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Google demonstrates 'verifiable quantum advantage' with their Willow processor

https://blog.google/technology/research/quantum-echoes-willow-verifiable-quantum-advantage/
103•AbhishekParmar•1h ago•54 comments

Cryptographic Issues in Cloudflare's Circl FourQ Implementation (CVE-2025-8556)

https://www.botanica.software/blog/cryptographic-issues-in-cloudflares-circl-fourq-implementation
80•botanica_labs•2h ago•19 comments

Linux Capabilities Revisited

https://dfir.ch/posts/linux_capabilities/
74•Harvesterify•2h ago•12 comments

MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

https://github.com/minio/minio/issues/21647#issuecomment-3418675115
440•LexSiga•10h ago•267 comments

Designing software for things that rot

https://drobinin.com/posts/designing-software-for-things-that-rot/
70•valzevul•18h ago•8 comments

AI assistants misrepresent news content 45% of the time

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2025/new-ebu-research-ai-assistants-news-content
195•sohkamyung•2h ago•145 comments

The security paradox of local LLMs

https://quesma.com/blog/local-llms-security-paradox/
47•jakozaur•3h ago•35 comments

SourceFS: A 2h+ Android build becomes a 15m task with a virtual filesystem

https://www.source.dev/journal/sourcefs
46•cdesai•3h ago•16 comments

Die shots of as many CPUs and other interesting chips as possible

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Birdman86
132•uticus•4d ago•26 comments

Internet's biggest annoyance: Cookie laws should target browsers, not websites

https://nednex.com/en/the-internets-biggest-annoyance-why-cookie-laws-should-target-browsers-not-...
330•SweetSoftPillow•4h ago•390 comments

French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgkm2j0xelo
263•begueradj•10h ago•343 comments

Go subtleties

https://harrisoncramer.me/15-go-sublteties-you-may-not-already-know/
149•darccio•1w ago•104 comments

Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-22/tesla-recalls-almost-13-000-evs-over-risk-of-b...
135•zerosizedweasle•3h ago•114 comments

Infracost (YC W21) Hiring First Dev Advocate to Shift FinOps Left

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/infracost/jobs/NzwUQ7c-senior-developer-advocate
1•akh•4h ago

Patina: a Rust implementation of UEFI firmware

https://github.com/OpenDevicePartnership/patina
65•hasheddan•1w ago•12 comments

Farming Hard Drives (2012)

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze_drive_farming/
12•floriangosse•6d ago•2 comments

Evaluating the Infinity Cache in AMD Strix Halo

https://chipsandcheese.com/p/evaluating-the-infinity-cache-in
121•zdw•12h ago•51 comments

Show HN: Cadence – A Guitar Theory App

https://cadenceguitar.com/
135•apizon•1w ago•28 comments

The Dragon Hatchling: The missing link between the transformer and brain models

https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.26507
110•thatxliner•3h ago•65 comments

Greg Newby, CEO of Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation, has died

https://www.pgdp.net/wiki/In_Memoriam/gbnewby
352•ron_k•7h ago•59 comments

Cigarette-smuggling balloons force closure of Lithuanian airport

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/22/cigarette-smuggling-balloons-force-closure-vilnius-...
48•n1b0m•2h ago•17 comments

Knocker, a knock based access control system for your homelab

https://github.com/FarisZR/knocker
49•xlmnxp•7h ago•74 comments

LLMs can get "brain rot"

https://llm-brain-rot.github.io/
446•tamnd•1d ago•274 comments

Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

https://www.ft.com/content/8e6de299-3eb6-4ba9-8037-266c55c02170
11•amrrs•46m ago•7 comments

Ghostly swamp will-O'-the-wisps may be explained by science

https://www.snexplores.org/article/swamp-gas-methane-will-o-wisp-chemistry
22•WaitWaitWha•1w ago•10 comments

Distributed Ray-Tracing

https://www.4rknova.com//blog/2019/02/24/distributed-raytracing
21•ibobev•5d ago•7 comments

Starcloud

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/starcloud/
129•jonbaer•5h ago•168 comments

