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I taught my neighbor to keep the volume down

https://idiallo.com/blog/teaching-my-neighbor-to-keep-the-volume-down
244•firefoxd•2h ago

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umvi•1h ago
Seems like a good reason you should need to "pair" the RF remote to the device, similar to Bluetooth. Otherwise a bad actor in an apartment complex could get a "universal" RF remote and randomly try stuff until they can control your devices.
kelseyfrog•1h ago
Why? It sounds like the system is working as unintended.
4b11b4•1h ago
It's a feature not a bug
bentcorner•19m ago
Honestly I could see arguments going both ways. Pairing prevents unauthorized access, but at the same time, pairing means you need to be able to pair without having a paired device on-hand.

For a passive read-only device (like most satellite/cable receivers 20 years ago), it was probably more important to allow customers to easily replace their lost remotes than it was to prevent pranksters (who could often be dissuaded by more physical means).

zh3•1h ago
In a similar vein, many years ago I helped someone with a similar problem with a neighbour who had the volume too loud. As the aerial cable was accessible, I suggested he stick a pin through the neighbour's cable whenever the volume got too loud, and pull it out when the volume went down.

Sure enough, after a while the neighbour learnt their TV only worked if they kept the volume down in the evening.

binaryturtle•1h ago
I wish there was an easy solution like this for smoking "neighbours". Some sort of detection device that instantly closes my windows automatically and then "explodes" a nasty "stinking bomb" outside (e.g. automatic opening of a container with butyric acid or similar), so it smells worse than their smoke. Eventually their brains would connect smoking with nasty stinking and stop doing it.

But I wouldn't know where to start. :-\

1e1a•1h ago
What about a really loud fire alarm outside your house, that goes off whenever it detects even a slight amount of smoke?
herf•18m ago
"Noftsker also shared the hacker aversion to cigarette smoke, and would sometimes express his displeasure by shooting a jet of pure oxygen from a canister he kept for that purpose; the astonished smoker would find his or her cigarette bursting into a fierce orange blur."

- Hackers, Steven Levy, 1984

nkrisc•15m ago
People who smoke on the balconies of multi-unit buildings are awful people. It’d be a beautiful day but I can’t keep my windows open because there’s always somebody smoking to make my unit smell disgusting if I just want to enjoy a cool breeze going through.

Thank goodness smoking is becoming rarer here and is no banned pretty much everywhere indoors and near entrances.

I don’t mind if people have a vice (I’ve got mine) but keep me out of it.

MomsAVoxell•1h ago
I have a TV-Be-Gone device, which is designed to disable TV’s in a certain radius. It has been an absolutely wonderful little accessory during business trips .. someone watching something obnoxious at the hotel bar? TV-Be-Gone!

A Flipper Zero would be the modern equivalent, I suppose. I like the idea of being able to turn off devices in a certain radius - but I don’t like the idea of everyone having one. Having ultimate power over the wireless noise in my immediate vicinity - awesome .. but seeing someone empty their pockets at the airport and a Flipper Zero in the inspection box - not so fun.

It’s going to be a wild and woolly future, the more these kinds of shenanigans become relevant.

OutOfHere•1h ago
TV-Be-Gone can work in public places, but it's is not going to work through walls for neighbors.
Liftyee•1h ago
Indeed. It works with infrared light, the same way most TV remotes do.
mbirth•8m ago
Unless you manage to aim a strong IR blaster at their window/the ceiling behind it.
zh3•1h ago
It's pretty easy to do, a Pi (of any kind) and an IR LED that sends the power button codes for the common TV brands will do it (since it's often a toggle, it'll also turn TV's on if they are off).

RF remotes are harder to hack together but similar principle. Whether IR or RF, the codes are common across all devices of the same model/protocol.

rolph•1h ago
TV-B-Gone Kit:

https://github.com/adafruit/TV-B-Gone-kit

scoperesolution•1h ago
>When I moved to a new apartment with my family

Well, there's your problem right there. I stopped reading after that.

unglaublich•1h ago
My, that sums up apartment living quite well. I'm all for densifying popular urban areas, but man, add some fucking sound isolation cheap landlords.
ajb•46m ago
Right, so the problem here, apart from people not giving a shit, is that no-one has designed a 'spirit level for soundproofing' - a tool that can be used during the job by the builder and by the supervisor to check on it. What you have is equipment that can be used after "second fix", at which point noone wants to rip the plaster off to fix anything, so it becomes a box ticking exercise.

