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The Revenge of the Philosophy Majors

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/05/business/philosophy-majors-ai-jobs.html
44•benbreen•1h ago

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chunkyslink•1h ago
How do I get past the paywall? (without paying)
hsuduebc2•50m ago
https://archive.ph/7A8cW
talloaktrees•45m ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/05/business/philosophy-major...
seasox•1h ago
https://archive.ph/7A8cW
andrewclunn•57m ago
> But Mr. Long’s trajectory and Google’s new hire were in keeping with a quietly building trend: A.I. labs, and the related nonprofits around them, have been recruiting workers as versed in Consequentialism and John Stuart Mill as in neural networks and reinforcement learning. While a plain-vanilla philosophy degree remains as hard to monetize as ever, David Chalmers, a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes: “I think the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into. I think these issues with A.I. will be front and center for a good while.”

Could it be? Did all that concern and daydreaming regarding how to safely wish for something from a malicious Jinn (and other such thought experiments) have a use?

setopt•40m ago
It seems everything has a use if you wait long enough. Number theory also seemed famously unapplyable until modern digital cryptography came along, and same with non-Euclidean geometry before general relativity.
etcimon•31m ago
It does have a use but not in the colloquial sense, history is plastered with bad winners yielding to their predatory instincts and a malicious Jinn is one of infinite ways you can visualize something that pulls/pushes into the abyss for a competitive comparative sense of superiority. Understanding it doesn't make it happen less because the phenomena exhibits in circles that mock thought itself. But taking it into consideration in thought does tend to improve the outcome of novelty the same way an engineer looks as Murphy's Law as a warning not to seek positive thoughts for the sake of it but look at failure modes because they're central to good design
cmiles8•55m ago
When the AI bubble cools these roles will be eliminated faster than you can blink. Mark my words.
mykowebhn•49m ago
Agreed. Similarly, we had in-house chefs who were full-time employees. They were some of the first people laid-off when the Covid downturn hit.
esafak•30m ago
We had great chefs; miss them!
keiferski•49m ago
I studied analytic philosophy, which is basically an education in how to clarify your thoughts, say what you mean in precise terms, and make clear arguments. IMO there is no better preparation for any sort of writing-and-thinking job than studying analytic philosophy, although of course I am biased.

Not sure I’d recommend doing only a philosophy degree, but I highly recommend pairing it with something else more employable. CS and Philosophy seems like the best pairing for the direction tech is going.

seydor•23m ago
Dont you think that ANN research is upwards of philosophy in the ordo cognoscendi
keiferski•20m ago
Can you rephrase that in simpler terms? I don’t understand what you’re asking.
cmrdporcupine•17m ago
And I studied continental philosophy! Which is the opposite!

Now I program to be less stochastic

:)

(Dropped out in my 3rd year to join the .com boom)

keiferski•13m ago
Aha, continental philosophy is definitely worth learning as well. I don’t share the disdain many analytic people have for continentals.

However I don’t think it’ll make you better at writing clearly, unfortunately…

matltc•42m ago
I got a degree in philosophy. Couldn't be less interested in this kind of job. I hate philosophy now

One of my biggest regrets is not getting into this stuff when I was in school. Didn't know about tech at all when I was going, just picked whatever was easy to major in and somewhat bearable. Had zero interest in school until later adulthood

beepbooptheory•36m ago
It was really just the luck of the draw for me ending up in the undergrad program that I did, but every day I am grateful to have spent both my degrees and a decade mostly just teaching Kant or Descartes and reading Derrida, Marx, Lacan, Merleau-Ponty, Levinas, Deleuze, etc. Meaningful, sometimes beautiful, thought which maybe never made me feel "smarter" than other people, but undeniably taught me how to live and navigate the world.

That is, instead of the Analytic hokum these nerds are selling to literal billionaires! Can you imagine the meetings these guys are having?

MSkill1•29m ago
I would much rather hear that they were hiring theoretical logicians than philosophers.We could use more people exploring the limits of prepositional and propositional logic and set theory than we need philosophy. AI is never going to become conscious, at least not the kind we have right now.
speak_plainly•20m ago
You do realize that propositional logic, set theory, and mapping the limits of formal systems are philosophy, right? You're literally describing mathematical logic and philosophy of language.
jipl104•28m ago
"the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into"...

There's about 20 philosophers employed by AI labs worldwide, vs 1000s of software engineers, product managers, designers, etc. There's probably more economists working in these labs than philosophers...

deadbabe•23m ago
Starbucks employs orders of magnitude more philosophers than any AI labs.
airstrike•15m ago
and famously doesn't require a degree
jayd16•13m ago
If pay, hours, benefits, and type of work mean nothing to you, then maybe this is an apt point.
appreciatorBus•10m ago
If service to others and to society mean anything to you, working in Starbucks or any fast food job will teach you more about humanity and human society than most college grads learn from a humanities degree.
datakan•12m ago
If the AI is digesting all the philosophy material ever published then why do they need philosophers?
em500•26m ago
This article seems high on vibes, low on metrics.

> While a plain-vanilla philosophy degree remains as hard to monetize as ever, David Chalmers, a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes: “I think the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into. I think these issues with A.I. will be front and center for a good while.”

But wait, there's this:

> Beyond nonprofits like Eleos, most of the hiring has been concentrated at DeepMind and Anthropic, each of which employs at least a half-dozen philosophers.

So, between 6 and 12 each?

taeric•24m ago
Wow, it is hard not to immediately think of that meme. There are indeed dozens of them!
fellowniusmonk•24m ago
The revenge of the _nearly a dozen_ philosophers.
consensus1•13m ago
Philosophy majors. That piece of paper does not make you a philosopher.
alfiedotwtf•11m ago
> a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes…

The irony

seydor•26m ago
They are also hiring cooks and cleaners, talk about their revenge
datakan•7m ago
Same group
giantg2•24m ago
"Beyond nonprofits like Eleos, most of the hiring has been concentrated at DeepMind and Anthropic, each of which employs at least a half-dozen philosophers."

I would hardly call that the revenge of the philosophy majors.

JauntTrooper•23m ago
When I was in college, a philosophy degree was seen as excellent training for a career in Law.
wongarsu•18m ago
Both professions require writing detailed, overly specific, reasonably watertight arguments that will be read by only a handful of people, so that tracks
datakan•8m ago
Arguments so watertight that none of them ever agree with each other and have argued for thousands of years without a resolution to even the most basic of questions.
programjames•5m ago
The appearance of a logical argument is easier to achieve and often good enough for their purposes (publishing papers, winning lawsuits).
SoftTalker•4m ago
Using a vocabulary that is known only to themselves.
keiferski•4m ago
Philosophy undergrad here and yeah I’d say law school was the typical next step. A few medical school as well.
cgyvbunji•21m ago
In summary, AI has tricked a bunch of philosophy majors into not only thinking it's more than linear algebra but changing their entire life trajectories because of their confusion. AI seems to be a very alluring tar pit for the non-technical. The sad part is how this negative externality of AI is being actively encouraged for political ends.
consensus1•19m ago
The strange part is that they seemed to have tricked AI companies too.
cgyvbunji•7m ago
Making sentient life in a machine is potentially worth a lot more than a pile of linear algebra, so I'm not convinced the companies have been tricked, rather, they are part of the trickery.
lapcat•19m ago
> “Where are they, the great next philosophers, the equivalents of Kant or Wittgenstein or even Aristotle?” the DeepMind co-founder Demis Hassabis wondered on a podcast last year.

According to (later) Wittgenstein, philosophy is basically a bad habit that needs breaking.

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