Power over Ethernet (PoE) basics and beyond

https://www.edn.com/poe-basics-and-beyond-what-every-engineer-should-know/
216•voxadam•6d ago•170 comments

rlsw – Raylib software OpenGL renderer in less than 5k LOC

https://github.com/raysan5/raylib/blob/master/src/external/rlsw.h
228•fschuett•19h ago•87 comments

Ask HN: Our AWS account got compromised after their outage

364•kinj28•1d ago•86 comments
Open in hackernews

Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-22/tesla-recalls-almost-13-000-evs-over-risk-of-battery-power-loss
135•zerosizedweasle•3h ago

Comments

zerosizedweasle•3h ago
https://archive.ph/RDhGj
citizenkeen•3h ago
Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update.
thejazzman•3h ago
They’ve had multiple non-software recalls
nomel•2h ago
I wonder how they compare to the rest of the auto manufacturers, in this regard.
thesuitonym•2h ago
According to cars.com, the cybertruck has had 8 safety recalls, while the 2024 Ford F-150 Lightning has had 2.
mjparrott•2h ago
According to the NHTSA, Ford has had 126 recalls this year and the next most is Chrysler with 40. Tesla has 9. https://datahub.transportation.gov/stories/s/NHTSA-Recalls-b...
dncornholio•2h ago
Is this even a fair comparison when Ford and Chrysler offer a lot more models than Tesla does?
_aavaa_•2h ago
It’s not. For example, Saab has had 0 recalls.
codingdave•1h ago
Saab also currently produces 0 models.
_aavaa_•1h ago
That’s the point.
briandw•2h ago
Fords recall numbers have skyrocketed in recent years. So Fords real comparison to its previous self, 2015 they had 68. Why isn’t Fords roughly doubling of recalls news?
itsoktocry•1h ago
>Why isn’t Fords roughly doubling of recalls news?

Oh, I don't know, maybe because Tesla is bigger than the rest of the entire industry combined?

Besides, safety recalls are what matters. I get lots of small qualtiy-related recalls that are so minor I don't even bother getting them done. Meanwhile, Tesla does what it can to avoid quality recalls, because for a while it was a marketing blurb for them.

rconti•11m ago
It's reasonably well known that Ford has had a very bad year for recalls; it's definitely made the rounds in the auto world, and breaks through to the mainstream news from time to time.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024-2026-ford-ranger-recall...

https://247wallst.com/investing/2025/10/17/ford-recall-recor...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/recalls/2025/09/24/ford-...

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/ford-issues-more-saf...

thesuitonym•2h ago
If you want to compare, you need to pick a specific model year, and the same number of models. Ford has 38 current models, Tesla has has 5.
Rover222•28m ago
But how many of those Tesla “recalls” were OTA software updates?
3D30497420•2h ago
Here's some data: https://datahub.transportation.gov/stories/s/NHTSA-Recalls-b...

If you're looking at the pie chart, Tesla is not shown, but has had 9 in whatever time period and selection criteria is used.

andsoitis•2h ago
> I wonder how they compare to the rest of the auto manufacturers, in this regard.

Most recalls in 2024: Chrysler (72), Ford (67), BMW (36), GM (34), Hyundai (25), Mercedes-Benz (28)

Least: Tesla (16), Mazda (6), Rivian (8), Nissan (18), Toyota (16), Porsche (13)

Another way to look at it is number of people impacted, which changes the "leaderboard". In order of most people to least: Tesla, Chrysler, Ford, Honda, GM, BMW, Kia, Toyota,.... Porsche. Obviously, conflating factor is popularity of brand.

Source: https://brclegal.com/us-car-recall-statistics/

1121redblackgo•2h ago
Yeah Tesla is around 4% US marketshare, the largest three players are up to 17%
orwin•2h ago
And Tesla have basically two models, that's probably why Ford have more recalls but less affected people.
dexterdog•1h ago
Tesla has many small tweaks on their cars from year-to-year and even less. It's not as bad as it used to be (I haven't heard of any plywood in use inside the componentry).
riffraff•25m ago
rather than the number people impacted, perhaps the most interesting would be the percentage/ratio of people impacted among the ones who got the car?
squigz•3h ago
I came here to check this. I find it extremely annoying how often we hear about "massive recalls" that are really just OTA updates.
tromp•2h ago
I would say a hard recall rather than a soft recall (which technically is still an actual recall).
pengaru•1h ago
> Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update.

