And as soon as you start showing these things to people they do start to care and ask how. So the fact that the mainstream is ignorant and doesn't care enough yet doesn't matter because it's very likely a much larger segment of users will care when the tech evangelists they trust stop using IOS and Google Android. That's how these things started and that's how they could very well play out in this scenario as well.

> We're collaborating on future devices

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116159602850585685

Samsung had something as ambitious years ago, but it went nowhere https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-promised-make-old-pho...

Stay tuned

So likely no existing Motorola phones are good enough and only new ones, developed in collaboration with GrapheneOS developers, will be suitable.

[0] https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/27068-grapheneos-security-p...

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

Is it possible that it's backdoored, have a secret opcode / management engine? Probably, but that goes to everyone, as it's not practical to analyze what's in the chip (unless you're decapping them and all)

I don't know what secure environments you're talking about, if it's an airgapped system then you should be secure even when what's inside 'tries to get out'.

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47202808

I'm sure that Google will do something like that as soon as it faced the US's carrot and stick they signed-up for.