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How the U.S. Engineered Its Sovereignty

https://spectrum.ieee.org/us-engineered-sovereignty
39•rbanffy•2h ago

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shapefrog•1h ago
Kinda glossed over the whole IP theft industrial espionage thing.

Not at all ironic given the shrieking about China.

mc32•50m ago
Back then there weren’t as many conventions and treaties governing IP, as one might imagine —which is why the British attempted export controls!
shapefrog•44m ago
I guess the same goes for why the Americans attempt export controls in 2026
pocksuppet•43m ago
Every successful country has done it. First they make liberal use of others' IP then when they are generating IP themselves they try hard to protect it.

Not limited to IP, they also do this with real property when they can.

Not limited to property, they do this with every single regulation. Think about Europe and chlorinated chicken.

hyko•1h ago
"In 1839 [...] the United States had already defeated Britain’s navy in two wars"

This statement is wrong and trivially falsifiable. Perhaps the author meant that the U.S. had by that point won some naval battles against the British?

fusslo•18m ago
yeah, it's worded strangely; as if both conflicts were exclusively/divisively maritime.

Which is a shame because the role of the Colonial Navy and later the U.S. Navy in the war of independence and later in the War of 1812 is actually fascinating and often overlooked

John Paul Jones, for example had an amazing (as in interesting, not 'goodly') life ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Jones )

And the Battle of Lake Erie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_Erie

snowpid•1h ago
Some nationalistic articles are just cringe.
homeonthemtn•54m ago
This article is cherry picked nonsense.
fusslo•36m ago
It's a 4 minute read.
pasquinelli•8m ago
is that meant as a response?
kevin_thibedeau•33m ago
In 1939 the US had an outdated navy, army, and air corps. European instability is the direct cause of the change in US military and economic dominance.
pjmlp•9m ago
It helped that US soil was barely touched during both WW.
MSkill1•25m ago
I don't think that the corporations and the government would allow a cell phone manufacturer or operating system to be developed that wasn't under their control.
jmyeet•23m ago
I guess it's time for some jingoistic rewriting of history. If you want to sum up America's rise to power it's the slave trade, war and a healthy dose of luck (eg the Louisiana Purchase).

There is a concerted attempt to rewrite history on slavery. You will hear things like "slavery was an economic drain" or "slavery was inefficient" or even "it was technology like the cotton gin that created wealth, not slavery". All of it's nonsense [1].

It's true that industrialization (particularly the railroad ans mass production of steel) was a huge driver in the mid-19th century but what really kicked the US into high gear was war [2].

It's true that material conditions and real wages started stagnating in the 1970s but this piece writes that off as Wall Street shenanigans. This was a political goal to break organized labor. We had McKinsey producing reports to argue that executives were "underpaid" [3]. The post-war era went from a marginal tax rate of 91% and the CEO to median worker ratio went from 21:1 in 1965 to 351:1 in the 2020s [4]. But also the post-war economy shifted from housing being a utility to being a speculative asset. The median house price went from $18,000 to $26,000 between 1953 and 1973 (in nominal terms) [5] and decreased in real terms. And, well, we know what's happened since.

But what's less well-known is the link between money going into housing and decline in manufacturing. That's not an accident. Why invest money and run a factory when sitting on a house produces a 7%+ real returns that are government-protected?

As for the whole "right to repair" bit for tractors and the like, yeah, companies engage in rent-seeking behavior in a capitalist mode of production. Film at 11.

[1]: https://equitablegrowth.org/new-research-shows-slaverys-cent...

[2]: https://laraballard.substack.com/p/how-the-us-became-the-wor...

[3]: https://observer.com/2013/08/the-godfather-of-ceo-megapay-mc...

[4]: https://x.com/RBReich/status/1575516013009018880

[5]: https://dqydj.com/historical-home-prices/

smashini•20m ago
idk, maybe being on an isolated continent really helped
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