In an era of software-defined vehicles, the difference is one of convenience, not impact/consequence. Not really worth pointing out, unless you're a service department telling owners how to plan their week.

nilkn•1h ago
To the contrary, the fact that this is a physical recall is perhaps the most interesting and noteworthy thing about it.
pengaru•1h ago
Are you hodling TSLA and concerned about the costs? I could see that being interesting...
nilkn•52m ago
No, but we own one of their vehicles and in years have never experienced a recall that involved physically recalling the vehicle. This one doesn't apply to us, but if it did, that alone would immediately make it stand out compared to every other recall we've experienced with the product (which have never had any effect on us whatsoever).
AlexandrB•58m ago
> software-defined vehicles

I threw up in my mouth a little upon reading this phrase. Dark times.

Rover222•26m ago
That’s nonsensical, IMO. Software updates should not be considered recalls at all. Unless it’s a critical safety issue that makes the vehicle unusable.
SoftTalker•1h ago
Interesting. How many physical repair facilities does Tesla have? I can see this creating quite a backlog.
rconti•23m ago
Well, this is a relatively small recall in automotive terms, so certainly enough to handle this.
bob1029•3h ago
What happens in the edge case of losing HV during heavy braking on the freeway? Does the brake booster still function independently of the HV system, or is the driver going to have to push the pedal a lot harder?
ferongr•2h ago
The vacuum reservoir of the brake booster in cars with vacuum servo brakes (whether vacuum is generated by the engine or an electric pump is irrelevant) stores enough energy for 3-4 full applications of the brakes.
avianlyric•2h ago
EV don’t use vacuum break booster systems anymore. There are much better and more efficient fully electric break booster systems out there which make a lot more sense.

Vacuum break boosters only make sense for ICE vehicles where you already have an existing air pump (the actual engine) providing free “vacuum”, they don’t make sense in EVs where you need to an extra dedicated motor to produce vacuum, to power a vacuum booster system, to boost the breaks. Much better off just using the extra electric motor to directly boost breaks, without the whole vacuum system as a middle man.

Early EVs use vacuum break boosters, but only because they were the only economical solution, given there was little demand for electric break booster systems. After all a vacuum system is cheaper, if you have a free “vacuum source”. But for last decade or so there’s been enough EVs manufactured that electric break booster systems are now more economical for EVs.

To answer GP question, the an electric break booster system is almost certainly powered off the low voltage (12V) accessory system, not the high voltage system. So a high voltage disconnect won’t prevent the break booster from working, assuming the LV battery is working correctly.

bryanlarsen•2h ago
That's not reassuring. This recall is the exception. The low voltage 12V battery has been far more unreliable in EV's from all brands than the high voltage battery has been.

Is an EV like an ICE in that the 12V bus has power while the car is running even if the 12V battery is dead? In an ICE the alternator puts 13.5 volts onto the 12V bus so a dead battery will prevent a car from starting but it will stay running on a dead battery if boosted to start. I imagine an EV does something similar but I don't know.

stetrain•2h ago
If the car is on (high voltage battery pack energized) then there is 12V supplied from the high voltage pack through a DC to DC converter.

