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Mystery donor gives Japanese city $3.6M in gold bars to fix water system

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ew5jlqz87o
66•tartoran•2h ago

Comments

schiffern•1h ago
I realize there's near zero probability, but the mention of mysterious Japanese gold made my mind immediately go to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamashita%27s_gold

userbinator•1h ago
My mind went to the founder of Bitcoin.
argee•1h ago
The actual founder of Bitcoin cannot touch their money without causing a lot of panic in the market. I believe Coinbase's 2021 S-1 prospectus explicitly listed "the identification of Satoshi Nakamoto... or the transfer of Satoshi’s Bitcoins" as a business risk factor.
bparsons•1h ago
Not sure why the NSA would pay for a Japanese water system.
Hamuko•1h ago
To keep up the façade.
idontwantthis•55m ago
I didn’t know the gold in cryptomomicon was inspired by a real thing!
throwaway5752•1h ago
That is a bad idea. Hydrocarbon polymers like PEX, ferrous alloys, and concrete would be much more practical.
bombcar•1h ago
I think people are missing the joke, but gold sewer pipes is amusing to consider.
throw_gold•1h ago
Well played.
moi2388•48m ago
In fairness, after hundreds of years of people trying to turn lead into gold, this might be one of the more practical attempts.
serf•44m ago
45lbs of gold would get you a ten foot-ish 1 in ID plumbing pipe.

... and we already have a problem with copper theft.

Animats•1h ago
And that's Osaka. Osaka's population peaked around 2017.[1] The only major city in Japan not on a downtrend is Yokohama, which is in the Greater Tokyo area.

Keeping up all the infrastructure as the population declines is tough. That's one of the challenges of this century for the developed world.

[1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/japan/osaka

userbinator•1h ago
More than 20% of Japan's water pipes have passed their legal service life of 40 years, according to local media

That is rather low. The US still has some wooden(!) water pipes in use, as well as other plumbing installed in the late 19th/early 20th century.

skirge•1h ago
wood is better than lead
dcrazy•1h ago
This is the reason that installing a 2-mile bus lane on Van Ness Avenue in San Francisco took several years. They took advantage of the opportunity to replace the hollowed out logs that had served as one of the city’s most critical water mains since the 1906 quake.
RupertSalt•34m ago
When the sections are stored above ground, they can make for some really gnarly skate parks. You've heard of the half-pipe, now see the attempts at full-pipe!
sharkjacobs•33m ago
Urban trees in Montreal (and presumably other cities) only survive through the summer because of the water they get from leaky pipes.

> Maple trees drink about 50 litres of water every day, and it seems some of their hydration is coming from Montreal’s crumbling infrastructure.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/montreals-leaky-pipe...

N19PEDL2•14m ago
Meanwhile, in Europe: https://romanempiretimes.com/aqua-virgo-a-2000-year-roman-aq...
worthless-trash•52m ago
I mean, the mitsubishi logo, makes it pretty obvious who the donor is.

Edit: i mean, we can't possibly figure out who donated, thank you kind donor.

jogu•45m ago
Mitsubishi Group has a lot of companies, including a bank, so no the logo doesn't say anything about who donated it.
arjie•46m ago
It is an outrageously cool thing to give money for an infrastructure project. They must have some faith that the government can deliver on something with $3.5 million.

That would be two public toilets in SF, one toilet of which actually cost $300k in paperwork and so on despite two local businessmen signing up to have the work done.

shswkna•35m ago
I do not understand the downvotes.

It is a rational response to bureaucratic excesses worldwide in public procurement.

It is a plea to more common sense, to more down to earth thinking and decisive action in the public sphere.

This is not a call to ignore processes. But it is a call for civil servants to respect that they are exactly that. In service, and their ambition should be to do it well and efficiently.

The downvotes are an expression of those that think civil servants should be protected from such sentiment.

vasco•29m ago
You went from not understanding them to knowing exactly what they were an expression of pretty quickly!
zaptheimpaler•9m ago
Here is some of what happened during COVID, according to Patrick McKenzie (patio11) [1] :

----

I want to both be polite about the fact and be honest about it. We, the United States of America, through our elected representatives and through civil servants who represent our interests, committed monstrous crimes in 2021, which are against the laws, traditions, and constitution of the United States of America, including aggressively redlining the provision of life-saving medical care in a way which was designed to cause racially discriminatory outcomes with the provision of medical care.

Just throwing that out there as a statement. With that caveat, one of the things that we spent tens of millions of dollars on was that we want your consultancy to write a website which will enforce residency restrictions. A residency restriction is essentially, when we are under a supply constraint, there must be some method to decide which people get it, and some people don’t. We have, in our infinite wisdom as the government, decided that equity, equity, equity is one primary thing that we are focusing on. A thing that we think would be contrary to equity is allowing anyone who shows up at the clinic to receive the life-saving medication.

The thing that we are specifically worried about is relatively well-resourced people from advantaged demographics will use their superior access to transportation and information to travel to clinics which have the vaccine available and take that instead of that vaccine being used by someone in the local community who we intend the vaccine to go to. Therefore, to get an appointment to go to the vaccine, you will need to go to the county’s website, which is delivered by Accenture or similar, and prove to the website that you reside within one of the zip codes that we have allocated for those vaccine doses. Only then will you get the ticket, virtual or otherwise, which allows you to go to the pharmacy and get the vaccine. We spent tens of millions of dollars on that, targeting essentially a four-month window where we were acutely supply constrained. But we did not turn off residency restrictions on the websites after that four month window because we physically had no way to do that because that was not in the bid documents in some cases. ...

----

Just one of the many ways that rigid institutions that behave more like stupid robots than things capable of dynamic decision-making cause immense harm. This is not a rant against equity btw, only against insanity.

[1] https://alethios.substack.com/p/patrick-mckenzie-vaccinateca

foxyv•22m ago
It wasn't even really that big either. 50 square feet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noe_Valley_public_toilet

rester324•21m ago
"would put it to good use - including tackling the deterioration of water pipes"

There is your faith in action. Zero concrete promise, no accountability.

21asdffdsa12•19m ago
* In the culture that also produced this comment. This is not a universal problem, just a societies unable to produce a high trust environment problem.
rester324•12m ago
You really have zero idea what you're talking about. You can start reading about Prudential first. Then all the other scandals.

This donation has nothing to do with high trust, more with the fact that ordinary japanese people have very low mental capacity so they can't even understand when the ruling class ripping them off and they live worse off for this reason. See the current scapegoating of foreigners for every little thing recently.

They simply can't understand neither the consequences of their own actions nor those of the public servants' and the political/economic ruling class.

zaptheimpaler•13m ago
They likely wouldn’t even accept the money because it’s in gold bars, and they wouldn’t be able to prove its source.
anonymous344•40m ago
25 gold bars ..20 gold bars

100 yens we received

would be un any other country, but not japan

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