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Nano Banana Pro

https://blog.google/technology/ai/nano-banana-pro/
506•meetpateltech•4h ago•347 comments

NTSB Preliminary Report – Ups Boeing MD-11F Crash [pdf]

https://www.ntsb.gov/Documents/Prelimiary%20Report%20DCA26MA024.pdf
36•gregsadetsky•48m ago•8 comments

Microsoft makes Zork open-source

https://opensource.microsoft.com/blog/2025/11/20/preserving-code-that-shaped-generations-zork-i-i...
121•tabletcorry•55m ago•38 comments

Go Cryptography State of the Union

https://words.filippo.io/2025-state/
51•ingve•2h ago•25 comments

Launch HN: Poly (YC S22) – Cursor for Files

20•aabhay•1h ago•16 comments

Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

https://blog.google/products/android/quick-share-airdrop/
164•abraham•2h ago•142 comments

The Lions Operating System

https://lionsos.org
19•plunderer•49m ago•2 comments

CoMaps emerges as an Organic Maps fork

https://lwn.net/Articles/1024387/
11•altilunium•1w ago•0 comments

Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

https://joshua.hu/ai-slop-okta-nextjs-0auth-security-vulnerability
80•ramimac•2d ago•14 comments

Freer Monads, More Extensible Effects (2015) [pdf]

https://okmij.org/ftp/Haskell/extensible/more.pdf
45•todsacerdoti•4h ago•2 comments

Ask HN: How are Markov chains so different from tiny LLMs?

41•JPLeRouzic•2d ago•15 comments

Show HN: F32 – An Extremely Small ESP32 Board

https://github.com/PegorK/f32
93•pegor•22h ago•12 comments

Free interactive tool that shows you how PCIe lanes work on motherboards

https://mobomaps.com
49•tagyro•1d ago•8 comments

Interactive World History Atlas Since 3000 BC

http://geacron.com/home-en/
237•not_knuth•9h ago•118 comments

Firefox 147 Will Support the XDG Base Directory Specification

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-147-XDG-Base-Directory
264•bradrn•4h ago•97 comments

IBM Delivers New Quantum Package

https://newsroom.ibm.com/2025-11-12-ibm-delivers-new-quantum-processors,-software,-and-algorithm-...
25•donutloop•1w ago•11 comments

Red Alert 2 in web browser

https://chronodivide.com/
305•nsoonhui•6h ago•95 comments

Theft of 'The Weeping Woman' from the National Gallery of Victoria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft_of_The_Weeping_Woman_from_the_National_Gallery_of_Victoria
40•neom•5d ago•23 comments

Gary Mani Mounfield of the Stone Roses and Primal Scream Dead at 63

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/gary-mani-dead-stone-roses-3...
10•jjgreen•1h ago•2 comments

Two recently found works of J.S. Bach presented in Leipzig [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hXzUGYIL9M#t=15m19s
30•Archelaos•2d ago•14 comments

Building a high performance home

https://dan.bulwinkle.net/blog/building-a-high-performance-home/
40•pilingual•3d ago•6 comments

50th Anniversary of BitBLT

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@fvzappa/115574872559813280
32•todsacerdoti•16h ago•2 comments

What's in a Passenger Name Record (PNR)? (2013)

https://hasbrouck.org/articles/PNR.html
9•rzk•4d ago•1 comments

Android/Linux Dual Boot

https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Dual_Booting/WiP
246•joooscha•3d ago•135 comments

Adversarial Poetry as a Universal Single-Turn Jailbreak Mechanism in LLMs

https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.15304
176•capgre•7h ago•104 comments

'Calvin and Hobbes' at 40

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/18/nx-s1-5564064/calvin-and-hobbes-bill-watterson-40-years-comic-stri...
302•mooreds•7h ago•106 comments

Typesetting the "Begriffsschrift" by Gottlob Frege in Plain TeX [pdf]

https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb36-3/tb114wermuth.pdf
18•perihelions•1w ago•2 comments

Show HN: My hobby OS that runs Minecraft

https://astral-os.org/posts/2025/10/31/astral-minecraft.html
29•avaliosdev•2d ago•4 comments

CUDA Ontology

https://jamesakl.com/posts/cuda-ontology/
220•gugagore•4d ago•37 comments

Europe is scaling back GDPR and relaxing AI laws

https://www.theverge.com/news/823750/european-union-ai-act-gdpr-changes
899•ksec•1d ago•1058 comments
Open in hackernews

Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

https://blog.google/products/android/quick-share-airdrop/
163•abraham•2h ago

Comments

netsharc•1h ago
Ah, makes me think of MacOS system 7 days. MacOS formatted the 3.5" disks with its own filesystem, so if you copied a file onto it, and put the disk in a Windows PC (or DOS?), the PC would go "Huh?".