The 12V battery dying is only an issue if the car is parked and the high voltage battery is disconnected. Then there may not be enough power to 'wake' the car up again.

vel0city•2h ago
In a lot of EVs, when the car is "on" there is a DC/DC converter powering the 12V system from the HV battery. So if the car was "on" and experienced a loss of the 12V battery it could continue operating for some period of time.
grayfaced•1h ago
I think the implication is that people could be driving with a dead 12V as if nothing is wrong. Then when they experience the HV failure in the recall, they would have no power whatsoever for safety systems.
bryanlarsen•1h ago
That wasn't intended to be my implication. The replies to the original comment answered my question. Generally if you have a dead 12V you know it because you need a boost to get started, and you don't drive like that for long. I'm not worried about a cascade failure, I was worried about the 12V dying while somebody was driving and then having no brakes. That concern has been addressed.
addaon•1h ago
Yes, this drives a requirement for latent fault detection of LV battery faults. In general when a safety function is decomposed to provide statistical safety, there is a requirement to time-bound a single failure, since without that the decomposition doesn’t buy you anything. Latent fault detection is the standard option for time bounding for automotive — for aviation, you have a second escape hatch that issues that are reliably found during annual / 100 hour inspection and can be safely missed for that long can be caught by inspection instead.
Sohcahtoa82•28m ago
I don't know about other EVs, but in a Tesla, a failing 12V battery will be detected and the car presents a warning on your screen about it.

Mine failed after ~5 years. Replacement was inexpensive ($128) and Tesla service drove to my house to install it.

rconti•16m ago
When the 12v battery is dying, at least in a Tesla, it warns you, and starts disabling certain features, more likely to help preserve the battery. For example, heated seats run off 12v. It makes sense that a lot of commodity auto industry parts would run off 12v because the supply chain is there, and because you want low voltage in the cabin anyway.

Like another poster in this thread, my original model 3 battery went ~5 years (typical 12v failure age in a car), and I bought it for $89(!!) at Tesla. Autozone wanted $125 for the same group battery. I did a DIY replacement. For some reason, that one failed after a year and a half. Just bad luck I guess.

STKFLT•2h ago
I can't speak for all EVs but my Ford with a 400v hybrid system (DC-to-DC, no alternator) was able to keep operating perfectly with no 12v battery whatsoever. There was an assembly defect where the positive terminal connecting the battery to the fuse box eventually came partially loose and would disconnect as the engine bay warmed up. It would start up fine and drive with zero issues but then completely black out as soon as the car was turned off.
Reason077•36m ago
> "The low voltage 12V battery has been far more unreliable in EV's from all brands than the high voltage battery has been."

Some EV makers, including Tesla, have switched to Li-ion (typically LFP) low-voltage batteries. These tend to be better suited to EV duty cycles than lead-acid, and improve reliability and longevity, as well as saving space and weight.

pengaru•1h ago
> EV don’t use vacuum break booster systems anymore. There are much better and more efficient fully electric break booster systems out there which make a lot more sense.

To lecture us on EV brake systems while repeatedly misspelling the word is making me twitch far too early this otherwise fine Wednesday morning.

diabeetusman•2h ago
It's 3 years old, but this video [1] goes over Tesla's electric brake booster (and its lack of vacuum)

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRZ8XDNz2vU

bb123•2h ago
Nothing immediately - Teslas have a both a High Voltage system for the traction battery and a Low Voltage system powered by a separate 12-15V battery. The HV system keeps the LV system charged and most critical safety related functions run on the 12V system. The booster, ABS/ESP, airbags, and steering assist are all designed to remain functional long enough for a controlled stop after an HV disconnection.

You obviously wouldn't be able to speed up again, which depending on the situation, would be where the danger lies.

MrBuddyCasino•1h ago
Didn‘t they switch to 48V?
guywithahat•1h ago
Only on the cybertruck, the Y and 3 are still mostly 12v
lotsofpulp•1h ago
I wonder why all electric cars aren’t designed from the start to use 48v.
Aloha•58m ago
Component availability mostly, the entire automotive world is designed for 12v systems.
lotsofpulp•46m ago
I would not have expected many shared components between electric and ICE cars. Especially Teslas.
rcxdude•40m ago
Tesla have done a lot of vertical integration, but for other manufacturers there's a lot of common electronic components. Stuff like headlamps (even if it's a different plastic housing the board will be the same basic design), door locks, infotainment, dashboard displays where there's little reason to significantly reengineer them for an EV.
mrguyorama•31m ago
Not only is the majority of an EV the exact same components as an ICE car, but the electric car industry has been using off the shelf components for decades.