There are two kinds of issue: a solid transmission path that shouldn't exist ('bridge'), and a gap or void that shouldn't exist. What we need is something like a time domain reflectometer but for sound conduction, so you can detect gaps and bridges after screwing on the drywall but before skimming over it, and before the doors have been put in - ie, while there's still a massive audio path a few meters away. Ideally, even if the next panel hasn't been screwed on. If you had that, then if it detects something then all you have to do is unscrew a panel to fix it, which is something that people might actually do.

Anyone who has enough audio skills, feel free to build this!

phantom784•36m ago
Noise from neighbors is the biggest thing that drove me to move to a single-family home.
udkl•35m ago
I don't know why we don't build with concrete like the rest of the world ... that should give us a higher noise isolation than wood
pwg•17m ago
Concrete is more expensive to build with than wood, and many "apartment buildings" are built with a target towards "minimum possible build cost".
toast0•1m ago
Majority construction anywhere is whatever can be built with the least cost.

In the US and Canada timber framing for buildings under about 6 feet is least cost. Other places without a lot of timber availability tend to build with other things.

pwg•22m ago
The landlord is often not the same as the developer or construction company, and sound isolation works best when built in while the building is being constructed. Attempting to retrofit later is often less than satisfactory. So it is often not the landlord's fault, it was the developer or construction company that cut corners and used the thinnest, least sound isolating materials they could to keep their costs down.
smeej•1h ago
The HTC One smartphone came with a programmable IR port. All you had to do was determine the TV brand (easy if you can see it), then point the top of the phone at the TV pushing the "power" button until it went off. Then you knew you had the right configuration.

I mostly used it for turning volume down in waiting rooms or at bars, but a bar was also where I figured out most of their TVs tend to be set to the same control because they had a few with their sensors in a line where I was sitting and they all went off together while I was programming it.

One of the phone features I miss most, after the 3.5mm jack. Nobody needs to hear loud daytime TV in a waiting room.

yurishimo•54m ago
I would be shocked if this doesn’t exist as a small dongle you could plug into your phone directly or operate wirelessly. If you’re someone who already has a few pieces of EDC, maybe it could be stashed on a keychain.
mike50•28m ago
They do sell ir dongles for android but the reviews on amazon don't look great.
bryanlarsen•7m ago
Independent dongle, you don't need to plug it into your phone: https://www.tvbgone.com/
mfkp•47m ago
Just got a new OnePlus 15 last month and it has an IR blaster built in. Works great
frumplestlatz•24m ago
In the 90s, my HP-48G graphing calculator had the same, and someone wrote a free universal remote control app for it.

I had way too much fun screwing with the TVs at school.

tetris11•24m ago
N900 had one too, along with an FM transmitter, just in case you wanted to override whatever generic radio station was playing at full volume in the coffee shop
sombragris•8m ago
My current phone is a (Xiaomi) POCO M4 Pro. It has both an IR port and a 3.5mm jack. It's a great device, although it doesn't support 5G.

Sometimes, when the remote is too far, I control my TV with it.

jofla_net•1h ago
I had a very similar story related to this as well.

For the longest time I always assumed RF remotes were the ancient ones, as growing up, we had an old large Magnavox console tv, with just such a remote. As time progressed we went to IR, which was, as I'll explain below, a welcome relief!

The tv was positioned in a basement room, just under my bedroom. Every few months I would be rustled from my sleep, at 4AM, to come downstairs to the tv turned on, blaring full volume and on channel 99 (static). This continued for a while until I realized that my father, who is HAM operator, and an early riser, would somehow be injecting into the remote sensor on certain frequencies occasionally. Needless to say it was thusly unplugged afterwards!

Joel_Mckay•47m ago
RF chokes on the cables are sometimes necessary. The clip-on ones work well, and are cheap. Part of being a Ham is mitigating EMI your broadcasting may cause.

As a side note, intentionally jamming or interfering with other peoples signals can carry up to a $1m fine and several years in prison. =3

helsinkiandrew•59m ago
That sounds like a great microcontroller/decibel meter project, something that could run 24 hours a day unattended.
elcapitan•58m ago
Thank you for realizing my ultimate power fantasy.
wewewedxfgdf•57m ago
When remote controls first became a thing for televisions and VHS machines there was great fun to be had confusing family members, who were used to reaching for the TV and turning the channel selector or twisting the volume up and down.
kingo55•57m ago
Funnily enough about 10 years ago, I had noisy neighbours playing music late at night and after some fruitless attempts at politely asking them to turn the sound down, I found their wifi and ran a 'deauth attack'. Effectively flooding their wifi with packets disconnecting devices. Followed by a, "fuck!"

