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How is Groq raising more money?

https://www.zach.be/p/how-the-hell-is-groq-raising-more
28•hasheddan•2h ago

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ai_fry_ur_brain•55m ago
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dang•48m ago
Please don't post shallow-indignant comments. The article raises an interesting question. If the discussion terminates in an angry cliché before it even gets started, that's a boring outcome.
ai_fry_ur_brain•39m ago
Well dang, that's sort of my goal. I think the masses should be angry and should be highly polarized (regardless if its cliche) against the groups of people investing billions in chat bots while millions can't afford food and medicine.
appplication•31m ago
I’ll also agree with you, this is not a topic that needs nuance, it’s as straightforward as fuck the billionaire class.

If you want nuance, the obvious answer to this is that the rules that apply at our level do not apply to them. Raising money is an inevitability and does not require any fundamental basis other than the name behind it.

pezezin•46m ago
You might get downvoted to oblivion, but you are completely right.
ViscountPenguin•29m ago
I don't really get the value proposition of groq as a user, the performance is really poor for the token price. Data centres on the other hand are becoming a commodity, and I don't see any reason a priori to invest in groq specifically for something like that.
bluegatty•15m ago
Groq is considerably faster and better at inference, they have a totally superior product to Nvidia for inference based tasks, which will be the dominant concern in the future.

Plausibly, take all the Nvidia hype and multiply that by a factor and that's what 'Groq' could be worth.

And there is no real commodification - there's Nvidia, Cerebras, Groq ... not many otheres.

fontain•23m ago
I’m confused by the confusion. Groq licensed their technology (sold part of their business) to Nvidia for a large amount of money and distributed the spoils to their investors. Seems quite normal? But then the Axios article says…

“Existing shareholders will receive the remaining cash distributions and then have the opportunity to invest into a new company”

New company? But Groq still exists and continued to exist.

“The bottom line: Don't be surprised if this becomes a new transaction template in the AI private markets.”

A transaction template? I don’t follow what was novel about this situation. The Meta not-acquisition-acquisition of Scale seems more novel.

I guess I feel like Zach’s confusion is because of the way Axios has presented what is happening to Groq. Looking at why actually happened with Groq, it seems like Axios are reporting it weird.

Unless Groq really is starting a new company in which case I am equally as confused.

edit: when announced last year it was announced as an asset acquisition https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/24/nvidia-buying-ai-chip-startu...

bluegatty•14m ago
There's nothing normal at all about the Nvidia Groq deal, it's hard to read in terms of what it means. A straight licensing deal would have been easier to ingest.
fontain•11m ago
I could be completely off the mark but I thought the non-exclusive license was necessary because Groq’s datacenter business uses the technology already? Nvidia acquired the assets but Groq needed to retain rights to use the technology for their own product.
wmf•4m ago
They could have sold the IP then licensed it back. The nonexclusive part was purely a fig leaf to dodge antitrust.
zachbee•12m ago
The interesting thing here isn't "how, logistically, is the Groq corporate entity able to raise more money?". That's straightforward.

Rather, the interesting thing and the topic of most of the article is "how, after Nvidia hired most of Groq's team and licensed all their IP, did Groq manage to convince investors to invest in the remaining corporate entity?"

fontain•6m ago
I thought you wrote the convincing explanation:

“One could argue that Groq’s datacenters alone could make them worth billions of dollars.”

Groq is a successful datacenter business with a high-revenue cloud product. That’s a compelling investment in its own right, right?

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