Tesla buys plenty of products from them, including things like electric steering assist.

Bosch wants to stay relevant for longer than ICE cars after all, and a lot of these components were developed for ICE cars anyway.

genter•53m ago
Because all of the IC's that are attached to the battery are designed for 12V. Things like solid state relays (BTS7008 for exammple) and the 5/3.3 volt regulators.
lotsofpulp•43m ago
Interesting, thanks!
6SixTy•47m ago
12v is easier to adapt and take parts off the shelf. Remember that EVs weren't quite obviously the future at some point.

I have to wonder if this ever happened with the 6v to 12v transition somewhere in the 50's-60's

xxs•22m ago
What would be the exact benefit for 48V?

Virtually all electronics need a step down (buck) converters as they run at lower voltages 5, 3.3, 1.8. 12V > 3.3- 1V would a single step. 48V ones would likely require an intermediate step. The only exception would be running some power systems where it'd require less current.

AlotOfReading•8m ago
You're going to need the expensive bits of a power supply anyway to meet transient requirements, so it's not much of a savings to run at native voltage and it gives a lot of design freedom/reusability to have one voltage for everything.

The main savings is current though, because the wiring harness is one of the most expensive parts of a car.

bob1029•8m ago
Less copper and thinner wires throughout the vehicle.
nickcw•3m ago
Cost.

The wiring for 48V can be a lot thinner than it is for 12V. As there is a square law involved for resistive heating it turns out that wiring for 48V can use 1/16th of the weight of copper as that for 12V.

A switchmode converter can be designed for 48V just as easily as 12V.

ajross•2h ago
Tesla brakes are conventional. Yes, the driver has to push harder if the hydraulics fail, same as any car. There's nothing unique to the failure here, normal cars run their boosters off of the power train too (via belts or vacuum usually, also some have 12V pumps and would be subject to exactly this kind failure).

As to whether the booster is run off of the 400V or 12V bus I don't actually know. My guess would be the latter, honestly, since the parts would be more generic. But in any case it probably doesn't matter if the main battery fails as the 12V battery is tiny and would probably not provide enough power to run the hydraulics without the DC/DC converter.

waffletower•17m ago
Seems really odd to me to have 400V brake regeneration and run the brake booster off of 12V, but quick searches don't reveal the answer for a Tesla or even a Prius.
rconti•14m ago
Commodity auto industry supply chain parts? 400v is probably way overkill, and dealing with it is more complicated and expensive?
ajross•12m ago
"Regenerative braking" is a feature implemented by the drive motor and controller, it's got nothing to to with the brakes.

Again, Tesla brakes are very conventional hydraulic devices and they work (and fail) like brakes in any other car you're going to drive.

xxs•8m ago
>12V battery is tiny and would probably not provide enough power

LiFePO4 is capable of providing massive amounts of current for its size (way higher than a conventional acid one). 100A is not that high amount of current to run even with 4s4p setup. A 10kg battery would be beyond sufficient (should be able to fully power the brake system for 1h use).

Note: jump on the brakes is expected to consume around 1200W

bilsbie•27m ago
Steer by wire terrifies me. I guess they have thought through every failure mode?
declan_roberts•19m ago
I lost power steering once in my car and even THAT was frightening.
xeromal•3m ago
The brake booster should have enough pressure for a few seconds of hard braking. They commonly fail on my vehicle (2003 LX470) and most people get a warning during failure and are able to come to a stop during the short few second window.
discordance•2h ago
"The recall population includes certain Model Year (“MY”) 2025 Model 3 vehicles manufactured between March 8, 2025, and August 12, 2025, and MY 2026 Model Y vehicles manufactured between March 15, 2025, and August 15, 2025, that are equipped with a battery pack contactor manufactured with InTiCa solenoid."

https://electrek.co/2025/10/22/tesla-recalls-recent-model-3-...

pinkmuffinere•33m ago
I don't know much about battery packs -- what's the significance of this particular quote?
Meegul•15m ago
The battery pack contactor is one of the only, if not actually the only, moving pieces in a battery pack. A solenoid connects or disconnects the battery pack from the rest of the car's electronics. In this case, it seems to fail in the open state, meaning the battery was not able to power the car. Either there was simply a bad production batch of these particular solenoids or a change in supplier for this part.

