for France, or Google trying to kill our privacy and F-Droid by requiring all app devs to have attestation from them.

lifestyleguru•1h ago
Copyright lobbyists and sport broadcasters, the ultimate overlords of the web.
perihelions•1h ago
They pardoned the Silk Road drug lord to go after a copyright infringement-lord instead? It's not even in their effective jurisdiction, if this indeed is a Russian national. Don't they have more important Russian crimes to investigate?

I read there was a US government investigation tracking Ukranian children abducted by Russian forces, but supposedly there weren't enough resources [0] to sustain that.

[0] https://www.npr.org/2025/03/19/nx-s1-5333328/trump-admin-cut...

yapyap•1h ago
The US gov doesn’t even care about copyright infringement, just in the cases where big companies are inconvenienced by it and it’s done by an individual / small company instead of a mega AI corp swallowing up all copyrighted content to vomit out their own spin on it through algorithms.
gverrilla•1h ago
there's no lordship because afaik there's no direct profit
Aurornis•1h ago
> They pardoned the Silk Road drug lord to go after a copyright infringement-lord instead?

The president’s pardons are not popular with the FBI and law enforcement. The FBI is not happy about doing all of the work to prosecute people only to have the president override it for political reasons.

nobodyandproud•57m ago
Source? Any of them still employed?
avgDev•56m ago
I don't think it is political reasons, seems like it is for large donation reasons.
rokkamokka•49m ago
In the US, this is much the same thing
lesuorac•47m ago
That is a political reason...

It convinces others that you're willing to pardon them too in exchange for money and convincing other people is the definition of politics.

warkdarrior•32m ago
That is not political, it is purely a service offered at a price. There is no specific political agenda behind these pardons (i.e., they don't pardon only folks who are, for example, Evangelicals or anti-immigration or whatever), the only criteria is payment.
buildsjets•47m ago
Is there a difference?
manquer•42m ago
I guess OP means to say it is not idealogical reasons.

Op means to say this type of pardon is not to meant to win votes or satisfy the demands of constituents, Like with convicted cops or people with weed related crimes etc or pardoning draft dodgers after Vietnam or civil war and so on .

While money is involved deeply in politics and financial corruption is there , occasionally idealogical (political) actions without direct financial benefits also happen.

It is hard to say whether this pardon of Silk Road founder was motivated by libertarian, or crypto community pressure or by financial donations to the party etc both are possible even at the same time but they are different considerations

mothballed•59m ago
Trump pardoned Ross largely to buy the (big L) Libertarian vote. It was announced at his speech with the Libertarian Convention.

Not for any ideological reason.

prodigycorp•49m ago
It's not the libertarian vote that he cared about in particular so much as it was the firehose of crypto money that was supporting free ross.
IncreasePosts•39m ago
This seems more likely - how many libertarians are there in the US? Surely there are much larger groups you can appeal to if votes is what you're after
mothballed•37m ago
I don't think the crypto crowd was ever at hazard at not voting for Trump, so I'm not sure what the advantage would have been with respect to them. However, the libertarian crowd was.

As a libertarian voter, the pardon for Ross was the only thing Trump did that actually brought me pause. To the point, I felt immensely guilty for not voting for him when I voted (L) because I knew[thought] I was damning Ross to a jail cell. It weighed on my conscious for a long time after the vote, an it wasn't until Trump won I felt somewhat absolved of the guilt.

godshatter•14m ago
There are dozens of us. And none of us can agree on anything.
freedomben•29m ago
> Silk Road drug lord

Oh please. Ross was no saint by any stretch and it does look like he may have made a very dark decision at one point, but it didn't happen in a vacuum. There's a mountain of details and nuance around that case, including a whole host of law enforcement abuses that many people would find distasteful if not sickening if they actually got the whole story.

joshmn•20m ago
They got me—a copyright infringement lord—too. The FBI profile assigned to me even wrote in a case study that the FBI thought I was making millions, amongst other misses.

Their priorities are highly political.

socket0•1h ago
Imagine tech journalists in 2025 not knowing what a canary is...
4cidBurn•1h ago
The FBI is targeting Archive.is, a botnet-powered archive that has operated openly for years. What a fascinating mix of tech and legal exposure.
edm0nd•27m ago
They are probably just using proxies to scrape from and not directly or knowingly using proxies supplied by botnets.
4cidBurn•12m ago
Knowingly or not, they're still an accomplice. They're basically the getaway driver for cached webpages.
butlike•1h ago
Never knew archive.is was run by a "masked man"
johnnienaked•1h ago
This is the way to defend the free spirit of the internet.
system2•1h ago
Can they enforce DNS companies (ISP, cloudflare etc) to block these domains globally if they want to?
neuronexmachina•33m ago
Cloudflare's DNS actually hasn't worked with archive.today for >5 years, due to the site returning bad results in response to Cloudflare not sending EDNS subnet info. HN comment from someone at Cloudflare: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828702

> Archive.is’s authoritative DNS servers return bad results to 1.1.1.1 when we query them. I’ve proposed we just fix it on our end but our team, quite rightly, said that too would violate the integrity of DNS and the privacy and security promises we made to our users when we launched the service.