3 decades later, hooray, now we can share files between Android and iPhone!

fmbb•1h ago
System 7 had built in tools to read and write DOS disks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_File_Exchange
coupdejarnac•1h ago
I distinctly remember how it was the bare minimum. You'd mount a disk or open a plain text file, and there'd be a lot of strange characters that weren't decoded properly.
swiftcoder•1h ago
And that's why we all had to buy a copy of MacLinkPlus!
rconti•59m ago
What does this have to do with System 7?

Operating systems have always used their own filesystems, and it persists to this day.

The only obvious exceptions that come to mind are iso9660 as a standard for CDs, and people generally go out of their way to use FAT/FAT32/whatever on USB keys and SD cards for compatibility with cameras or whatever device they're plugging the card into. But the latter is a choice users actively make to ensure the FS is compatible with the device, rather than a default.

moi2388•1h ago
Eww, green files?

/s

leshenka•1h ago
What would it take to make it work when reception is set to "contacts"?
bilal4hmed•1h ago
not supported right now, but seems they might be able to make it work in the future

https://security.googleblog.com/2025/11/android-quick-share-...

To ensure a seamless experience for both Android and iOS users, Quick Share currently works with AirDrop's "Everyone for 10 minutes" mode. This feature does not use a workaround; the connection is direct and peer-to-peer, meaning your data is never routed through a server, shared content is never logged, and no extra data is shared. As with "Everyone for 10 minutes" mode on any device when you’re sharing between non-contacts, you can ensure you're sharing with the right person by confirming their device name on your screen with them in person.

This implementation using "Everyone for 10 minutes” mode is just the first step in seamless cross-platform sharing, and we welcome the opportunity to work with Apple to enable “Contacts Only” mode in the future.

Aloisius•38m ago
That would probably require cooperation with Apple.

The contact-only mode is authenticated using an Apple-signed device certificate and a signed record of those contact identifiers (as hashed UUIDs) that have been registered for a particular Apple ID associated with the device.

Someone with a Mac can extract those from the keychain (the people behind OpenDrop have a tool to do this), but otherwise you'd need to register a new apple ID, get Apple to register the contact information, register a device of some sort and then do all the key exchanges.

OptionOfT•1h ago
The fact that I get excited about this is actually a good representation much vendor lock there is.

We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out.

rckt•1h ago
And even via IR port.
tormeh•1h ago
Looks like this is an Apple problem that can ve solved by not using Apple products. Every once in a while I look at some Apple device and think it's nifty. Shortly after I'm made aware of some thing or other that they can't do because Apple just doesn't like standards, open source, or just freedom itself.
hhh•1h ago
Like what?
dnissley•1h ago
On iPhones you can't install software except through the app store
nkozyra•1h ago
Well Android is going to be the same way now, too.
StopDisinfo910•1h ago
Certainly not. Google is only mandating signing. That’s already extremely bad but that’s still infinitely better than what Apple offers.
stavros•59m ago
Nah, they rolles that back.
miloignis•53m ago
No, that's not true - the change was that you could only install software from verified developers, not only from the app store, and now they've partially walked that back too and "are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified." ( https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/11/android-de... )
fainpul•1h ago
Like sharing your WLAN. It works great between iPhones, if you know how it works and the preconditions are fulfilled (it's undiscoverable). You can't share with Android devices by showing them a QR code – which I would consider the "usual" way and which is easy to do on Android devices.
cosmic_cheese•1h ago
iOS hotspots are discoverable by non-Apple devices if you have "Allow Others to Join" enabled and have the Personal Hotspot settings panel open on the iOS device. Otherwise, it's hidden to help prevent unintended connection attempts.
rootusrootus•58m ago
I suspect they mean sharing the password for a regular wifi network, not running a hotspot.
stavros•58m ago
It has never worked for me on iOS. Everyone kept saying "I can just share the password" but the prompt never popped up, and there was no way to do anything.
rootusrootus•54m ago
IIRC it only works if you are on their contact list. And I think you need to be in the settings app. Something like that. It's a handy feature but Apple could make it easier to understand, and they could do way better communicating why it isn't working, when it does not work.
bigyabai•1h ago
Bluetooth LDAC would be cool.
excalibur•1h ago
It's not enough to not use Apple products. You either have to convince everyone around you to not use them either, or you have to have compatability.
creaturemachine•1h ago
Ever since the iphone apple has been trying to make you believe files aren't a thing.
Angostura•1h ago
Because Apple realised that phone users are interested in photos, videos, contacts, documents, appointments etc. not files
babypuncher•59m ago
A file system and its files are a very simple abstraction that lets us organize these exact things.