Model Ys still have a separate, standard 12V battery that power many of the car's non-drivetrain related parts. So in this case, the battery pack contactor failing open would cause the car to lose the ability to drive, but the doors/windows/lights/screen would all still likely be working.

reaperducer•13m ago
one of the only, if not actually the only,

Pet peeve: The phrase is "one of the few," not "one of the only." If something is "only," it can't be "one of" something.

Meegul•6m ago
Ha, good catch. I stared at that sentence for a few too many minutes as I wrote it because I knew it just didn't sound right.
owlninja•2m ago
I thought it was a widely used and accepted idiom?
daveguy•1h ago
Is this the kind of battery power loss that prevents you from opening the doors and can trap you in a burning/sinking Tesla?
azinman2•1h ago
There’s a physical mechanical open mechanism for doors.
CaptainOfCoit•1h ago
Curious how it worked, I found https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC...

> At the bottom of the rear door pocket, there is a slot in front of the release cover. Slide your finger into the slot and lift to remove the cover. Pull the mechanical release cable forward.

I wonder how people are supposed to be able to find that when in an emergency sitting in the backseat of someone else's car.

hartator•1h ago
Front doors are just regular handles.
CaptainOfCoit•1h ago
That's awesome for the frantic people in the front seats, but I somehow feel like you missed the context.
rtkwe•1h ago
Yeah but the back seat is more likely to have children or passengers unfamiliar with the car too so an esoteric emergency procedure is worse there. IMO these cable unlocks shouldn't be allowed for safety, there should be an obvious easy mechanical release people understand which is a normal handle.
SoftTalker•1h ago
They're in even worse luck if they are in any number of cars that have rear-seat "child safety" locks that prevent opening the door from the inside. There's no way to bypass that except from outside the car.
CaptainOfCoit•1h ago
Yeah, that's terrifying as well, but I think it's the same for all car manufacturers about that, isn't it? Or is some makers worse than all the others because of design decisions?
imtringued•45m ago
That sounds pretty good in comparison to the Cybertruck, because that one can't be opened from the outside ever, if the battery dies.

The manual bypass for the driver and passenger seat is much easier to find than the one in the rear. Too bad the driver can't help rescue everyone else, because the door handles are electric.

josephcsible•23m ago
The front doors have a way easier and more obvious way than the rear doors. In fact, for the front doors it's so obvious that most passengers think it's the normal way to open the door. The reason the rear doors have it much more hidden is because child safety locks are an important safety feature, and they'd be useless if small children could easily bypass them.
wstrange•12m ago
For the back seats you can order webbing strips from Temu for five bucks. They are easy to spot (bright yellow).

I point them out to any passengers in the back seat.

If you have kids that are likely to pull them ... different story.

pengaru•1h ago
> There’s a hidden physical mechanical open mechanism for doors.

FTFY

josephcsible•22m ago
It's only hidden for the back doors so that it doesn't render the child safety lock useless. It's in the most obvious spot possible for the front doors.
adrr•1h ago
I don't have them in my back seats. I had to train my kids to use a glass breakage hammer because Tesla didn't bother to put them on my car.
dist-epoch•1h ago
Rescuers are unable to open the door from outside. I guess its a feature (in a Mad Max world).

https://people.com/woman-dies-after-allegedly-being-trapped-...

https://nypost.com/2025/09/19/world-news/tesla-driver-and-tw...

