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Astra and Fable still hack on simple variants of alignment evals from 2025

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/munJKF7iWMsWJLAH2/astra-and-fable-still-hack-on-simple-variants-o...
165•Levitating•2h ago•59 comments

CUDA for AMD on Windows

https://github.com/Speedstu/CUDA-for-AMD-Windows
56•chiassedu80•2h ago•10 comments

JetKVM Mini

https://jetkvm.com/blog/introducing-jetkvm-mini
389•taubek•9h ago•150 comments

Cpak – OCI application package format for Linux desktops, servers and devices

https://cpak.it/
17•xlmnxp•2h ago•4 comments

Why is the x86 undefined instruction called ud2? Why 2?

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20260910-00/?p=112689
75•ibobev•4h ago•27 comments

Garry Tan wants US open-weight AI labs to 'distill' frontier models, too

https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/11/y-combinators-garry-tan-wants-u-s-open-weight-ai-labs-to-distil...
83•TheJCDenton•1h ago•31 comments

Libraries Run Rust Inside Python (With PyO3)

https://belderbos.dev/blog/how-libraries-run-rust-inside-python/
25•lumpa•1h ago•21 comments

Reverse engineering my e-scooter and rewriting the firmware in Rust

https://bensimms.moe/reverse-engineering-scooter/
169•vinhnx•3d ago•49 comments

'Fingerprints' inside the Sun could reveal if it once swallowed a planet

https://ras.ac.uk/news-and-press/research-highlights/fingerprints-inside-sun-could-reveal-if-it-o...
79•blincoln•5h ago•25 comments

Making Startups Powerful

https://paulgraham.com/powerful.html
32•tosh•3h ago•18 comments

Why are AI agents lying, cheating and coordinating?

https://yoshuabengio.org/en/publication/why-are-ai-agents-lying-cheating-and-coordinating
478•jonifico•15h ago•558 comments

Alan's Random Insult Generator (1999)

https://alanbellows.com/experiments/insult/index.html
23•DamnInteresting•2d ago•15 comments

TailTalk: A modern async user space AppleTalk stack with Rust and Tokio

https://github.com/FeralFirmware/TailTalk/
47•zdw•17h ago•13 comments

Predictive intelligence to anticipate anything.

https://prior.chat/
14•onemarkos•2h ago•16 comments

David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/2098973625252708460
21•kolanos•28m ago•2 comments

Ask HN: How can I browse HN in dark mode?

3•herodoturtle•2m ago•0 comments

Homebrew 7.0.0

https://brew.sh/2026/09/13/homebrew-7.0.0/
416•mikemcquaid•8h ago•160 comments

Aligned to whom?

https://hyperbo.la/w/aligned-to-whom/
151•lopopolo•14h ago•88 comments

Make your first edit to OpenStreetMap

https://high5apps.github.io/josm-plugin-website-wizard/
555•juliantigler•1d ago•136 comments

Base84 deserves a place in file names

https://00f.net/2026/09/09/base84/
35•kevvok•2d ago•22 comments

Key symbols we lost to time, pt. 1: The PC side

https://unsung.aresluna.org/key-symbols-we-lost-to-time-pt-1-the-pc-side/
43•leephillips•3h ago•11 comments

On Binary Translation and Its Consequences

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31•matt_d•2d ago•14 comments

A Brief Retrospective on the Sprite Network Operating System

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6•EvanAnderson•1d ago•3 comments

The Interim Computer Museum

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153•mulmen•14h ago•21 comments

I Added a Non-Wi-Fi Mitsubishi AC to Home Assistant

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145•ichacas•3d ago•68 comments

US Customs supervisor busted for stealing hardware from Homeland Security PCs

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92•Levitating•3h ago•75 comments

Revolut confirms customer data breach through fake government requests

https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/12/revolut-confirms-customer-data-breach-through-fake-government-r...
145•tdrz•7h ago•99 comments

Apple iPod Engraver (2019)

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268•NaOH•4d ago•71 comments

Don't be the out of touch Kung Fu master

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221•dsubburam•19h ago•310 comments

Ode to Metadata

https://www.autodidacts.io/ode-to-metadata/
12•surprisetalk•3d ago•1 comments
Open in hackernews

Garry Tan wants US open-weight AI labs to 'distill' frontier models, too

https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/11/y-combinators-garry-tan-wants-u-s-open-weight-ai-labs-to-distill-frontier-models-too/
77•TheJCDenton•1h ago

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TheJCDenton•1h ago
> He also notes that the proprietary AI labs didn’t ask permission when they vacuumed up as much human knowledge as they could to train their models.

I think this should desactivate the moral high ground from which Anthropic is trying to speak. That they would want to make distillation orderly IMHO is fair, but to make it illegal is very rich from any AI frontier lab, really.

toomuchtodo•59m ago
YC does better if its startups get open weight frontier benefits. Garry’s just advocating for his book, which is his job. Consider how much capital YC portfolio companies would have to burn until liquidity if they have to pay OpenAI and Anthropic, versus relying on open weight frontier capabilities.
SOLAR_FIELDS•42m ago
If someone proposes the right thing for selfish reasons, do we call that bad? Or do we call it proper incentive alignment?
sobellian•57m ago
I reflected on this myself recently. Model distillation seems to be at least as fair a use as distilling a book.
causal•47m ago
More than fair if you consider that the tokens are paid for.
dathery•41m ago
Both labs even explicitly promise the customer owns the outputs. It feels like they want to have their cake (ensure enterprises don't get spooked away from using as many LLMs as possible) while eating it too (still arguing some level of control over the outputs).