I understand that some people get confused and overwhelmed by a directory structure, but I see that as an education problem, not a UX problem. I was taught all of this in elementary and middle school computer classes in the '90s and early '00s. Having this knowledge early on made me less afraid of my computer, made it feel less like a magical black box, and gave me the confidence to learn more complex topics on my own.

Computers become way more capable when the people using them understand fundamentals like directory structures and command line usage. I don't think either of these things are as difficult to learn as reading, writing, and arithmetic (especially if you already have a base level education in those three things).

If more "everyday people" just had a little bit more knowledge about these things, they would be able to do way more with their computers with less of a reliance on proprietary solutions that funnel them down whatever path makes someone else the most money.

wkat4242•59m ago
iOS isn't just a phone OS.
1-more•26m ago
It is. The other OSes have different names.
iknowstuff•10m ago
Only so they could pretend that iPhones and iPadas are separate platforms under DMA
kakacik•38m ago
One reason I'll never own an apple device, and prefer buying more expensive more open competition. Its just a red line - I own the device by law, if you bend backwards to prevent me from using it via ways that it supports by principle, your product doesn't exist for me.
digdugdirk•31m ago
... This is a joke... Right?
tuetuopay•12m ago
Despite others thinking you’re crazy, I think you are right. I remember the start of the smartphone era where many of my relatives switched to iPhone because "you know where the pictures are going and where to find them". The worst offender was my dad that had a Samsung phone running windows phone 6 (with an actual start menu) where you had to dig through folders to find jpeg files.
rpdillon•1h ago
The file system is the ultimate API, and it gives the user an enormous amount of control to take data, copy it, back it up, transform it, encrypt it, send it places, restore it, etc.

Apple likes to have far more control than that.

sussmannbaka•1h ago
Im not sure if Android has caught up but the iOS file explorer app is excellent.
bigyabai•1h ago
I'm pretty sure that iOS only has a file explorer app because Android supported it.

There was almost a whole decade there where Apple pretended that the feature just didn't need to exist.

kevin_thibedeau•1h ago
To be fair, Android lacked a stock file browser for much of its existence.
stavros•1h ago
The difference is that iOS still doesn't show you the files on your device. It only shows you files in a small area.
wkat4242•57m ago
I love Android but Android does that too. Apps have their internal storage area which you can't access unfortunately (not without root anyway). Nor system files.
stavros•54m ago
When I had an iPhone (a few months ago), there was no way for apps to see files in the filesystem. I wanted to play some music and I had to copy it over to each of the music player apps separately. Is that not the case any more?
sussmannbaka•51m ago
That’s entirely up to the app developer. Of course apps can see files if they’re developed to do that.
TheGoddessInari•5m ago
There's a difference between "can't see 'special' folders" & "can't access anything but the app-specific storage". iOS loves the latter, while Android lets you organize files mostly normally even if doing highly stupid/discouraging things for power users & some app developers making questionable non-default choices.
creaturemachine•27m ago
Remember folks, the iphone was released in 2007, and the files app in 2017. Cut & paste? Apple didn't give ios a clipboard until 2021.
joshstrange•24m ago
> Apple didn't give ios a clipboard until 2021.