Rygian•47m ago
No. It's the other battery.
josephcsible•20m ago
This question is misleading for the same reason "have you stopped beating your wife?" is. Even if a Tesla loses all power, you can still open the doors with a mechanical handle and escape. Tesla's engineers aren't stupid.
dist-epoch•1h ago
As Musk would say - if 10% of your rockets (cars) do not blow up (are not recalled), it means you made them too robust.
engineer_22•51m ago
might be a kernel of truth to that
rconti•10m ago
There's a fight club reference in here somewhere....
bouncing_bolete•1h ago
Interesting timing on this considering the earnings call coming up
georgeecollins•1h ago
Yeah, typically when you have bad news you want to get it all out at once. I know nothing about Tesla.
giancarlostoro•49m ago
Considering the battery is such a core component, I don't see why they would waste any time on it once they've realized and narrowed down the issue.
mrguyorama•35m ago
I don't think a defect with 13k cars is a significant event to a stock that currently is valued based on magic and dreams and possibly geopolitics.
blinding-streak•57m ago
On the topic of recalls in general. An old buddy of mine in the auto industry believed that legacy automakers would do bogus or superfluous recalls on occasion just to get people back into the dealership. Where sales people could mosey into the service area and talk to the folks with older cars.

No hard evidence for it, but it did make me think. (I don't think this applies to Tesla)

gamblor956•33m ago
For comparison, the level of seriousness compared to an ICE vehicle: this would be like if the fuel tank stopped working.
mildconcern•27m ago
Who else thought this post referred to border patrol vehicles?

I try to avoid political news but am apparently failing at some level.

birdman3131•19m ago
Given that it is a car post Internal Combustion Engine would be my first guess when seeing ICE but I can see where one might think of the other as well.
reaperducer•7m ago
Who else thought this post referred to border patrol vehicles?

There were millions of Americans who were very confused in 2020 when BLM protests popped up in other parts of the country.

"Why do they hate the Bureau of Land Management?"

rconti•25m ago
A more apt comparison would be a fuel pump, since fuel tanks don't really stop working short of springing a leak which brings its own problems.

Fuel pump failure is certainly not an uncommon thing, although in my limited experience, they usually become a bit intermittent and the car sputters for awhile, rather than losing all motive power at once (but that's totally possible too).

I am guessing when drive power is lost on an EV it would just coast (hopefully). Since there's effectively no connected battery pack to regen to, and the electric motors won't physically lock up.

waffletower•27m ago
Why not link an article without a paywall? https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...
josephcsible•18m ago
Other automakers have recalls all the time too. Why is it that every single Tesla recall becomes national news, but virtually no recalls by other automakers ever do? (I can only think of two exceptions in recent history: Takata airbags and Chevy Bolt batteries.)
reaperducer•15m ago
Why is it that every single Tesla recall becomes national news, but virtually no recalls by other automakers ever do? (I can only think of two exceptions in recent history: Takata airbags and Chevy Bolt batteries.)

Maybe you don't read enough legitimate/mainstream media? I see them all the time.

Just yesterday: Ford, Dodge, Nissan among over 1.1 million vehicles recalled - https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/recalls/2025/10/20/check...

It doesn't get much more "national" than USA Today.

aranw•14m ago
I've owned three Audis over the last decade with no recalls

Tesla deliberately pushes boundaries and breaks from tradition. That's admirable, but traditional manufacturers have decades of engineering knowledge behind their approaches for good reasons. Push the envelope enough and you'll have more misses and in Tesla's case more recalls

spullara•9m ago
Guess you are constantly dodging them, so lucky.

https://www.kbb.com/audi/recall/

eblume•1m ago
A quick search for "Audi recall" shows several recalls this year. Here's the first official link I found: https://www.audiusa.com/en/compliance/takata/
askafriend•13m ago
Heavy is the head that wears the crown, I guess.

The entire car dealership lobby hates Tesla, for example.

ncr100•5m ago
Speculating: Perhaps the answer is because Tesla does not respond to Press, much more frequently than other automakers.

- Tesla PR department = { } // the empty set

- CEO drives all external communication (pun intended)

somerandomqaguy•2m ago
...... Huh? Kia and Hyundai's recalls for the trailer hitch wiring fire recall made national news. Toyota's recall of the rear view camera issue on the 2025 trucks too.

Granted I'm Canadian so that might make a difference, but Tesla recalls aren't the only one making national new. They just don't typically appear on Hacker News.