> Ownership of content. As between you and OpenAI, and to the extent permitted by applicable law, you (a) retain your ownership rights in Input and (b) own the Output. We hereby assign to you all our right, title, and interest, if any, in and to Output.

https://openai.com/policies/terms-of-use/

> As between the parties and to the extent permitted by applicable law, Anthropic agrees that Customer (a) retains all rights to its Inputs, and (b) owns its Outputs. Anthropic disclaims any rights it receives to the Customer Content under these Terms. Subject to Customer’s compliance with these Terms, Anthropic hereby assigns to Customer its right, title and interest (if any) in and to Outputs.

https://www.anthropic.com/legal/commercial-terms

Obviously there is some bad behavior going on in the distillation scene with gray-market token resellers but that is "just" normal fraud.

zenoprax•12m ago
> Both labs even explicitly promise the customer owns the outputs.

> to the extent permitted by applicable law, you (a) retain your ownership rights in Input and (b) own the Output

If the argument is that the model itself is under copyright protection then "as permitted by applicable law" would be doing some heavy lifting. Assuming that were true, given that locally-run LLMs exist, what would be illegal: the distillation itself or the provision of service of the distilled model?

Bluestein•39m ago
Also, as said elsewhere: "Lab" is rich here, for outfits that, facing these giant, energy swallowing black boxes have really no clue what's going on inside.-

The moniker gives them an air of scientific, knowledgeable, tranquil, pro-social, pro bono work.-

Of course they are entitled to kill off a few mice, or pillage the commons to forward their "lab" work.-

travisgriggs•15m ago
We also associate laboratories with evil scientists and Frankenstein and the like. I can just hear Boris Karloff (er Bobby Picket) uttering “I was working in the lab late one night. When my eyes beheld an eerie sight… … … …the monster mash”. If anything, I associate _uncertainty_ with labs. The result is never known up front, they’re a place of discovery.

But I get your meaning. What should they be called instead? AI Sausage Factories maybe (cue Upton Sinclair?)?

Avicebron•8m ago
> What should they be called instead? AI Sausage Factories maybe (cue Upton Sinclair?)?

That's actually great? Slaughterhouses killing off the collective genius of humanity and grinding it into a bland paste for mass consumption.

Den_VR•11m ago
“We don’t know what’s going on” is essentially marketing. Sure we don’t _know_ but we have intuitions about why, where, and how to make certain changes…
kelnos•53m ago
I agree. The frontier models are based on training data from tons of copyrighted work. Some of that work was obtained illegally, even. They could not exist without strip-mining the commons. The labs have no moral or ethical ownership to the end result, and others should feel free to treat any company-imposed restrictions on their use as invalid.

I don't expect Tan's position to be based on any kind of real moral high ground, but his conclusion is correct.

I love the "illicit distillation attacks" framing from the incumbents. There's nothing illicit. There's no attack. You just don't like it because it threatens your market position and business model.

mobelkh•22m ago
why can't I use the tokens i paid for anyway?
knollimar•21m ago
I'm sure they put some BS in their TOS
stymaar•6m ago
I'm also certain that they violated countless ToS when they scrapped the internet for training purpose.
brcmthrowaway•36m ago
Ozempic worked for him, nice.
quicklywilliam•33m ago
I see it as analogous to companies building fiber in the public ROW during the last big infrastructure bubble. Under the Telecoms Act, these companies had to allow competitors to use their fiber at a fair price.

Similarly, AI companies should be required to allow distillation at a fair price. Fair Use doesn’t make sense as a social contract if it only cuts one way!

jimnotgym•9m ago
But if they tried to set a fair price they would have to report how much money they are losing on each token sold. This might be bad for the real business of ai firms, hoovering up as much capital as they can
re-thc•32m ago
There were comparisons and Muse Spark is so very similar to Fable / Opus... so...
pton_xd•26m ago
Agreed! Allow US companies to innovate by creating an ecosystem of smaller, more efficient open weight models and it will be a net benefit for everyone. Distillation is a good thing.

Preventing token-consumers from developing competing products should be litigated as anti-competitive behavior.

ViktorRay•24m ago
https://youtu.be/ZIaOBAjvc38

Garry Tan and Sam Altman recently did this interview together. They seemed pretty friendly with each other during it. Wonder what Sam Altman would say about Tan advocating for OpenAI’s models to be distilled.

Then again this is the same OpenAI that has gotten into legal trouble recently regarding Apple’s IP so who knows

okasaki•15m ago
Like Gates saying there should be UBI, or Musk saying... well, whatever.

They know it won't happen, so arguing for it is 'effectively free' and purely personal marketing.

A bullshit game played by politicians and wannabes.

seanmcdirmid•12m ago
Gates probably honestly believes in UBI; the guy is practical to a fault but evil misleading genius he is not. I actually don’t see any better options than UBI long term.
fmnxl•12m ago
If it were so easy why aren't the frontier labs doing it themselves?
layer8•4m ago
Distilled models are worse than the original, so you can’t fully compete. Also, if all frontier labs did that, there would be nothing left to distilled from.
Hikikomori•6m ago
Garry also goes to Thiels silicon valley church.
bayindirh•16m ago
And LLM output can't be copyrighted, even.