Apple added copy/paste in iOS 3.0 in 2009

sussmannbaka•26m ago
Am I supposed to be mad about them not supporting a feature during a time when I didn’t use iOS or is this somehow supposed to impact my current day use of Files app?
rcMgD2BwE72F•1h ago
Try connecting to a WebDAV server on File. It's possible but it's shitty. And try using Syncthing on iOS to keep your files synced across devices without having them uploaded to servers you don't control.

Also, on Android, you can choose any file explorer. You're stuck with Files and it sucks (but it looks nice).

sussmannbaka•31m ago
I don’t have one of those! I do have an SMB share mounted that I’m currently playing music from, though, and it’s working perfectly fine.
stavros•1h ago
Saying "I'm not sure if Android has caught up" when Android is decades ahead of Apple in that regard is some kind of... something.
sussmannbaka•54m ago
Certainly wasn’t ahead with the stock file manager that came with my last Android phone.
stavros•20m ago
What about after you spent the two seconds to install a different file manager?
sussmannbaka•4m ago
Ghost Commander was better but I think I still prefer the iOS Files app.
DANmode•11m ago
Your Samsung or whatever manufacturer bloated trash ≠ Android.
sussmannbaka•7m ago
I used the AOSP app I think? I’d usually agree with you but in this case I really wanted some more bloat because that one was dire :)
BoredPositron•22m ago
Still no smb/webdav/sftp somehow...
DANmode•10m ago
https://sites.google.com/site/ghostcommander1
MangoToupe•15m ago
Ios has an app called "Files".

Now "bluetooth" I could buy (and I do not miss at all).

kotaKat•1h ago
I miss being able to plug my phone (of any kind) in and getting it mounted as a drive letter.

Android misses the mark so much with MTP and iPhone… waves frantically at iTunes.

(At least, in a weird bizarre twist, the iPhone’s Files app is actually really useful for me. I find myself formatting flash drives, copying stuff from network shares, etc, all from my phone and it’s so nifty to have nearly-first-class features there.)

cosmic_cheese•58m ago
MTP is really, really bad. I have a better experience managing files on iOS devices using Linux than I do managing files on Android devices using macOS simply because available MTP implementations are so awful.

I know that read/write conflict concerns are what got USB Mass Storage mode removed from Android, but surely there's some way to resolve that. Like it wouldn't bother me a bit if Android just locked the device and put it in "file transfer mode" when it's mounted on a computer, similar to how iPods used to and how Kobo e-readers do now. It'd be worth the universal robust multi-platform support.

Gys•1h ago
> We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out.

Cross platforms, really? So for example between a Blackberry and a Windows CE phone?

msh•1h ago
I don’t know about blackberry, but it worked fine between feature phone Nokias and windows pdas / phones (before windows phone 7).
marcodiego•1h ago
Most of what are called "dumbphones" allowed easy file sharing over bluetooth. Even the cheapest ones.
kcb•57m ago
Yea, there's a Bluetooth protocol for it called OBEX.
_shantaram•56m ago
> Cross platforms, really? So for example between a Blackberry and a Windows CE phone?

Yes, it was part of the Bluetooth file transfer spec[0] and possible between any two devices that implemented it correctly.

0: https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/file-transfer...

input_sh•26m ago
You could do it even before phones came with Bluetooth via Infrared. Granted, the two phones had to be placed perfectly for the IR sensors to connect, if you moved them the file transfer would break.

Bluetooth was a huge upgrade because you no longer needed to do that.

adrianmonk•42m ago
Yes. When my mom got her first Android phone, she wanted to transfer all her photos from her Motorola Razr flip phone. She said the guy at the AT&T store had a device that would plug in to the data ports of various phones and transfer stuff between them, but it wouldn't do it, so he declared it impossible.

My mom was upset that she would lose her photos, so I puzzled over it for a long time trying to figure out a way. Finally, I realized I was being stupid and missing the obvious: both phones had Bluetooth! I paired them with each other, dug through Razr menus, selected the photos, and did a Bluetooth file send. As expected, the photos went right over. Well, I shouldn't say right over because it was very slow, but it worked just as it should.

randunel•39m ago
Yes, even "dumb" phones could share files with computers back then. Apple users have no idea how much harm their masters have done to society.
rescbr•3m ago
When I was in high school we chatted exchanging notes/txt files between Nokias, LGs, Samsungs and Sony Ericsson feature phones and Windows Mobile (I had an HP one) and Symbian (probably N95) smartphones.

