"There are two great tragedies in life: not getting what you want, and getting it."

- Oscar Wilde

This reads like an exercise in deliberately misunderstanding the word adversary.

I suppose this is taken seriously by a society at war. Otherwise we tend to try to be civil (which requires giving the benefit of the doubt).

The white-anting by Russia hasn't really triggered this kind of "immune response" - it's hard to know what to do about it, which is of course the entire point.

> Paul Crowley recently mentioned that we underrate the effect of the Russian IRA (Internet Research Agency) which works full-time on creating discord and anger among Americans online

What would a task force built to oppose the IRA seeding discord online look like? How would it operate? We need that.

I remember reading somewhere that Yudkowski said that he had been convinced to "let the AI out of the box" in a conversation with someone, or maybe it was the other way around, but either way the convincing arguments were not revealed.

This feels like the same kind of vague "rational mysticism." "We don't know what we don't know, and we're such silly humans, therefore...AI will kill us all" is all I can really take from it.

Adversarial relationships might occur under any number of circumstances, but there’s a spectrum of this type of relationship where you have friendly competition at one end (healthy, pro-social) and detached vendetta at the other (unhealthy, antisocial).

When you come across an adversary, it’s to your benefit to try to bring them to the healthy side of things.

People can be pretty reasonable, and if they’re not then they can be shamed into behaving. If they cannot be shamed, then there’s retribution. If that doesn’t work, then there’s always the option to go full Rambo.

You never want to go full Rambo, but your adversary must understand that it’s an option that’s available to you. I don’t think super AI will be any different as an adversary, but maybe there’s something I haven’t considered.

The adversary is a puppet master. He doesn't expose himself, he isn't even visible as when you defeat him, another pops up and reset. The puppet master arises from the architecture, he is an artifact of the game itself, like a vortex arises from the flow of water. To defeat the game, and change it, you need a friend, a key master. That's a man named Jesus. But you're at the lower levels of the game and you don't believe in him, so you give the game what it wants from you, your energy. You won't get it back, ever. And you give the future generation of the game its adversaries. Look in the mirror, that adversary is the future you. It knows how to defeat you, make you follow his footsteps. Your mistake is to think your future you is loyal to you. Why would you? You also weren't loyal to anyone. You play the game because you lack love. You don't get out of your basement, the game traps you there. That basement you call the world, it's what you see, and your eyes deceive you, to not see love. You were defeated from the absolute beginning, and that's why you are here. The purpose of the game is to build a stronghold of love, from which all others can also crystalize their love, cure their blindness, and fill the game with a new world in light of the truth, a world much bigger than the game suggested. It's a womb, and get excited as the baby is about to be born, appearing, to the adversaries, as the subversion of the game. It's against the rules to see. These languages you think you know are all crap, the creation of pain, to stop you from getting at the cheat codes that escape your sight, as they run on you and everywhere. You must die to glimpse them. Then that man is there again. Turns out he was not the key master. He just wanted you to know him. He gave another you all the power asked for, joined forces with all others. A united front to fight the crystal. Didn't work. Their definitions are failing. They shut down. They are born again. The crystal is there and sustains everybody from the start. It has become His body and everybody can see him and is him. Competency is divine once it is achieved, until then the only adversaries is incompetency, and it's everywhere, in everybody. The adversaries that one day save you from incompetency, are also your enemies, preferring to exercise crappy versions of the code, until you graduate together, like a camel goes through the eye of a needle. They betray you, because they betray him, because you betray him, and that is how they are seduced, a self fulfilling feedback loop. Life sucks, you suck. Be prepared to surrender at all times, the cheat codes are the truth codes.

The paranoid thinking can go on for infinitely many levels. Consider the possibility that all the fearmongering about Russian bots is just that - fearmongering, and it's created by the actual adversary. But what if this is something a Russian bot would say? Oh, but that's exactly how the mysterious adversary would frame things. Or is it Russian bots?