> The archive.is owner has explained that he returns bad results to us because we don’t pass along the EDNS subnet information. This information leaks information about a requester’s IP and, in turn, sacrifices the privacy of users. This is especially problematic as we work to encrypt more DNS traffic since the request from Resolver to Authoritative DNS is typically unencrypted. We’re aware of real world examples where nationstate actors have monitored EDNS subnet information to track individuals, which was part of the motivation for the privacy and security policies of 1.1.1.1.

winkelmann•23m ago
This was fixed/changed at some point. I use Cloudflare's DNS and it works fine for me.
dtagames•59m ago
While strangely unpopular here, Yasha Levine's[0] well documented premise is that the entire existence of the internet is designed for surveillance and content control, down to the chip level, and this is mandated and enforced through laws as well as more covert agreements.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Surveillance-Valley-Military-History-...

neilv•58m ago
> There are also indications that the operator(s) are based in Russia.

That's long been my assumption.

What I haven't known was whether this was good Russian people (culturally valuing literature and intellect) wanting to be able to access articles that they can't afford.

Nor whether it was or could become something sketchier (e.g., feeding spy databases, or one nice Chrome zero-day and strategic timing away from compromising engineering workstations at most US tech companies where an employee reads HN).

But what actually bothers me about the misc `archive.*` sites is how HN routinely uses them, for US tech company workers to circumvent paywalls for struggling journalism organizations. This piracy practice seems to have the unofficial blessing of the US tech investor firm that runs and moderates HN. Besides whatever laws this is breaking, subjectively, it feels to me like crossing an ethical line, and also (economically) like punching down.

miohtama•45m ago
The problem with the paywalls is that everyone offers a subscription. If you want to read a single article you do not want to subscribe to some US newspaper.

x402 solves this.

JKCalhoun•24m ago
I can't argue with your ethical concerns.

The internet is fundamentally different than print though—perhaps this fundamental change to journalism requires another way to pay the bills. (Advertising is the obvious one.)

Or maybe we, as a society (because of our internet ways) simply don't deserve these services any longer.

Perhaps the internet itself is the problem. What if instead that was the big mistake after all?

layman51•52m ago
It is pretty sad that this is happening and that it apparently is at risk of just disappearing soon. I understand there are a lot of ethical concerns with that site, but if I use like the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine to try to save some specific documentation pages for certain proprietary software, it absolutely fails to actually save the content. So then it is just a bit more difficult to save a particular knowledge base article before it might get rewritten or updated.
1vuio0pswjnm7•51m ago
One can only imagine the sharing and reading histories the operator has accumulated on the people using it. No restrictions on how the operator can use that data

Archive.today is very popular with HN commenters

miohtama•43m ago
They don't collect any personal information - one of the reasons why it is so popular.
pona-a•41m ago
What histories? Does archive.is take your email, phone, credit card, and passport pic when you want to read anything? The most there is is just an IP address in the server logs, for most users, rotated by their ISP on regular basis, easily obscured with a VPN.

This need to make IP-infringement sound ominous by invoking some ill-defined spy plot is a tired cliche.

phendrenad2•47m ago
Someone should make a site like archive.is that runs the saved page through an LLM to summarize the main points, and perhaps extract a few critical quotes (unfortunately, at the LLM's discretion, but better than nothing). The law is their greatest enemy.
neilv•42m ago
Looks like `archive.is` is currently using reCaptcha. So Google might be able to figure out and tell the FBI who runs it. (If not by data around the registration, then by data around accesses to the site that seem to be by a developer of it, coupled with their cross-site tracking data.)

I've also seen Cloudflare similarly in the loop, and they have similar cross-site tracking data.

Lesson: The same third-party tech surveillance companies to which you sell out all your visitors, can also violate you.

syawin•37m ago
I will be devastated if this site gets taken down. I subscribe to pinboard.in for personal website bookmarking but even that is not 100% guaranteed to successfully cache a copy of the page.
danso•31m ago
The subpoena cites the following statute as authorization: "(1)(A) In any investigation of (i)(I) a Federal health care offense; or (II) a Federal offense involving the sexual exploitation or abuse of children, the Attorney General; or (ii) an offense under section 871 or 879, or a threat against a person protected by the United States Secret Service under paragraph Secret Service determines that the threat constituting the offense or the threat against the person protected is imminent"

One of the agents named in the subpoena appears to have previously worked on child exploitation cases years ago:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-6039/245948/202...

_aavaa_•22m ago
Now that might be an interesting angle.

1. Put up CSAM on your unlisted domain briefly.

2. Archive page and delete site.

3. Send people archive link.

r721•7m ago
I think owner mentioned in a blog post (or on twitter?) this is indeed happening, but I forgot the exact wording to google it.
joshmn•17m ago
As someone who has been the target of an FBI investigation for what was effectively criminal copyright infringement (later arrested and did time in prison), my only takeaway is that this, if anything, just be a civil suit just like so many other similar cases of copyright issues.

In my personal experience, the priorities of the FBI are typically highly politically motivated. The exceptions are if you’re doing something seriously icky, or doing fraud that deceives people.