This was just as broadband was getting popular, so those who had it usually downloaded MP3s and then distributed them at school through Bluetooth. I remember one friend using her phone as a bridge to copy files from me using Bluetooth and sending to another friend's phone using IR.

This was across all the classroom, this definitely wasn't restricted to the nerdy clique. We found out that chatting through notes exchange worked pretty well and then it spread like wildfire.

kevincox•34m ago
It's really an embarrassment to our society that it took this long. And still only by seemingly by reverse engineering with no cooperation from Apple.
mcoliver•1h ago
Why only the pixel 10? What piece of hardware is the pixel 9 (one year old) missing?
p0w3n3d•1h ago
Yay if you pay additional fee you will maybe get Bluetooth file sending to PC
evanjrowley•1h ago
The answer to your 2nd question might be Google's custom silicon: https://blog.google/products/pixel/tensor-g5-pixel-10/

The answer to your first question may simply be they want to sell more Pixel 10 phones.

The investment into custom silicon is more likely to pay off when new and exiting features are exclusive to the newer platform.

russianGuy83829•1h ago
previous pixel phones also had custom Google silicon, just with some Samsung IP
arghwhat•9m ago
That hardware is completely unrelated to such a simple feature. Something like AirDrop will only use fairly trivial crypto, which most likely ciphers with full acceleration available but even without it would work fine with plenty of performance headroom.

Neither Apple nor Google is doing anything revolutionary with their silicon for such a standard compute task. It's really mostly minor tuning to get a more optimal part instead of an off-the-shelf chip catering to other uses too, with die area and power consumption "wasted" in your setup.

bilal4hmed•1h ago
It says starting with pixel 10, so I assume itll roll out to the others after some time

https://security.googleblog.com/2025/11/android-quick-share-...

Maxious•1h ago
From the linked security report in that post https://www.netspi.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/google-fea... it seems like they implemented something similar to https://github.com/seemoo-lab/opendrop (which was also used to test interoperablity

Also `we welcome the opportunity to work with Apple to enable “Contacts Only” mode in the future` doesn't make it sound like Apple actually helped implement this

input_sh•1h ago
That's just how they roll out features these days, in about 6 months it'll be on every Pixel and in about a year or so on every Android.
dktp•1h ago
I think specifically latest Pixels are often Google's beta testers. The enthusiasts owning them are happy to get features first and won't complain too much if it's rough around the edges. The phone is also not big enough revenue driver for them to be afraid that too many people would abandon it due to buggy new features

Then I assume they'll roll it out further

For better or worse, I do own Pixel 10

bigyabai•1h ago
Duopoly who?
prmoustache•1h ago
Aren't most people just sending files over whatsapp/signal/whatever instant messaging apps they use?
rahimnathwani•1h ago
Large files.
swiftcoder•1h ago
or images, which WhatsApp insists on recompressing, which tends to really impact the quality
Almondsetat•51m ago
Whatsapp doesn't insist anything. You just send the photos as files
add-sub-mul-div•1h ago
That's my first thought too, as an Android user. But Apple culture is about using what's built in, the path of least resistance, and Android/Windows are more for tinkerers who seek out their favorite solutions from a wide variety of third party options.
Angostura•1h ago
… and sharing files locally at high speed when you aren’t on a network
vscode-rest•1h ago
AirDrop is cool because it works offline with relatively high bandwidth using local RF. If you want to wait for you and the target to transmit all the data to/from some server 1000 miles away (using up your precious bandwidth quota along the way) that’s always been an option.
skunkworker•1h ago
I've used it multiple times while hiking and outside normal cell phone tower range. Need to transfer 500mb of images and videos? easy.
rconti•1h ago
I just airdropped 130 photos from my phone to my coach and I was sure it would take forever. The preparing stage on my phone took maybe 10 seconds, and the actual transfer took what looked like 2 seconds. I couldn't believe it.
emaro•57m ago
Another use case is to share pictures with people you just met / don't know without giving them your phone number.
rcMgD2BwE72F•59m ago
Of course, only because Apple and Google did everything in their power to prevent people sending files directly between devices. When you have a duopoly that splits the population in two parts and they can't send files between them, of course users will rely on messaging apps to share stuff.