Safe to say we got peaceful nights sleep.

bschwindHN•52m ago
That reminds me of my Xbox One. I could reliably turn it on by starting some heavy wifi traffic on my phone, typically by opening a YouTube video. The console lets you turn it on with the wireless controller, so I assume the wifi traffic was somehow recreating that signal.

I never solved it though, I moved and never really set up the Xbox again.

jakedata•48m ago
There was a Windows 2000 bug that would allow the computer to be crashed via a malformed IrDA packet. Of course someone crafted a Palm Pilot app to zonk all the vulnerable PCs in the vicinity. It worked on servers as well. Endless fun for a little while.
dadrock•42m ago
I bet it was an awesome shower when OP came up with this story. Nice and hot.
frogpelt•11m ago
I know you’re downvoted but every time I read a story like this I get the feeling it’s mostly fiction.
miduil•40m ago
What a story. Be friendly to your neighbors, otherwise they might turn off your TV!

When I was living in Berlin, the entire apartment complex had a WhatsApp group and people would (of course it's Berlin) party a lot. People would ask each other to turn down the volume, which worked for the most part - at least for severe partying. Best messages were like "you've been partying all night, it's 2pm, I need some silence to have a meeting.

Back then I was dreaming of some shared application, people could put on their phone or laptop and then the collective could decide or at least hint through that software that the volume was up too high.

shibel•34m ago
Reminds of a neighbor I had back when I was renting in a big city. He didn’t seem to understand what’s wrong with keeping his TV on for very long periods broadcasting the sleaziest (at least at the time) reality show on full volume.

I tried talking to him multiple times to no avail. He’d basically say “yeah I’ll pay attention no problem” but nothing changed for weeks.

Coincidentally at that time I was working morning shifts at a radio station. Those start really early so you gotta wake up at around 4am.

I decided one day to change my alarm (triggered on my Sony Vaio) from the peaceful iPhone-like tunes to System of a Down’s “Chop Suey”. I also decided to forget it on, on repeat, full volume, while leaving the apartment.

I don’t think 3 days passed before he knocked loudly at my door, moaning and complaining.

I told him: “you gotta understand, your TV was so loud I couldn’t sleep for nights on end, the old tune wouldn’t wake me up anymore. I had to change it. I’m so tired that I even forget to turn it off.

But yeah, I’ll try to pay attention to it”

joncp•28m ago
I’d love to find a way to do something similar with neighboring dogs.
kgwxd•19m ago
loud thunder sound using a big sub woofer?
Biganon•11m ago
Ultrasound whistle?

Sounds a bit cruel though, I dunno how it makes them feel

tibbydudeza•27m ago
Awesome ;).
moltar•21m ago
Haha I did something similar to my teebage neighbour and his Bluetooth boombox that he’d blast at midnight when his parents were away. I’d connect to his device and disconnect immediately. He also learned to turn it down after that. That was our communication channel. Every time it was too loud I’d connect and disconnect. Immediately after he’d reduce the volume to something reasonable.
tantalor•11m ago
> We had interference somehow. Our remotes were set up to operate at the same frequency. Each remote controlled both devices.

That's not "interference" in the technical sense.

Interference actually causes signal degradation, distortion, or loss.

This is the system "working as expected" technically. It was just set up wrong.

submeta•10m ago
Many of us have an aging neighbor whose hearing gradually worsens. The TV volume creeps up over time.

A simple, thoughtful fix is to gift them a wireless TV speaker designed for this exact problem.

The Sony SRS-LSR200 sits close to the listener, so dialogue is clear without blasting the TV for everyone else. It lets them enjoy their shows again without turning the volume knob into a neighborhood event.

almostlikemagic•9m ago
this just made my day, thank you.
readthenotes1•8m ago
If you can hear your neighbor exclaim not too loudly, the problem is not with the neighbor but with the lack of sound isolation in the building.

Of course, that is not the landlord's problem: (

redbell•5m ago
This reminds me of this guy [1]

  My neighbor is smoking on the balcony, and smoke goes to my home with little kids. I talked with him several times, didn't help. It's his territory, so not much I can do, besides closing the doors. But at least i can use this fake smoke detector with VERY ANNOYING random buzzer. It starts buzzing when i connect to it my iPhone via BLE. Makes it not as relaxing to smoke on the balcony as it planned to be for him. I'm going to train this mofo with reinforcement learning like a fkn Pavlov Dog.
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1. https://old.reddit.com/r/SideProject/comments/1ojv6x4/smokin...

godsinhisheaven•3m ago
Remimds me of the thumper story, love it when people set their neigbbors straight

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