Short story: I did a long trip across two continent with my wife. Me with an Android devices, her on iOS. We did backup our photos in our own private cloud but guess how we had to quick exchange photos while in the wild (no wifi and sometimes no network)? We couldn't. Because Google and Apple did everything so we couldn't.

Google wants to your data and fought for the cloud. Apple don't want Android users to easily partake in some data exchange with iOS users (you gotta buy your ticket to their jail). So sad you don't realize how backward that is.

pmontra•56m ago
Yes, because it's almost the only cross-platform way to do it. It used to be email, then pictures become almost too big to fit into attachments (and bandwidth, think about the days of 3G) and messages have less friction anyway.
olly994•1h ago
Just use Wormhole for file transfer. Small and easy to use. I have put on all my computers, laptops and phones.
__jonas•1h ago
100% of the time when I want to share a file from my phone to another phone, the other phone is not owned by me and I can’t just install some software on it
polishdude20•1h ago
Wormhole can be run in the browser easily.
RenThraysk•14m ago
Yep https://webwormhole.com/

Just needs a WebRTC capable browser.

averysmallbird•1h ago
What are the chances that this is made possible because of the DMA?
rckt•1h ago
At the same time as we have companies trying to push their humanoid robots with AI and all, we finally have devices able to communicate with each other again. Vendor locking is such a stupid thing.
somanyphotons•1h ago
Am I right to assume that they simply implemented AirDrop without discussing with Apple?
jhogervorst•1h ago
I was wondering the same. Looking at the statements in the posts, I think so?
do_not_redeem•1h ago
Reading between the lines, it seems like Google is playing a bit of chess here. Reminds me of the Beeper Mini stunt, except this time by a trillion-dollar company they can't just sweep under the rug.

> we welcome the opportunity to work with Apple to enable “Contacts Only” mode in the future.

> I applaud the effort to open more secure information sharing between platforms and encourage Google and Apple to work together more on this.

Your move, Apple.

GeekyBear•39m ago
I am reminded of Microsoft implementing a YouTube app for Windows Phone, and Google repeatedly blocking it.
somanyphotons•35m ago
I think Apple will be ok with this, it clearly shows Android being less capable/compatible than other iPhones, a bit like blue/green bubbles
rescbr•14m ago
I remember reading somewhere Apple had/has to make AirDrop interoperable due to EU's DMA.
raw_anon_1111•6m ago
Well since absolutely no one buys Pixeld to a first approximation and mostly in the US. Looking at different sites it’s from 3-6% marketshare.

I doubt this was done for the DMA.

trollbridge•12m ago
And if Google does this as well as the RCS rollout, I can look forward to attempts to use AirDrop to send me viruses and other spammy junk.
reactormonk•1h ago
Shoutout to https://localsend.org/ - it can even open a local webserver if needed.
aagha•57m ago
I prefer https://pairdrop.net/ ; nicer interface
85392_school•33m ago
To continue the thread, my favorite is https://drop.lol
serial_dev•16m ago
I’m using FilePizza when I need it, saw it on HN recently. All this AI magic allegedly taking our jobs, but we still can’t transfer files from one device to another, or print a document reliably.

https://file.pizza/

doublerabbit•5m ago
> we still can’t transfer files from one device to another,

Nor send text message with images.

worldsavior•35m ago
It's slow as suffering in hell.
hshdhdhj4444•1h ago
Of course, AirDrop is absolutely awful.

Is the Android equivalent any better?

sahaskatta•13m ago
Curious, why do you think AirDrop is so bad?

As for Android, it works fine, but I’ve probably used that feature only once in the past ten years. I haven't seen others use it either.

jddecker•12m ago
One thing I like about Android Quick Send is that you can generate a QR code, that the other person scans, and it'll send the file to them. I use it so rarely, and most people I know are the same, so usually it's just turned off and I find a lot of other Android users are the same.
TheAceOfHearts•1h ago
Long overdue, there should really be an open standard for wireless sharing of files. Windows? macOS? Linux? Android? iOS? Switch2? PS5? Doesn't matter, just open the wireless file transfer window and it should just work. Having to install third-party apps for such basic functionality is ridiculous.

If we had a functional government every major tech CEO would get called by congress, grilled about this bullshit, and told to sort it out unless they want to get some bullshit legislation shoved down their throat.

nicolaslem•38m ago
I am with you. How is it that in the past we got major successes like TCP/IP, 802.3, HTTP and WiFi but somehow in the past decade big tech decided that was too much collaboration and it would be better for everyone to stop doing that?
alistairSH•1h ago
Is the benefit transferring "local" via BT instead of across the internet as a text message attachment? Because I do the latter plenty, but pretty much never AirDrop anything to anybody, even if they're sitting next to me.
t-writescode•1h ago
I AirDrop files between my different Apple devices pretty regularly.. I guess everyone has their own system for doing things.
jampa•59m ago
I used them. Compression is an issue in other protocols (sending via WhatsApp, for example). Another benefit is that photos sent by Airdrop get automatically backed up. It also works well in areas with poor internet connectivity. For example, some beaches have weak cellphone signals due to their surroundings, so when meeting friends, we generally use Airdrop.
cosmic_cheese•53m ago
AirDrop uses P2P wifi for the actual transfer which can make it significantly faster than transferring through the internet, which makes a big difference for photos, videos, and other large files. It also works out in the middle of a forest where there are no wireless connections as well as it works in the middle of NYC.
bochoh•1h ago
It seems that this is directional, flowing from Android to Apple but not necessarily back (e.g., me airdropping a photo to my parent who uses Android). I'd love for this to work in the other direction as well.
somehnguy•1h ago
The demo shows it working both ways, so you're in luck
evanreichard•1h ago
The video shows both directions.
emaro•59m ago
There's a gif on the blog showing file sharing in both directions. Apparently "Contacts only" sharing doesn't work yet, as mentioned in another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45995586
marcodiego•1h ago
Around 2008 I saw two girls, not too versed in technology, share a mp3 song over bluetooth. At the time I thought that if technology finally arrived at the point where "normal people" could be able to do things that required lots of technical knowledge just a few years ago then we were very close to a future where technology could be a giant enabler of powers to everyone.

I am really ashamed by how wrong I was and how WE allowed things to became so artificially limited.

MiddleEndian•37m ago
In high school (2003-2007) it was super easy for any of my friends and I (varying technical levels) to send arbitrarily large files to each other with AOL Instant Messenger's Direct Connect. Honestly not even sure how a non-technical person would do that nowadays.
DANmode•6m ago
They wouldn’t.

This is intentional.

mixmastamyk•26m ago
You might enjoy this new initiative: https://aol.codeberg.page/eci/
theoldgreybeard•59m ago
Nice.

I can also recommend LocalSend.

lazyeye•58m ago
The Localsend app is the way

https://localsend.org/

marcodiego•57m ago
If you're using android, you can easily share files over local network (or using your phone as hotspot) with this app: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.MarcosDiez.shareviahttp/

If you're not close, telegram fork allow easy sharing of files too.

hackernewds•7m ago
but I have to download and app which is the same as downloading Google drive
adenta•57m ago
Now we just need universal clipboard between Android and OSX
emaro•56m ago
Fucking finally. I just really hope is also lands in AOSP and will be available on all Android phones in the future.
dlcarrier•36m ago
Why is this part of the OS?
flexagoon•29m ago
Because it can't be implemented without low level hardware access. But also, it seems like it's a part of GMS, not of the OS itself.
dlcarrier•4m ago
Low level hardware access for opening a file and a network port? Those are some of the first lessons in any programming tutorial. If they aren't available, what is the OS even doing?

Also, for all intents and purposes, GMS is part of the Android OS, but Google had to branch it off, to keep it closed source.

Aman_Kalwar•17m ago
Finally! Interoperability like this should’ve existed years ago. Curious how they’re handling privacy & bandwidth
kgwxd•15m ago
Until they decide we can't again.
happosai•6m ago
https://xkcd.com/949/

...still relevant

layer8•4m ago
This is based on Wi-Fi Aware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Alliance#Wi-Fi_Aware

Some background: https://www.ditto.com/blog/cross-platform-p2p-wi-fi-how-the-...